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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:12 PM
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Obama's Ad During Super Bowl not seen in Florida, not national=corrupt Obama
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:48 PM by Maribelle
Obama's dishonesty deepens with each passing day.

Obama aides said the regionalized purchase of ads was far less expensive.

Twice the lie: obama was not advertising in Florida all the while 6.5 million floridian households were receiving his ads, but he could only buy a natioal package

On edit for clarification: During the Florida primaries Obama said he could not eliminated ads to Florida with his national package. Today he proved he could buy regional packages that eliminated ads in Florida. But that's just lie number one. Lien numbe two was that he wasn't advertising in Florida during the primaries.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:13 PM
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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2. .
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:15 PM by Bread and Circus
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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3. What are you talking about? Fox would not allow national buys for Political campaigns.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:28 PM
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17. Whatever the reason, Obama said he could ONLY buy national
all the while he was saying he wasn't advertising in Florida.


This really is not a difficult concept.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:29 PM
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18. CNN does not have local affiliates. Fox does.
Which means you can buy a local ad buy on fox, but not on CNN.

You're right, its not a difficult concept.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:56 PM
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40. That's not true. I see local ads all the time on CNN.
The biggest one is car dealerships.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:19 PM
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51. Please tell me which part of "affiliate" you don't understand.
I would be happy to give you additional support in understanding the English language, should you need it.

Daaaaang, I got to use that RIGHT back on you!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:23 PM
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52. Too bad, though, you can't follow the thread. You still need help.
Convoluted, perhaps?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:25 PM
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53. I understand perfectly. You can't grasp the concept of what it means to have an affiliate station
and that CNN has no local affiliates. Fox does.

It's not rocket surgery, FFS.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:28 PM
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54. If you read the body of #18 you will see what my post was about regarding CNN.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:29 PM by Maribelle
amen
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:31 PM
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21. No no no. He couldn't buy national ads and black out Florida.
You have it all wrong and assbackwards.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:34 PM
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24. During the Florida primaries Obama said he could only buy national ads
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:35 PM by Maribelle
that is why his ads were reaching 6.5 million households.

Today he proved he could buy regional ads,hence the deceit back during the Florida primaries

He could have purchased regional ads and omit Florida during the Florida primaries, but he said he couldn't.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:36 PM
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27. Are you saying the ban should have outlawed all national ads until after the South Carolina primary?
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:38 PM by dkf
A little restrictive don't you think?

And I got to see the ad in a little state that never gets any Primary race attention.

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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:42 PM
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33. Obama could have purchased a series of regional ads that did not include Florida.
Like he did today.

Obama lied when he said he was not advertising in Florida during the Florida primaries.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:59 PM
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41. I think you are being unreasonable to ask him to spend so much more money
doing piecemeal ads. But maybe that is me.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:06 PM
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46. I don't think its unreasonable to expect him to be honest about his ads in Florida.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:07 PM by Maribelle
But he wasn't honest.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:26 AM
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57. I looked it up.
He would have had to buy 6 regions which only cover 22 states and 28 individual states plus Puerto Rico to get National coverage minus Florida.

I guess you would have loved it if he wasted his money like that. I think it would have been stupid.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:48 PM
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34. Advertising has different options and different prices and laws on political advertising
It is cheaper to buy a national ad on cable stations than regional ads in every state - hence the earlier buy that put the ad in Florida

Super Bowl does not allow political ads on a national buy

Buying them locally/regionally during the Super Bowl is the only way, it is cheaper than the national ads (bud and coke etc) those run almost $100,000 a second
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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4. nope we didn't see it in Fla..thank goodness...eom..
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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5. Um - the FL primary was almost a week ago...
:crazy:
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:36 PM
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26. Obama said back then he couln't buy regional ads
he proved he lied back then with his regional ads today
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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You're dumb.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:14 PM
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6. Fox didn't allow Political Ads nationally for the Super Bowl
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:31 PM
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22. But Obama advertised in Florida with the lame excuse he could only buy nationl packages
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:37 PM by Maribelle
It was a lie back then, and his Super Bowl ads proved it today.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:34 PM
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25. Again, cannot buy national ads and black out Florida.
He needed national exposure, not state by state, ergo national ads. He wanted to black out Florida, but media said no go to that.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:40 PM
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29. Obama lied when he said he didn't advertise in Florida during the primaries.
And all the while he could have purchased a series of regional ads that did not include Florida.

Obama lied twice.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:15 PM
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7. Keep hate alive!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:16 PM
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50. This is about Obama saying 1.5 million registered democrats votes don't count.
This is about how he lied about his advertising in Florida during the Florida primaries, and that the 1.5 million votes don't count because he could not campaign in Florida.

