Barack Obama has "united" his supporters against President Clinton, Paul Krugman, and Joe Wilson

[Proud2BAmurkin]

And against Universal Health Care too.

The cult of personality is amazing to watch.

:rofl:

[bowens43]

1. Nonsnse.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

2. Today's cult of personality special: "Joe Wilson's 15 minutes are up"

:rofl:

[sidwill]

3. Hate much?

nm

[Proud2BAmurkin]

4. "Krugman is a shill"

[mckeown1128]

5. Does not compute...

I am NOT against those three or universal healthcare...yet...yet...I am....voting for Obama...weird....that realty differs from what you posted. Because if you posted this...it must....be true?!

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. Krugman, the leading progressive economist, said Obama = no health care reform

Obamaniac response: fuck Krugman!

[Occam Bandage]

7. I am fully in favor of tax-supported, single-payer healthcare. I think mandates for private

insurance are unenforceable, will be a poison pill in Congress, and if passed will create more problems than they will solve.

Joe Wilson's a fine guy. Paul Krugman is a good writer and a good ally of liberalism, though I think he's being a wee bit partisan. President Clinton is a very mixed bag, but his eight years were terrific.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

8. Obama has taken single payer off the table along with 15 million Americans

[Occam Bandage]

11. So has Clinton, and so did Edwards. We're not discussing single-payer.

We're discussing the feasibility of mandates for private insurance.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

13. Step 1 universal coverage. Step 1 for Obama, conceding the issue

[Occam Bandage]

15. That isn't a step towards single-payer at all. The step towards single payer

is expansion of federal programs, which Hillary and Obama do identically. Both Clinton and Obama are currently conceding single-payer. Universality of private coverage is not a step towards government-financed coverage.

[TomClash]

14. So has HIllary

Read her plan - even Ira Magaziner's plan was never single payer, so what is your point?

[BlackVelvet04]

28. Obama has MANDATES FOR PARENTS.....

is that because he doesn't REALLY believe people will buy insurance if they can afford it or does he just think parents are more irresponsible than everyone else? I vote he doesn't' really believe his own bullshit and the lack of mandates for everyone is just more pandering to the young, who are the most likely to for go insurance.

[Occam Bandage]

30. Those are much easier to enforce, as children already must present

proof of immunization to their schools; proof of insurance would be no different.

[BlackVelvet04]

31. Why the need to enforce....

since he believes people will do the right thing if it is affordable?

[Occam Bandage]

32. Why would a mandate be enforced? I don't know, sugarplum.

[BlackVelvet04]

37. why the mandate, fartblossom? You never answered that.....

you started talking about enforcement. WHY A MANDATE IF HE BELIEVES THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE DON'T BUY INSURANCE IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT? Can you answer that question? Does he think that's only true of people who don't have children? Are parents more irresponsible than non-parents?

[Occam Bandage]

42. I started talking about enforcement because you asked about enforcement. Don't ask questions

if you don't want them answered.

He never claimed that was the only reason he didn't want a mandate. A bigger problem is that a mandate is unenforceable. The "they only don't have it because they can't afford it" line is deflecting claims that he will leave X million uninsured, by pointing out that most uninsured would buy insurance if it were cheaper.

[MoJoWorkin]

9. The Clintons had their chance to do health care---look what we got.

They are their own worst enemy. I voted and worked for Bill both times and have apologized for them way too long---and now I am DONE with them.

I started in Democratic politics at age 15, and have been a Democratic ward committee woman. I am not into cults. I am a 60 year old white woman that wants a brighter future for my daughters and granddaughter, and that future will be infinitely better with Barack and Michelle Obama in the White House.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

10. There ya go. Give up and blame the Clintons who tried to deal with the COMING crisis

Now it's a crisis and ready to happen, but Obama has given it up.

[still_one]

12. I couldn't agree with you more. /nt

[LiberalHeart]

16. LOL ... you're not into cults but you're voiting for Obama?

[Occam Bandage]

17. Believe it or not, real Obama supporters are not actually the strawmen Clinton supporters

like to bash.

[cali]

19. I'm voting for Obama. Who are you "voiting" for, genius?

[flyarm]

29. we got Edwards plan..your point is..Obama will let you opt out and game the system and we will

get stuck paying for your sorry ass if you get sick or injured?

yeah ..you need to stay in school, see we adults understand the system, something you haven't gotten a grasp of yet!!

i don't want to pay for your sorry ass, because you don't want to pay into the system..get that bubba?

health care is not free..darlin..not here and not anywhere in the world..unless you have no means to care for yourself..

if you do not want universal health care..then so be it..lets scrap the idea..but some paying... while others opt out ...to only come back when they need it or are desperate for helath care.. ...doesn't work..and i will be damned if i will pay for you!! got me??

fly

[cali]

18. What bullshit. There's a thread running where one Obama supporter after another

states that they respect and like both Krugman and Wilson. I'm one of them. Furthermore, muckmerk, I've said repeatedly that I prefer Clinton's health plan to Obama's.

