Obama stunned Hillary

[ProSense]

According to Hillary, Obama has no experience, is dealing in "false hope" and misrepresents her when he counters her distortions. Yet he's giving her a fight for the nomination that I'm certain she and Bill :eyes: weren't expecting. He is attracting thousands of people at every campaign event, has garnered numerous coveted endorsement and has cut or erased her lead in all the major polls.




Yes. We. Can.

[pingzing58]

1. Yes and Bush's "Cowboy - Bring It On - Diplomacy" captivated the Angry White Male and they flocked

to him as well. Like deer into the headlights! Run, people, run, lulled by his voice, they followed him over the cliff.

[joshcryer]

2. It is nearly a total consumerist election.

Hollywood sponsered, MSM pushed. I mean, it's insane.

[avaistheone1]

13. And 90% of Obama supporters have no idea where he stands on the issues.

Go figure. :shrug:

[ginnyinWI]

16. au contraire

I've read The Audacity of Hope cover to cover. And I've perused his extensive pdf files found on his website. And I've listened to his speeches and some Senate hearings where he's spoken. And interviews on cable channels. Is that enough?

[thoughtcrime1984]

29. Great book!

I'm just about done with it myself.

[redqueen]

40. So then you wouldn't be one of the people who are so very shocked

when IndianaJones posts a quote from it?

It's funny seeing some of Obama's less well-informed supporters get so irate, asking for links... :rofl:

[chascarrillo]

3. Keep hate alive!

[Alexander]

4. Oh, they will. They will.

[joshcryer]

7. What hate?

[Bluebear]

9. Anyone who fails to vote Obama is filled with "hate" to some of these folks

[chascarrillo]

20. I'm wrong. It's actually loving to have you point out that I'm being willingly led over the cliff.

I will correct my erring ways. In the meantime, you keep hate alive, you hear?

[Bluebear]

31. Your "keep hate alive" response in every post is amounting to spam, sorry.

[Big Blue Marble]

15. You guys bash Obama over and over.

When you get called on it. It's who me. You are only fooling yourselves about your behaviors.


And you are only fooling yourselves if you think that Obama's campaign is driven by the media.

Pathetic is all I can say.

[Bluebear]

18. Obama's pandering to Christians and throwing gays under the bus is what's pathetic.

That's all I can say.

[chascarrillo]

22. Keep hate alive!

[Bluebear]

25. Yup. Obama's "ex-gay" preachers hate gays and lesbians

They say we neeed to be "saved", yet Obama hired them anyhow.

[Big Blue Marble]

26. Do you have a clue as to what you are babbling about?

Obama has received many endorsements for gay groups.

He has to speak of his faith to not be labeled a muslim.

I am sure you know about the dirty email that calls him a muslim.

he respects the muslim faith and wants to share his Christian faith.

How then is he pandering when he himself is Christian.

Your post is nothing but an attack. See my comment up thread from yours.

[Bluebear]

30. Ah, so anyone who disagrees is "babbling", are they? As far as him "sharing" his Christian faith...

...if that includes him condoning preaching that gays being an abomination as he let happen in South Carolina, he is more fit to be a preacher than President.

[elixir]

34. Hey, you guys started the bashing w/ OP. Good morning.!

[Cant trust em]

23. don't forget despair, anxiety, cynicism

and countless other negative emotions.

[ProSense]

8. How many times must it be pointed out that

Hillary "has always had a good personal relationship with the president"?

[ginnyinWI]

10. using logic like that

We should all vote for the most unappealing candidate? Because that will ensure that he/she is the most capable?

Seems to me JFK was appealing to the masses. And MLK. And Bobby. Gandhi.

My support for Obama is not based on fanaticism. It's a logical decision--he's the most likely to win the votes of non-Democrats and Democrats alike. We need at least a 60% win in order to ensure that it won't be stolen again.

He's also smart and capable, with ideas and imagination and humility.

I don't think Hillary can win it for us. She's another 50%-er, getting only the Dem vote. And we can't risk that happening again.

[pingzing58]

35. Not so sure even Coulter said she'd vote for Hillary over McCain not a word about Obama

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. That's probably true. Would be interesting to get Terry McAuliffe's

take on Obama's campaign.

[Barack_America]

6. Honestly, I think that WE have surprised Hillary.

I think that she underestimated the passion and spirit that people in this country still have, and that someone like Barack could awaken it.

[jackson_dem]

12. Speaking of passion of folks, you missed a great rally today, Kristi,!

20,000 for Obama in little Delaware!

[Barack_America]

27. I had been waiting for your report...

I did catch your thread. I saw the rally on the news as well. It looked fantastic. I didn't believe the 20,000 estimate until I saw the pictures. That's a phenomenal draw on such short notice.

Did you get your book signed, by chance?

If Obama makes it through Super Tuesday, I have the feeling that he will be in Philly a whole lot. Pennsylvania has the second highest delegate count of what's left and, "as Philly goes, so goes Pennsylvania".

