ATTN: Clinton has another conveniently timed 'emotional' moment!!!

[mckeown1128]

My colleague Chris Frates emails from Hillary's appearance at the Yale Child Study Center, a small-scale event that reminded reporters a bit of the diner in Portsmouth where she got emotional.

"Welcome home dear friend, we are so proud of you," an old New Haven ally, Penn Rhodeen, told Clinton.

"I said I would not tear up. Already we're not on that path," Clinton replied.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Stiff_upper_lip.html#comments


Let's compare:

NH: She became emotional the day before an election/The polls had showed momentum with her opponent

STues: She becomes emotional the day before an election/The polls are showing momentum with her opponent

[Debi]

1. Ugh

Her emotional moments are giving strong women a bad name x(

[Medusa]

2. Man those internal polls must be bad.

:eyes:

Maybe she ought to change her official campaign song to Jackson Browne's "Here Come Those Tears Again"?

[TexasObserver]

3. Vote Hillary, because you don't want to make her cry!

catchy slogan

maybe she could get Sam Scalito's wife to sit in the background and whimper, too

[SoFlaJet]

7. LOL

pretty good one T.O. hmmm...T.O. do you happen to play for any football teams down there in The Lone Star State?

[TexasObserver]

29. No, don't even watch the game.

Love the superbowl because it means the end of the football season.

[Renew Deal]

27. The Kleenex president

:cry:

[KittyWampus]

33. LOL!

[Big Blue Marble]

4. All I can say is that she is under intense pressure.

All the candidates are. Please have compassion.

[mckeown1128]

18. I had compassion the first time.

The second time I am suspicious. Also, the campaign pressure is going to be nothing compared the pressure of running and protecting the country.

[Colobo]

31. C'mon...

She's trying to pull the sympathy card once again.

[sfam]

51. So Hillary cries when under intense pressure? Your post is NOT a nice one to Hillary

Give me a break. This is a normal sexist response. That Hillary buys into this by crying is worse. But your response doesn't exactly make Hillary look good.

If you're going to defend her, use the "This was an old friend making a very emotional intro" line that real Hillary supporters are. The "she cries under pressure" thing really should be removed from our discussion.

And yes, I do support Obama.

[Big Blue Marble]

57. Sexist, that is a laugh.

I am the opposite of a sexist. I know that she is under pressure. And as a woman, I identify with her situation right now.
I am not attempting to maker her look good or bad. I do not believe she was doing this to get sympathy. Call me naive,
but I think she is for real this time.

As a Obama supporter, I am glad she is under pressure, but I can emphasize with with her stress and exhaustion.

I find your post insulting, revolting and confusing.

[nightrider767]

5. It's all the rage now..

A New England football player teared up during an interview after last nights game.

Why not? We're humans, might as well cry while the cry window of opportunity is open.

It'll probably close by years end.

[papau]

6. Obama never stops playing his race card/I am a victim of Hillary card - now he fears her possible

showing of emotion - what a man among men

[goldcanyonaz]

16. Ain't that the truth. No one plays the victim card better than Obama.

[mckeown1128]

20. You are right...

he tricked her into crying.

[papau]

25. She did not cry - watch the video

[hisownpetard]

54. Link, please?

[jasmine621]

8. This was a "small" meeting with supporters. Not a limelight event. nt

[mckeown1128]

23. Just like last time...

She just so happened to be talking to a small group the first time she cried.

[petersjo02]

9. Dear God

Give the woman a break. Whatever else she is, she's a human being and entitled to feel emotion. Bush cries all the time, and people seem to cheer him on and think he's such a wonderful, caring person because of it. Him, it's fake. He has never cared about anything or anyone beyond the end of his own red nose. Hillary's emotion is real, regardless of how much you disapprove of her having any. Button it.

[mckeown1128]

36. I am not denying that she has"real emotions"...

My problem is with the timing of her emotions. A bit too coincidental. And I told myself before I posted that people couldn't possibly be stupid enough to fall for it again. I thought to myself that anyone with a brain would see the remarkable resemblance between the two situations. Ohh well....

[geek tragedy]

10. Fake as a $3 Bill. n/t

[NJSecularist]

11. Grow up, Hillary

Sobbing isn't going to win your brownie points like it did in New Hampshire.

