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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:30 AM
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If Obama was a crack dealer, he'd be unequivocally Black
But since he's a presidential nominee, you've got a few people trying to emphasize his half-White heritage. Truth is that in America, racism has never been anything more than lookism and political expediency (i.e. the invented "races" of Hispanics and Muslims). Another truth is that many Blacks in America have some White heritage, so where do you arbitrarily draw the line between Blackness and biracialness? 30%? 50%?
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:30 AM
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1. What?
I am not understanding your point.
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:31 AM
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2. So what's your point? You want him to deny his white mother had anything to do with his birth?
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:33 AM
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3. I was just thinking what is your train of thought
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:33 AM
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4. My point is that Obama is a Black man, in the American sense
He was raised by a White mother. That's a fact of his life, like how some other Blacks may have been raised by their grandmothers, or foster care, or by their actual biological parents. But that doesn't change the fact that he was and is still regarded as a Black man.
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:35 AM
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5. Always we must measure people with % points
so where do you arbitrarily draw the line between Blackness and biracialness? 30%? 50%?

Why do we always have to draw arbitrary lines about things? How can you measure somebody like that with little % points. It seems so demeaning.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:53 AM
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6. Halle Berry ..
"My mother cleared it up for me when I was very young," she explains. "She said when you look in the minor you're going to see a Black woman. You're going to be discriminated against as a Black woman so ultimately, in this society, that's who you will be. And that's made my life very easy. . . I think if you're an interracial child and you're strong enough to live I'm neither Black nor White but in the middle,' then, more power. But I needed to make a choice and feel part of this culture. I feel a lot of pride in being a Black woman."


and an article on same subject..
Now the London Evening Standard has joined in: "Halle's no black beauty," read the headline, while the (white) journalist helpfully informed us that the star "isn't exactly black". The writer's central point - that those with cafe-au-lait skin fare better in Hollywood than their darker sisters - is unquestionably true.
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To claim to be white was to deny your true self; "a drop of midnight" outweighed pints of "white" blood in your veins. Our ancestors catalogued each tiny variation: their categories went as far as octoroon, someone who was one-eighth "negro" (and not, as you might think, seven-eighths white). Mixed-race children learned to embrace the identity once foisted on them. Treated as black, they became black - and proud - identifying with the family most likely to welcome them. Now, it appears, half black is Not Black Enough - not even to whitey. So they are frauds if they pass as black people, too, though none denies white parentage. No wonder Berry sounds so weary of the subject: "No person in my whole life has ever thought that I was white," she told Movieline magazine.

http://www.wtaworld.com/archive/index.php/t-46905
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:57 AM
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7. There is implicit racism in those who say "half black, half white"
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 11:59 AM by TexasObserver
In a country where anyone who had a visible trace of African has been considered black for our entire history, it's a bit disingenuous to use the term half black and half white.

Almost all black Americans contain some small percentage of "white" heritage," a side effect of the conditions of slavery and beyond. To attempt to play the race card as a wedge issue is despicable.

If Hillary ends up losing, it will go down as one of the worst run campaigns in history, mainly because they never understood that not everything is subject to campaign exploitation.

I am not reading your OP as being favorable to the racist users of the term, however, and want to make that clear. Your comment merely prodded mine.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:59 PM
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8. Another main point of mine
Is that biracial or multiracial don't become half-white or part-white until they become successful. As my title suggests, if these mixed people were the dregs of society, America would be more than willing to castigate them as Blacks, and nothing more.
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