[Cosmocat]

39. Obama in Central Pa ...

There is a central PA guy who has been working for Obama in the "T" for almost a year now ... Hill has the "establishment" type Ds here, but the Obama campaign has been building here for a while ...

The Obama guy and I were talking just before Iowa ... I had told him a couple months early I didn't think Obama could get her, but when we talked this time I said he was going win in Iowa ... He told me that PA was going to end up being like Iowa, with the candidates running all around the state ...

I think Hill comes out tommorrow with a very small delegate lead, and Ohio and PA will be HUGE ...

[TheDonkey]

11. "We don't need HOPE we need HELP" Clinton Surrogate

I believe she was talking about the Clinton campaign. ;)

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. Stunned?

Bwahahahahaha! I think not. Just wait. Early voting will wipe away the smugness.

[scheming daemons]

19. So you admit...

...that Hillary's strength is in name recognition among people who voted before they got a chance to learn about the people she was running against

and

Obama's strength is among people who've actually had a chance to hear him speak and get a bead on where he stands on the issues?


I'll agree with that.

[Dogmudgeon]

17. Here is a question you may be able to answer

(I'm taking my partisan hat off for this post. There will be no banter or fighting on my part.)

How many tough issues has Hillary had to answer for?

How many tough issues has Obama had to answer for?

Not just in the debates, but in the press. Especially. Count Bill. Count Snubgate. Or circumscribe it as you wish.

The press is treating Obama with kid gloves. Why is this? I do NOT make the case that they are picking on poor Hillary. Not by a long shot! It's all about money; they care not whether BHO or HRC live or die, they'll just prop up the corpse.

The media want a long, absorbing primary season. It will bring in maximum ad revenue. They have gone easy on Obama and hammered on Hillary so they could drive the race close to 50/50. They will probably work to get Obama a few points over Hillary, then adjust their tactics to keep them see-sawing back and forth all summer. The actual public debates over issues will take place between Tuesday and the convention.

How it all resolves is anybody's guess, but they will do their damnedest to keep the ball in play. This ought to outrage all of us, but nobody has yet picked up on it. The process was very easy to follow in the 2000 and 2004 general elections; this is the first primary season in a long time where they have had two well-matched opponents.

But try to figure out the number of difficult issues each of them have been presented with. Even as a partisan, you will probably find the results interesting.

--p!

[scheming daemons]

21. If your theory is true... then they'd be propping up Romney right now too...

....but they're still glowingly promoting McCain.


So.... your theory is shot.

[Dogmudgeon]

28. The GOP primary isn't the key primary

The idea is to bring in the cash. It's Clinton-v-Obama that draws the biggest interest now.

I think the interest in the GOP primary will be in how McCain assembles a team -- Huckabee as VP, Thompson at Interior, Lott at State, etc. I strongly suspect he is going to run as a team candidate. It has been on the RW radar since last October. If it happens, it will dominate several news cycles and throw both BHO and HRC for a loop.

Usually, the primaries are neglected, but in 2000, the press worked to generate interest in Gore-v-Bradley. It didn't go over too well because Bradley was a weak opponent. In 2004, they came closer with Kerry and Edwards, and Dean was also a good crowd-pleaser.

It is possible, if Obama has huge momentum, or if Hillary has a large number of voters that the polls couldn't reach, for the contest to be settled Tuesday. But it looks extremely unlikely. The race has just the right balance now, and it is highly likely that it will continue to the convention.

They'll do the same thing in the general election. There is always the chance that those damn voters will throw a spanner in the works, but it's been a pretty good system so far.

--p!

[Recursion]

24. Yes. We. Can. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

32. Yes, we can. :)

[Unbowed]

33. There has been a lot of fear-mongering re: Obama v. Experience

IMHO, Obama has equal or better experience. He's actually served more years as an elected official than HRC, unless you count being spouse of an elected official. In all honesty, I think they are BOTH very qualified and both have the combination of experience and know-how to put their ideas into action if elected. My choice is Obama because I like his ideas better than Clinton's.

There is no more false a hope than settling for less than you truly want and hoping it will be enough. Personally, I choose to believe that WE can make a difference and CHOOSE a new direction for our country and our world. It is a new century but we have been going in the wrong direction (backwards) since it began. It isn't a false hope to recognize the need for change and to take the initiative to do something about it. I think Obama will win, but even if he doesn't, he will have shaped the future of our country by waking voices that were previously silent.

"Yes we can," means that it's all up to us. We are the future and we can shape that future.

[ProSense]

36. Excellent comment!

:hi:

[Unbowed]

41. Why thank ya

:hi:

I've been reading all your excellent posts for Obama and sometimes I just have to add my 2 cents.

[propol]

37. you aint seen nothing yet

YES, WE CAN!

[ProSense]

38. I think you're right! n/t