Campaigning has had an effect on Obama too, I don't see him crying.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. One of several ugly posts on this thread

If you can't see why yourself I can't help you with that.

[NJSecularist]

30. Everybody who is running a campaign is feeling emotionally distraught right now

Can you imagine how Romney feels? Do you think he doesn't see the writing on the wall? I don't see him crying.

I know Hillary is emotional, but this just strikes me, AGAIN, as a calculated political move to gain sympathy points.

[Tom Rinaldo]

41. A couple of short points

I reacted most to your use of the word sobbing. Forget about the political meanings found in word associations; your use of "sobbing" is literally untrue. Neither here, nor in New Hampshire, was a single tear shed. A little emotion, yes. Sobbing, no. Truth should count for something.

Second, this minor flash of emotion was not in response to any ugliness thrown at Hillary. It did not come because too much was being asked of her for her to handle. It was not the cry of a wounded woman, or of a weak person. It was in response to a quiet moment of tenderness shown toward Hillary by an old friend in a small setting.

Tough soldiers don't weep in battle, they tear up later when a mother whose child's life they protected thanks them in public for saving her daughter. Don't equate emotion with weakness. That is what upsets me most about the tone of some of the posts in this thread. Equate it with humanity.

There is no woman in America who least needs to prove to any of us that she is strong enough to take anything thrown at her than Hillary Clinton. If you want to read more about my feelings about that read this thread if you have not already:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4360963

I don't share your cynisism about a political ploy here, but that was not the part that I objected to.

[mckeown1128]

44. You don't get it.

They sympathy she is looking for is not for the tears. She wants the media to pick up the story so that when the media question(like I have) the timing of the tears, everyone will feel bad for her getting "picked on" by the media. I see this as an attempt to repeat the NH situation.

[Tom Rinaldo]

50. No, you didn't get it.

In my reply I noted that though I don't share the cynical view you repeat here, that was not my issue with the poster, and I wrote what my issues were. You ignore all of that. IF Clinton wins any sympathy votes now, very frew will be from that monment in New Hven directly. It will be from watching the the bitter trivialization of human emotion - emotion that almost any non partisan person can relate to in an encounter of the sort Hillary just experienced, being played out by a howling mob of her critics who laugh and/or scream at why she shed that tear. Don't say I didn't warn you.

[SoFlaJet]

55. yea good point 7-7

If ANYONE has a right to cry it's Romney-he has spent 35 million of his own money on a campaign that he probably should have won if not for some yokel from Arkansas teaming up with McCain to beat him-and the press who don't realize that of all the GOP candidates that he really IS actually the closest to Reagan

[DemGa]

12. Pffftt....nt

[rodeodance]

13. Sen. Clinton has a long record of working for kids. Your post is disgusting!

[electron_blue]

14. Sorry! Bush teared up right after Clinton did and it did squat for his polls.

It's b.s. that Hillary's doing well bcs she has a heartfelt moment in public.

[Egnever]

15. Doesn't surprise me

She looked beat on stephanopolis's show yesterday. She is at the end of her rope. She feels the tide turning and it cant be fun to face. I don't really think this is a staged thing I think the woman see's her dream fading before her eyes and is bone tired. I would be crying if I was her.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. What are you, 12?

[mckeown1128]

26. You have to admit the timing and situation is an

exact match to the first time she became "emotional".

[Bluebear]

37. Somehow if Obama wasn't staring at us from your avatar it would be more convincing

[mckeown1128]

47. Why? Just because I am not voting for her doesn't mean..

that what I posted isn't true. I am just pointing out the similar timing and situation in the polls between the two "emotional moments."

[Bluerthanblue]

19. Hillary has a very HUMAN response to a moving and

meaningful comment-

I find nothing wrong with this- If people can't let the candidates be human, without reading all kinds of motives into it, we need to do some personal housecleaning.

I don't fault Hillary at all for not hiding her emotions behind a mask- I applaud her for it.

I do feel really frustrated by those who would like to twist this into an issue.


peace~

[mckeown1128]

32. She may very well had a "human response"...

but I find the timing and situation in the polls a little to identical to Jan 7th New Hampshire "moment"

Is she going to claim that she "found her voice" again?!

