The Clintons Are Out of Money and Not Allowed to Raise Any More Primary $$ from Maxed-Out Big Donors

[Dems Will Win]

HILLARY BROKE?

The Clintons only put up ads in 12 states and one was NY! This is not a good sign for them. The Clintons are not allowed to raise any more than $2300 from any one donor, so all of their big funders can't give them any more money! Obama on the other hand can raise $$ until the cows come home.

Clinton’s problem is that half her money came from donors that already gave the maximum $2,300 and can’t give again for all of 2008.

And that’s why, on February 20, when the January filings become public, not only is she going to be well short of Obama’s announced $32 million take for last month, but she will probably be close to broke, or just plain broke, after spending it all on Tsunami Tuesday.

The Clinton campaign is already showing signs of fiscal trouble. It has TV ads on the air in only twelve states right now. Obama is on the air in 24 (including some of the states that vote on February 9 and 12).

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=423

In that sense the stakes are much higher on Tuesday for Clinton -- who is expected to win overall -- because if undecided voters break to Obama (or if Independent voters flood the Democratic primaries in higher numbers than projected, producing the same result), as The Field noted yesterday, the Clinton organization may find itself needing to rev things up just as its tank runs out of financial gas. Clinton needs a convincing win on Tuesday -- say, a margin of 200 delegates or more -- or her fundraising is going to dry up. A Wednesday morning story about a "narrow victory" or "virtual tie" won't replenish her bank account sufficiently. The PACs and DC lobbyists have already maxed out. New donors won't come forward without major momentum. And she doesn't have a big enough base of small donors to sustain the high "burn rate" of a campaign top-heavy with highly paid consultants and staff.

Many pundits ask "Is Obama running out of time?" That is so the wrong question. The right one is rather Clinton is running out of time -- because she is definitely running out of money. She needs that convincing win on Tuesday like someone stuck deep underwater needs oxygen.

Remember that Obama's biggest single fundraising night last month was the night he lost the New Hampshire primary: he still has money in the bank and will have lots more no matter what happens on Tuesday (I wrote last September that this would be the story of '08 because a candidate with a large base of small donors has the advantage once the usual suspects among influence-seeking donors have all maxed out).he fights Tuesday to a virtual tie, keeping Clinton's delegate lead in striking distance right before eight more states and the District of Columbia vote in the next two weeks (all in states where Obama has the demographic advantage: caucuses in Washington state and Nebraska and a Louisiana primary on the 9th, caucuses in Maine on the 10th, primaries in Virginia, Maryland and Washington DC on the 12th and primaries in Wisconsin and Hawaii on the 19th). Those post Tsunami Tuesday states offer 444 pledged delegates and would likely offset anything but a smashing victory by Clinton this Tuesday, while continuing to run her fundraising operation into the ground heading into some very expensive-to-compete states beyond: Texas and Ohio (along with Vermont and Rhode Island) on March 4, Mississippi on March 10 and Pennsylvania on April 22.

On the other hand, if a South Carolina style surprise repeats on Tsunami Tuesday, it could force Clinton to consider getting out of the race while she still has a political future as a New York Senator.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-giordano/its-clinton-that-is-runn_b_84705.html

PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU ARE AN OBAMA SUPPORTER, WE NEED TO GET THIS NEWS OUT THERE!

[flyarm]

1. this is a silly nonsense post..do you even try to know what you are talking about?

i didn't think so

fly

[Dems Will Win]

3. Answer me this - why only 12 states when one was NY?

[joshcryer]

5. Because 22 states will be displaying a live National Town Hall tonight, and that costed one huge...

...remarkable amount of money to set up.

[Dems Will Win]

8. Only Hillary fans will watch that - it's a huge mistake -- and a last desparate

Hail Mary pass because the Clintons have already shot their wad -- if you'll pardon the expression.

[burgundy floppy hat]

45. no, isn't support of Obama already masturbation?

I mean, if you really gave a shit about something other than yourself, you would have supported Edwards.

And then Clinton.

maybe you're more of a libertarian, the party of the selfish.