YOU, Muckymerk, are the cultist. You're slavishly devoted to your candidate in a way that's very noticable. YOU are the one who stated that they won't vote for Obama.

You are the brainwashed little freak.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

20. I won't vote for a PUKE but Obama concerns me on national security and ceded health care

so there's no reason for me to vote for him.

[cali]

22. hypocritical brainwashed cultist bullshit ignorant ugly hate n/t

[LiberalHeart]

24. You and Obama sure do have a knack for using language effectively.

[Mz Pip]

21. Sorry

Your statement lacks logic. Big surprise. Supporting Obama is not a statement against, Bill Clinton, Krugman and Wilson. These are not mutally inclusive positions.

:rofl:

Try again.

I'm sure you will.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Bluebear]

23. Your post lacks awareness.

Look at the Joe Wilson thread from today, in which Obama Nation denigrates him for speaking out against Obama.

[Mz Pip]

25. I speak for myself

Do not presume to lump me in with with them.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Didereaux]

26. k/r'd

[flyarm]

27. i find it rather revolting..and i saw it up front in Iowa and South Carolina..i tried to describe it

to others..and to think it all began with a few free ipods..


i am just waiting for the "blue" Kool aide to come out..

wonder what happens to these kids if Obama is indicted in the Rezko case..many of us worried about this with the Edwards camp.


this is rather frightening to me..to be honest..this guy is getting like Little lord pissy pants was with his cult..even if he screwed a pink elephant on the front lawn of the white house in front of millions of people ..they would try to convince everyone they imagined it..or it wasn't soooooooo bad..


shaking head here...

now all those who we supported and supported us with truth are the bad guys to the OBAMA ipod kids..

me thinks they need a little history lesson..

i hope none of them drop out of school any time soon..or is no child left behind creating them?? i wonder??

fly

[kurth]

44. His shit doesn't smell

In fact it smells like roses and has amazing curative powers, according to his followers.

[The_Casual_Observer]

33. But they think they are going to get republicans to vote for him instead

so they don't care.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

34. he also united us against Hillary and John Edwards

how dare he!

[jacksonian]

35. i agree. I'm really having a disconnect with his campaign

I don not understand why a progressive candidate really feels the need to blunt his stance on health care? This plan of his is weak, and I don't get it. It doesn't really control costs, it leaves people out, and doesn't move us toward anything more workable.

Look, I live in Chicago. I stay politically aware, I know people who know people who know Obama personally. They all think he's a truely wonderful, sharp, intelligent progressive man.

But he seems in this campaign to be staking himself out to the right of Hillary. But I thought the big argument with Hillary was that she was too far right already?

I really, really don't get it, and have a sinking feeling that despite poll surges, the man is losing his way.

[Unsane]

36. America wants realistic solutions only Senator Obama can provide.

Gobama '08

[Az_lefty]

38. a Hillary nomination will unite people against the Democratic Party!

[OzarkDem]

39. He's destroying his own health care plan, too

Bizarre. He apparently doesn't even support his own plan.

[wyldwolf]

40. ..and united them with, it seem, Republicans

It's kind of surreal on DU watching them use rightwing talking points and quoting from rightwing souces in support of a candidate who wants to play nice with the rightwing.

[Lerkfish]

41. why is this poster still posting here?

if there was a stellar example of trolling and flamebait behaviour, this is it.

[mojowork_n]

43. I asked myself (and modRaTrrr) the same question, once. Slipping by amidst...

...the rushing torrent of all the other, broad-brush, curt, brusque, no-thought, waste-of-emotional-energy, Your-Candidate-is-a-Loser posts?

Edit PS: Whether this guy's legitimate or not, the scariest candidate for Republicans *is* Barack Hussein Obama. The only Democrat running whose grandmother still lives in rural Kenya. She has his framed Harvard diploma on her wall. As an immigrant boy myself, I *love* those two small details.

[ErnestoG]

45. they'll be reporting in to FreeRepublic after the nom.

[Azathoth]

46. Joe Wilson is an asshole, and Krugman has been gunning for Obama for months

And sadly, Bill was the one who decided to transform himself from a respected party leader and statesman into a petty political hatchet man.