[Bluerthanblue]

42. if her campaign uses this then speak to that, but

how about we cut the person- "Hillary"- some slack?

We are all in this struggle together no?

peace~

[mckeown1128]

45. Her campaign doesn't have to "use"... they are probably..

betting on the media to pick it up. Just like the media did last time. Then she gets sympathy not for the tears but for the media questioning the tears.

[Bluerthanblue]

48. Obama doesn't need this kind of

"support"-

I'm all for him- I believe he is without doubt the BEST candidate, and is going to be an excellent president.

This kind of petty crap doesn't do any of us any good.

We need to step up out of the gutter, and move forward with the real important and worthy issues.

It starts with each one of us, as individuals.

peace~

[DangerDave921]

39. OK but

Have you seen HRC cry at all these past 15 years? Did she cry during the whole Monica/Impeachment fiasco? Did she cry during her stressful senate runs?

If there's one thing about HRC, she's a tough lady. I have a hard time seeing that she's suddenly so emotional and wearing her heart on her sleeve nowadays.

[newmajority]

21. How predictable. Hillary.... even her tears are scripted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ

[JohnnyLib2]

24. I missed that, but watched part of her later remarks at Yale Child

Study Center. She described her involvement there in 1970, 71, as a law student and as a young attorney. My thought, without knowledge of the tearing up, was---there it is-- part of the experience she rightly claims.

[Araxen]

28. Well it's official now

Hillary Clinton is a crybaby if this is true. How can anyone vote for somebody that will cry all the time when things get rough? I only hope this isn't true and she hasn't cried again.

[suston96]

34. Thanks for posting that. The last one she had really cost her votes....nt

[Bullet1987]

35. I don't care if I get heat from posting this...

anybody who buys this crying crap is a complete sucker! I don't think it'll work this time Clinton...faker.

[mckeown1128]

38. If the media picks it up it will work...

see posts above from people who think this is a genuine in the moment event. :banghead:

People are and will buy into this...again.

[suston96]

40. LMAO! It really works - it drives them to suicidal frenzy....

[Dems Will Win]

43. Sorry there's no video tape here, so the mere reporting of this will prompt

fooled me once, etc..

[Shine]

46. I'm sorry, but this criticism of her for tearing up is bullshit

BFD!! I'm sure the media wouldn't be making such a big deal about it if she were a man.

:grr:

[mckeown1128]

49. You are probably right... and I believe she knows that and

that she is counting on the media picking it up so she can get "sympathy" from women against the media again.

[Dogmudgeon]

52. Hillary's timing, or the press' timing?

"Hillary cries on cue like a little baby, but Obama is secure enough in his manhood to weep authentic tears." Got it.

The press can manipulate any situation it wants ... so it does.

She could have misted up on Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday, but if it isn't covered, it doesn't happen. Right?

Meanwhile, Obama emotionalizes every time he makes a speech, but that's his "authentic voice".

Good lord, people are so gullible!

--p!

[Straight Shooter]

53. I teared up yesterday when my friend told me she found out her dog has cancer.

I almost never cry. Never. But there are certain things that really get to me, and one thing that really gets to me is my emotional connection with my friends.

I would be willing to bet that many who are bashing Hillary for expressing herself as full human being are the same people who weep like toddlers at touchy-feely movies, a false manipulation of their emotions, and yet you can't grant someone the simple dignity of being a little overwhelmed by a friend's sincere welcome.

Has it ever occurred to you mockers that Hillary may have more than one "emotional moment," but the media grabs the one that is closest to an election in order to make her look bad?

And another thing: the derisive term, "emotional moment," you make it sound like an ad for a PMS remedy. How chivalrous of you, how absolutely reflective of your candidate's character. He sure brings out the best in you, just like bush brings out the best in his supporters.


ETA: Looks like pidwigeon was expressing my thoughts in her/his post while I was still writing my post. GMTA.

[woolldog]

56. Right on cue....

She reinforces all the negative stereotypes of sexists who think women aren't tough enough to handle the Presidency. And she's gotten where she is mainly by riding the coattails of her husband.

Why do feminists like her again?