[Hutzpa]

98. You fucking idiot, just got here

and you're using such vulgar language, did you obfuscate, I'm sure you did there for a
second, Edwards and Hillary DO NOT have the same policy, since you just grace this forum
I'll allow you a pass, cause you do not have search capabilities.

Why would supporters vote for Hillary whose policy are out of whack, considering
Edwards was the one and only that raised most progressive questions, now I'm not
saying Obama didn't, but Edwards made voters more aware of the issues pertaining
to them.


Before throwing accusation, do some more searching before unleashing on someone
who has been here longer than you have....capeesh!


Oh, and Welcome to DU! :hi:

[mahina]

101. Welcome to DU,

sort of.

[rodeodance]

102. ha ha--a little envious are you??

[KittyWampus]

10. That Obama Superbowl Ad must have cost a boatload. Though I do think the Clinton Show

was a good idea ala Ross Perot.

[chascarrillo]

11. On the Hallmark Channel!

Does any single person here know offhand whether their cable provider carries the Hallmark Channel?

And renting out space on a fourth-tier cable channel is a far cry from primetime advertising on one of the broadcast networks.

[Dems Will Win]

13. She will maybe get 300,000 to watch that channel - it's a joke, they are broke

and all the Clintons could afford was a fourth-tier cable channel infomercial to be able to say they were up in all the Super Tuesday states!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Dogmudgeon]

21. Their getting waht they deserve

They're diryt tricks are'nt paying off.

:rofl:

Wahhh Hilary, Wahhhhhhh Bill.

Gobama!

--p!
Now supporitg the WINNER of the Democrat primarys -- BARACK OBAMA!!!

[papau]

20. Anyone over 40 knows the Hallmark Channel as an oasis of good programing

[tridim]

40. Like "Walker, Texas Ranger"?

That channel SUCKS ass!

But it is popular, probably for the same reason pro wresting is popular.

[Tarheel_Dem]

49. doesn't she already have that demographic locked up? (eom)

[Laurab]

50. I'm over 40, and I sure don't. n/t

[madrchsod]

23. hallmark channel

intelligent white middle class families with high moral values.

[Colobo]

39. White? Only intelligent whites watch that?

What do intelligent blacks watch? What about intelligent Latinos? :sarcasm:

[murbley40]

53. My Direct Tv does and I will be watching....

I am not a Clinton supporter,yet. I supported and still do Biden.

[creeksneakers2]

66. There are only 22 states

Some of them are caucuses. TV advertising isn't the best way to win caucuses. Some are small states. Some are write offs, like Illinois. All campaigns target. The money goes where it will do the most good.

[slick8790]

85. No state is a writeoff with proportional delegate distribution. n/t

[creeksneakers2]

92. Its still possible for somebody to win almost all the delegates

in most of the states. It goes by congressional district.

[slick8790]

104. Possible, yes. Probable, no. n/t

[niceypoo]

12. "the Clintons" arent running

[Dems Will Win]

18. Someone should tell Bill that...

[roguevalley]

58. I wish posts like this would add something other than an insult. If

the poster is wrong, please add why. Plenty of us reading would love to know why you think that the above is wrong.

RV, still voting for Edwards.

[pauldg0]

94. This whole process is a joke.....

folks, please vote for a honest man in John Edwards.

The graft in this democratic process is killing me. I will never vote for either Hillary or Obama.

Vote for Edwards in your primary. He is still on the state ballots I heard.

[unapatriciated]

108. Voting this morning....

for issues that matter to me. Edwards is on my ballot and the only one who has earned my vote.

[angie_love]

112. Fly, this is an article, not a post written by the OP, if you have a problem

take it up with the HuffPost.

[Tesha]

2. You can donate $2300 for the Primary Election and another $2300 for the General Election.

> Clinton’s problem is that half her money came from
> donors that already gave the maximum $2,300 and can’t
> give again for all of 2008.

That's a misleading statement. Each individual can donate
$2300 for the Primary Election and another $2300 for the
General Election.

And there are plenty of other ways that big-time donors
can influence elections including PACs, 527s, and independent
expenditures.