This is terribly serious.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:16 PM
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8. He bought deom local stations.....
Next
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:21 PM
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11. Ummm. I think you need to explain that originally when the
Florida ads got under someone's skin--he Bought a NATIONAL cable package!!!! Get it--National--no pulling out a state here or there. Tonight, during the Super bowl when ad prices are sky HIGH--he ONLY bought local ads in the Super Tuesday Markets--get it? Florida isn't a Super Tuesday state. My state, Wisconsin, isn't either. We didn't see these ads. But I did see the earlier national cable ads.

Do you get it now?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:16 PM
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9. He bought deom local stations.....
Next
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:16 PM
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10. He bought deom local stations.....
Next
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:23 PM
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12. Because he didn't buy a national ad for the Superbowl
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:24 PM
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13. Your disingenous desperation deepens each day.
but par for the course with the hilarys.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:25 PM
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14. Do CNN and MSNBC have local commercials?
If so, I've never seen one.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:39 PM
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28. Yes they do
I am not saying it would have been more expensive or not to buy regional ads instead of national ones but all cable channels have local ads.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:54 PM
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37. CNN and MSNBC are cable stations. Florida cable carriers can target ads down to the neighborhoods
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:18 PM by Maribelle
And yes, they also carry commercials at the city level, and the state level.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:26 PM
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15. What's next, lint on his suit? You people are just sad.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:27 PM
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16. It wasn't national as reported, um, everywhere!
Really now, these posts are absurd. He (and Clinton) bought ads in states that haven't held primaries yet.

DUH.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:32 PM
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23. In South Carolina, we were treated to a car dealer's commercial
Not Barack Obama's ad....
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:53 PM
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36. Exactly.
Why would either of them waste their money in a state that's already voted? They'll need that money later on!!
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:30 PM
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19. cable is different ... do not be a tool
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:30 PM
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20. something for your failure:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 PM
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30. Get real, are you trying to create an issue out of nothing /nt
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:13 PM
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48. I don't happen to believe it is nothing,
That Obama said 1.5 million registered democrats votes don't count because he could not campaign in Florida.

I don't happen to believe it is nothing when he lies to cover his actions over this serious an issue.

Sorry that you do.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:37 PM
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55. If you want to discuss that specific issue, then blame the Democratic party of Florida
they violated the DNC rules

If you want to discuss issues regarding legislation, war, healthcare etc. fine

Obama is NOT responsible because the people in Florida didn't vote, the Democrats leaders in Florida and Michigan did to themselves

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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 PM
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31. The tragedy of PUI
Come back when you're sober, hon, and maybe you'll make some sense.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 PM
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32. oh, do folks in Florida get to vote twice? Two primaries?
does Florida get two primaries since they have had failed elections in 2000,2004 and 2006?

Florida making history again, wow.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:49 PM
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35. Back during the Florida primaries was when Obama lied.
The truth was revealed today.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 PM
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38. the truth was revealed?
Sounds like a bunch of jibberish to me. You saw an ad and you THINK it was national and it doesn't even count anyway because it was in a state that voted a week ago? Yeah uh, I don't know what you're ingesting this evening but I'd stop it whatever it is.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:03 PM
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44. There were no Obama ads in Florida today. There were Obama ads in Florida during the primaries.
But back during the primaries Obama said he could only buy national ads which could not block out Florida. Today he proved he could have purchased regional ads that blocked out Florida.

Additional, he said he was not advertising in Florida back during the Florida primaries because the package was national, all the while his ads reached 6.5 million households in Florida.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 PM
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39. Romney ran his anti-Hillary ad here in California during the Super Bowl. The one where
he says she's never run anything, not even a corner store, and he's run everything, a business, a state, the Oympics, bla bla bla, then says Hillary in the White House would be an "internship" which I took as a thinly veiled reference to Monica Lewinsky. The same ad he runs every day here in California. I was surprised to see it run during the Super Bowl, but I guess it was only run in certain states.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:00 PM
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42. I didn't see the obama ad in Los Angeles... ooohhh nooooez!!! corrupt dino alertsz!
Is this what is has come to?
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:01 PM
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43. You suit your candidate well. nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:06 PM
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45. Oh how childish can you get
Grow the hell up!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:11 PM
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47. Obama lied about his advertising in Florida during the primaries.
Did he do it willfully?


Is he now saying Floridians votes in the primaries don't count because he could not campaign in Florida?



There is nothing childish about this at all.


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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:48 PM
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56. Once again, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW????
I saw the "national" ads Obama bought in Wisconsin. The same cable ads you saw in Florida. He wasn't lying--this was a NATIONAL CABLE BUY! (At the time, I thought they "wasted" in Wisconsin--our primary isn't until Feb. 19th).

I DID NOT see any of the targeted Super Tuesday ads tonight. GET IT? National buy vs. target local market buy?

Please find a legitimate point of contention if you want to diss Barack Obama!

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:16 PM
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49. He's corrupt because you don't understanding how advertising works?
Okay....
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