This thread is just more of the typical horseshit that so
often stands in for facts here at DU.

Tesha

[Dems Will Win]

6. I didn't even mention the $2300 for the General because it is irrelevant

if she has no $$ for the primaries left.

[Tesha]

17. See my reply #15 just below us.

But if one were trying to be clear, one would have written
"until the end of the primary season" rather than "until
the end of 2008".

Frankly, I think that was written in such a way as to
be *DELIBERATELY DECEPTIVE*.

Tesha

[Apollo11]

9. Can Hillary spend money from her general election fund during the primaries?

No?

I didn't think so ...

So basically it is unusable money, unless and until she wins the nomination.

[Tesha]

15. Now address the point I made about all the other non-direct money sources.

The main post is ill-informed, misleading bullshit.

(And I don't even *LIKE* Clinton.)

Tesha

[spag68]

97. I agree

and I wish I could be considered broke with 12.5 mil. in a month.

[FogerRox]

95. The whole point of the post is pre general election, in others worlds

the OP is about the primary. Get with the program.

[Tesha]

111. I understand the obfuscation that is being attempted. And I've called bullshit.

I understand the obfuscation that is being attempted.
And I've called bullshit for the reasons that I've cited.

The wholethread is an attempt to mislead people and I
find it pathetic.

Tesha

[William769]

4. well we know of 5 idiots so far.

:rofl:

[golddigger]

7. Yeppers...n/t

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

14. it's true, because Clinton has been reporting General election $

This has been known for some time. In order to pump her numbers up, Clinton has gotten max contributions from a number of people for both the primary and the general election, but she cannot use the money earmarked for the general election in this primary season.

In order to give the illusion that she's competing with Obama financially, she has reported those general election dollars, which are unavailable to her right now.

She started doing that one year ago, when it became apparent that Obama had a lot more contributors than her, and they were giving more for the primary runs.

Her campaign contributions prove she's ready to be president - of the DLC - on day one.

[Bread and Circus]

119. Her campaign contributions prove she's ready to be president - of the DLC - on day one.

LOL!!

[Dogmudgeon]

16. Obama is getting priority from the FEC

"The Clintons are not allowed to raise any more than $2300 from any one donor, so all of their big funders can't give them any more money! Obama on the other hand can raise $$ until the cows come home."

A double standard? Special treatment for Obama? That's what it sounds like.

But, you know, that Hillary is such a liar that the FEC has probably had to restrict her from her dirty tricks the she and Bill are using. It's about time, too! The press has been going easy on them and bashing Obama. It's time things were fair!

Yes -- by all means, tell everyone you can that the government is giving Barack Obama priority treatment. Perhaps you can do a mass-mailing by email. If it becomes a viral meme, it will be able to reach 20 million people by tomorrow and influence the outcome of all the races! It will be the biggest reversal of popularity in history!

Yes We Can!

Gobama!

--p!

[RaleighNCDUer]

121. I'm getting fucking dizzy from the spin.

Half of Clinton's money has come from people that have already donated the $2300 max. The can donate no more. The vast majority of Obama's money has come from people donating small amounts -- $50 to $250. Those donors have the capacity to continute to donate HUGE amounts more because they are nowhere near the individual donor max. Of course, Clinton could still draw in money from small donors - but if she was likely to she already would have. Her base is the corporations and DLC machine, not the grassroots.

[ursi]

19. So, all those middle aged boomers with huge diamond rings on that I saw in Reno

at the Clinton - Joe Wilson speaking engagement are maxed out? What a shame.

[displacedtexan]

22. Hallmark reaches 84 million households.

And there's a writers' strike.

From MediaWeek:

Hallmark will telecast the special paid programming block, Hillary’s Voices Across America: A National Town Hall, live from New York on Monday, Feb. 4. Available across Hallmark’s footprint of 84 million U.S. households, the forum will also stream on HillaryClinton.com.

Neither Hallmark nor the Clinton campaign would confirm the ad spend for the hour, which is usually devoted to the latter half of one of Hallmark’s original two-hour movies.

Following the one-hour Hallmark telecast, the event will continue for another half-hour on Clinton’s official Web site.

Voters in the 22 states holding primaries on Super Tuesday will be able to pose questions to the candidate, in what Clinton is characterizing as “the largest and most interactive town hall in history.” Queries may be submitted to the campaign site; those who wish to be seen as well as heard may post relevant video messages on YouTube.com’s You Choose ‘08 Super Tuesday video platform.

I wouldn't discount this ad buy so quickly.

Nor the news coverage of it tomorrow.

[RoadRage]

25. Translated: Must be rich enough to afford Cable & High Speed Internet to watch this telecast...

Where as the Obama Superbowl Ads just meant you had to have a TV with the basic channels.

I think I like the Obama strategy on this one better.. much more bang for the buck!

[mondo joe]

27. You have to be rich to afford cable now?

Wow.

[RoadRage]

38. I don't know a lot of poor people with Expanded Cable.. and

In my city (Omaha, NE) you have to have Digital Cable, with the "Variety" package to get the Hallmark Channel. That cost is $65 per month (you have to have basic, expanded basic and digital before you can get the Digital Variety package)plus taxes & charges. All in all - about $75 per month to watch the "Hallmark" channel in my area.

Even most of my "weathier" friends only have expanded basic cable - because that covers almost anything you'd really want to watch. The Hallmark Channel is not included in that tier.

http://www.cox.com/omaha/digitalcable/pricing.asp

[mondo joe]

52. So that's it? There's the poor and those with expanded cable?

?

[RoadRage]

54. Yup.. EXACTLY. You twist words better then Clinton!

Seriously.. you and all 300,000 of her already supporters who have the "Hallmark Channel" enjoy her show tonight. I wouldn't be able to watch it even if I wanted to, because I do not have the Hallmark Channel. Nor do many of my friends - and those are the types of people I would think Hillary would WANT to talk to.

I did see Obama talking to me last night though.. and 93,000,000 other people who watched the Superbowl. That was probably a pretty good investment.

[mondo joe]

56. Twisting words? You're the one who described people with cable as "rich enough".

When questioned you turned it into "the poor don't have it".

So I'm asking: Is that really your set of categories? The rich (those who have expanded cable) and the poor?

[unapatriciated]

110. So once again it is divide an conquer mentality.

This type of thinking and rhetoric was used by Reagan. Pitting the middle class against the poor. I don't give a damn which one wins the primary, they seem to be very much the same. What I do care about is the tactics both of them seem to be using. This type of rhetoric only confirms my reasons for casting my vote today for Edwards.

[1corona4u]

29. Stupidbowl, LOL.....

and posisbly people were on a potty break.....I was at a party yesterday, and every time the commercials came on, the rush was to the bathroom, not to see the commercials.

[RoadRage]

34. Wow.. I watch the Superbowl JUST to watch the commercials..

And I hardly think i'm the only one. I suppose if Hillary was running a commercial, you'd hold it a bit longer though, eh?

[Alexander]

72. Anyone who calls it the "Stupidbowl" is way out of touch.

No surprise, given who you support.

[emilyg]

96. I have cable. I'm not rich.

[Dems Will Win]

26. You have to be kidding - Hallmark may be one of 500 channels

that reaches 84 million, but the number that watches any cable channel is in the several hundred thousand at most, except for Billo and some hits. IT will be about 300,000 maybe a little more.

And Hallmark is the OLD PEOPLE'S CHANNEL. She is preaching to her choir, not reaching undecideds.

Big boo-boo.

[displacedtexan]

32. Hallmark is in the top 10 for 2007 (and #4 this January)

From xomba:

HallmarkChannel.com - Top ten among prime time HH rating in 2007

Hallmark Channel, owned and operated by Crown Media Holdings, Inc, is a 24-hour cable network that provides a broad catalogue of high-quality entertainment programming to a national audience of 84 million subscribers. The programme of high level of service is distributed through more than 5300 cable systems and communities as well as direct-to-home satellite across the country. In 2007, Hallmark Channel experienced its highest-ever-rated year in Prime Time and consistently ranked in the top 10 among Prime Time HH ratings during every month of the year.

Nielson info Link for #4 data.

[LVjinx]

91. Blast you and your facts *shakes fist*

Why do you people with your facts always feel the need to point them out?

Anyway, I don't even have Hallmark, and had no problem watching the townhall online. And something like 80% of American households have the internet, so... We'll see.

[displacedtexan]

120. Thanks for the chuckle!

I needed that!

Clinton said all the things I needed to hear last night, including:

No more Blackwater and no-bid contracts

The same healthcare as congress (with millions upon millions in the same plan, cost will be minimal)

Creating infrastructure jobs and green-energy jobs (and tax credits for green consumers)

A rational, humane path to citizenship and border security

All troops out in 2008 (beginning within 60 days of taking office)

Fixing our international image, which has been ruined by BUSH, through (gasp) diplomacy

Enforcing trade agreements (human rights, quality products) before we allow countries like CHINA to ship stuff here

Make America a manufacturing economy again

Making rich people pay their fair share of taxes

Do away with all of those out-sourcing companies' tax benefits

Make employers pay a living wage and deal severely with those who drive down wages by employing fearful non-citizens

... and a lot more.

She used every word and hit every issue important to me.

[RoadRage]

24. Thanks.. time to go give Obama $25 more.. I encourage all other Obama fans to do the same!

I can give him $25 a week for the next year.. and still have only given him $1300 total.

If every supporter gives him that kind of cash every week or every month - he could run TEN Superbowl Ads.

That's the main difference between Obama & Clinton's support.. corporations give a lump sum and then leave. If their candidate falls out.. they wait to see who's next best and then give them a lump sum.

Obama is getting $5 bills mailed to him, at thousands a day. From college kids who'd rather buy beer. THAT is a movement!

[my3boyz]

28. David Shuster

hinted at this this morning. He said moving forward Clinton does not have as much money to spend because she did not raise as much as Obama did in Jan. I think I heard yesterday (not sure what show) that Obama raised 32 million and she raised 10 million in Jan.

[Avalux]

30. Big Donors vs. Small Donors.

The majority of Hillary's supporters gave big at the beginning and now they're capped. Obama continues to bring in small donors as he did in January (one was me for $50). He definitely has the advantage in this area.

[Dems Will Win]

31. If Obama does take CA by 6 as the latest Zogby shows, the Clintons are toast

[Major Hogwash]

81. Or buttered scones, at least.

Man, I'm hungry now. All this talk of toast and scones.

[bluescribbler]

116. Toast? Scones?

Pancakes. I want pancakes. Blueberry pancakes with real Vermont Maple Syrup on top. Okay, I'm willing to settle for Maine or New Hampshire Maple Syrup. But none of that Mrs. Butterworth's crap.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

33. Saw that this morning, I was surprised to hear it.

I had thought Hillary was doing great with raising monies.

[Dems Will Win]

35. In other news, Obama drew record crowds yesterday everywhere, Bill drew 500

[Barack_America]

37. And many in those record crowds will donate and volunteer...

Obama's ability to draw people in is an unparalleled advantage.

Could you please remind me why anyone WOULDN'T want to put this guy up against the Republicans? ;)

[Egnever]

51. Really Bill drew 500?

Where was he?

[creeksneakers2]

67. She raised $13.5 million in January

That's far less than Obama but its far more than is needed to sustain a campaign. At the end of the third week in January, McCain had only raised $7 million.

What the folks at Huffington Post aren't telling us is that on December 31, 2007 Hillary had $38 million in cash on hand while Obama only had $18.6 million.

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/REG/678021467/1036

So adding previous cash to donations for January: Obama has $50.6 million and Hillary has $51.5 million.

Huffington Post offers no evidence that Hillary is broke, just wild speculation. I don't know how much the candidates spent in January but if last year is a guide Hillary is more frugal than Obama.

Huffington Post speculates that Hillary won't be able to raise any more money. No proof is offered. There is nothing preventing new donors from giving to Hillary. Even if she continues at $13.5 million a month that's enough to run a viable campaign.

[BootinUp]

107. Hillary spent less on ads in Iowa, we know that from reports too.

As for spending on the other primaries I haven't seen or can't recall seeing any reports.

[Barack_America]

36. Isn't it beautiful that corporate money only gets you so far...

She can criticize "hope" all she wants, but Obama's ability to inspired hope is going straight to his bank account.

You simply cannot overcome the will of the people!

[creeksneakers2]

68. How do you know that none of Obama's $32 million came from

corporate types? My guess is the reason he received such a spectacular surge is that all the fat cats who bet on Hillary realized she wasn't a sure thing so they covered their asses by giving to Obama too.

[Yael]

41. I am sure that a host of people have already jumped on this

but just in case -- that limit isn't per year, it is er election cycle.

The primaries and the general are two different elections.

[Dems Will Win]

42. Ka-ching!

[elixir]

43. Camelot

[BenDavid]

44. OH my my....last time I seen something like this was right before

New Hampshire and we all know what happened...uh huh this is a bullshit post and its Same Shit
Different Day

[bushisachimp]

46. hillary is the biggest corporate fraud

all her funds come from federal lobbyist donors and PAC money. obama takes no such money because people actually like him and donate to him. 90% of his donations come from small donors, which is less than $50. all her donations come from the very insurance companies that will bleed this country dry

[Cameron27]

48. How about some links to back up your

assertions.

[ErnestoG]

69. She has her nose all the way up their asses.

but that doesn't stop the small, stubborn cadre of her worshippers from overlooking this.

[creeksneakers2]

73. It doesn't all come from lobbyists

For all of 2007 she received $823,000 from lobbyists. She raised a total of $104,000,000. So lobbyists accounted for less than 1% of her donations.

http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=332

I don't know how much came from PACs but I'm looking it up and will edit that in.

PACs make up 1% of her donations.

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008

[bluescribbler]

117. My 82 yo mother is not a corporation

She's a retired teacher. She donated to Hillary, had a sign on her front lawn, and voted for her in the NH primary. Is still as happy as a clam at the way it turned out.

[suston96]

47. Holy batman...all is lost - reaching for my suicide kit.......nt

[melm00se]

55. I would be concerned if i was

HRC.

there are currently 5 candidates for the 2 presidential nominations.

All of them show an increase in Q4 contributions - - except Clinton


Clinton
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary_chart.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00000019

O'Bama
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary_chart.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00009638

Romney
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary_chart.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00000286

McCain
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary_chart.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00006424

Huckabee
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary_chart.asp?cycle=2008&id=N00007539

That 1 data point alone should be a warning sign about her ability to continue.

[hogwyld]

60. Didn't know that O'bama was Irish! n/t

[Mister Ed]

75. Aye, Brock O'bama : ) n/t

[Major Hogwash]

82. Damn your eyes! I was saving that one for St. Paddy's Day!

But, now it doesn't look like Hillary will be around that long.

Ooooops.

[demokatgurrl]

123. Yes, perhaps you would be, but she surely isn't. n/t

[Dems Will Win]

57. K!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

59. I know for a fact that wealthy donors will give them in other people's names

Many of Clinton's contributions have come from relatives, friends, and employees of fatcats. As have Obama's I'm sure.

So this tells me that Clinton must be in a lot of trouble with her wealthy donor base. Trust me, they'd 'find' the money for her if they were so inclined.

[rox63]

113. That's otherwise known as campaign finance fraud, and it's against the law n/t

[HamdenRice]

61. Hillary frontloaded her campaign -- based everything on inevitability!

She is broke because she never expected to fight this campaign as a matter of the choice of the voters. It was all premised on raising a lot of money, locking up the machine endorsements, and presenting herself as the "inevitable" "Clinton Restoration."

In other words, the entire campaign was based on her being "rammed down our throats" whether we wanted her or not.

Once the veneer of inevitability was cracked, her campaign began to crumble. She shot her load and her only feature -- inevitability -- is history.

[guruoo]

62. "WE NEED TO GET THIS NEWS OUT THERE!" ...

[Dems Will Win]

64. How far can that thing sling it anyway?

[guruoo]

65. Don't know....

Seems I've misplaced the instructions

[Dems Will Win]

63. $$

[Summerza]

70. Look at the source: "ruralvotes.org" lol. What the hell is that? n/t

[Stephanie]

71. I said it ages ago! Obama has so many small donors he can tap over and over again!

Hers maxed out in the beginning and she can't go back! Hah hah hah hah hah!

[hayu_lol]

76. Before some of you lose your heads completely...

if Hillary has a deficit funding picture at the moment, she can easily write a personal check to cover the difference.

I wouldn't count her out at this point.

But, some of you will of course. LOL!

[rox63]

114. But it wouldn't look good if she had to do that n/t

[FATCATs]

74. Noted and Recomended

[tishaLA]

77. Sen Obama is spending a TON of money on those huge venues

and for what? It's got to take a lot of money out of his budget. And he's been giving Ted a private jet to fly around in when he's not with Sen Obama. I worry that he's going to run out.

[ErnestoG]

84. And getting amazing turnouts.

But I think you know that, in your heart of hearts.

[rox63]

115. What? You think Bill Clinton is flying coach?

I doubt it.

[Auntie Bush]

78. Is that news or propaganda or personal opinion?

Inquiring minds want to know. :shrg:

[Mister Ed]

79. "force Clinton...out of the race while she still has a political future as a New York Senator" ?

So, um...do they bar you from the Senate if your run for the presidential nomination doesn't succeed?

Just wondering...

[FogerRox]

100. A protracted Losing 2008 primary fight might play strategically, in a 2012 NY DEM Senate primary.

[Major Hogwash]

80. Can't they get any more free advertising from Keith, Chris, or Dan?

For 6 months last year they told us she was the Queen of Inevitability.

Oh, well, beats Queen For A Day, I suppose.


LoL

[Auntie Bush]

83. Thanks for the reminder! I'll go make a donation now...Didn't know she could use it.

[ElizabethDC]

86. Ditto! This Hillary contributor isn't maxed out yet!

but I'm willing to go as far as I can in that direction.

[Auntie Bush]

87. I haven't even started! I'm so broke I felt I needed it more than she did.

But I'll sure donate now as much as I can possibly scrape up until our candidate is chosen. I only other candidate I've ever donated to is Wes Clark.

[LVjinx]

90. Just did too!

Somehow I don't think the threads author realized we might do that upon hearing this rumor.

[Tarc]

88. And why do you need to "get the news out there" ?

Of what benefit would this be to Obama and his drive to whip up support? Do you think voters base their decisions on fundraising minutiae?

[LVjinx]

89. Thanks for the heads up

I just sent her a donation after watching her townhall.

[McCamy Taylor]

93. How come if Obama comes in second he is the winner,but when Edwards was 2nd he was the loser?

I do not buy this spin. It sounds like bs to me.

[Hutzpa]

99. Ask Jeeves?

Bwahahaha!


:P :rofl:

[GoldieAZ49]

103. JANUARY DONATIONS FOR H & O CAMPAIGNS

O raised $32 million in January alone

H would only disclosed they raised over $10 million

O Super Bowl ads cost $2.5 million a very good price!!!

Not sure the price of an hour on Hallmark

[MGKrebs]

105. Clinton had $20 million more than Obama as of Dec. 31.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp?cycle=2008

[BootinUp]

106. Not likely.

the fact is they decided to spend a little more frugally since it was becoming apparent the race was probably not over on Feb 6. But if it helps your mood, go for it.

[BrightKnight]

109. Bullshit! - n/t

[demokatgurrl]

118. I don't buy this for a minute.

There are many big Clinton donors left. I don't know who is pushing this but I think it's total B.S.

[GoldieAZ49]

122. The money dries up if she doesn't win big today

She can thank Bill for pissing off Teddy, his bringing attention to Obama was the turning point in such a short election cycle

Once they hear him, she is history