DEANIAC Obama supporters HEADS UP! Obama's Comm. Director was behind vile Dean morphs into Osama ad!

[in_cog_ni_to]

The very same man that was behind the Dean morphing into Osama Bin Laden, works as Communications director for OBAMA!!!


Here's the link to the hateful, vile ad:

http://tinyurl.com/2gfe8

"In its third ad in the past two weeks, the secretive 527 group Americans for Jobs, Healthcare & Progressive Values (AJHPV) brings out its harshest attacks to date against Howard Dean.

The ad's sole visual is a slowly moving shot of a Time Magazine cover featuring Osama bin Laden. As the picture zooms in on a close-up of bin Laden’s eyes, the announcer intones, "Howard Dean just cannot compete with George Bush on foreign policy." The ad concludes by asking Democrats – presumably those who currently support Dean - to "think about that … and think about it now."

The ad began airing in New Hampshire and South Carolina on Saturday, before the capture of Saddam Hussein. Two other AJHPV anti-Dean ads have aired in Iowa, both ending with a domestic variation of the Osama warning: "If you thought Howard Dean had a progressive record … check the facts … and think again." Overall, AJHPV has pledged to spend $400,000 on advertising in Iowa.

"AJHPV's new spokesman is former John Kerry press secretary Robert Gibbs, who left the Massachusetts senator's campaign when his boss, Jim Jordan, was fired. The Kerry camp also denies any connection with the 527 group. Both the Gephardt and Kerry campaigns have gone on the air with positive ads this week, leaving the Dean bashing to AJHPV."

And YES HE IS Obama's communications director.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Robert_Gibbs

"Robert Gibbs is communications director for U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill).) and currently serves as communications director for Obama's 2008 presidential campaign.

Gibbs, a "longtime communications operative with a special focus on the Senate, has been with Obama since shortly after his 2004 primary victory. Prior to that Gibbs served as a spokesman for Sen. John Kerry's (D-Mass.) presidential bid."<1>

Gibbs, like Obama's national campaign manager David Plouffe, "has experience in the nitty-gritty of Democratic politics, having served as the communications director at the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and as campaign spokesman for Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.) in 1998."<1>"

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Dean's Camp Condemns bin Laden ad:
http://tinyurl.com/ypowdc

Dean's campaign manager, Joe Trippi, called the ad "the kind of fearmongering attack we've come to expect from Republicans," one that "panders to the worst in voters."

(snip)

But a spokesman for Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who has hammered Dean's opposition to the war since the weekend capture of fugitive Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, echoed its criticism while denouncing its tone.

"We agree with Joe Trippi that this ad is produced and presented in a way that is over the top," said Brian Hardwick, Lieberman's deputy campaign director.

"But we also agree that it's exactly the kind of ad that Republicans would run. And that's precisely the problem. Simply put: The Democratic nominee will not win in 2004 if he appears weak on defense."

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I did more follow-up and here's a link that verifies that Gibbs is still Obama's communications director:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/barack.obam...

On that page is a very interesting tidbit:
"Jim Margolis, Senior advisor, A media strategist with close ties to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid."

[bellasgrams]

1. Doesn't surprise me.

[onehandle]

2. Interesting. nt

[Politicub]

3. :sigh: Figures...

I'm to the point now that nothing is surprising to me. Though the Dean ad was effective and memorable in the most vile, negative way, it's too bad that the creator of it was given a job on the "Hope express."

:puke:

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. "HOPE Express"

:rofl: Good one!

I know! I couldn't believe Mr. "Positive Campaign" had hired this guy! I know how it affected The Dean supporters. It was NOT good.:puke: It just tells us what's to come, IMCPO.

[bidenista]

5. ugh. that is both disgusting and unsurprising. nt

[Drunken Irishman]

6. Disgusting.

Still an Obama supporter, though. :)

[tabatha]

7. Where does it say that Gibbs produced the ad?

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. "AJHPV's new spokesman"

is former John Kerry press secretary Robert Gibbs, who left the Massachusetts senator's campaign when his boss, Jim Jordan, was fired.

"the secretive 527 group Americans for Jobs, Healthcare & Progressive Values (AJHPV) brings out its harshest attacks to date against Howard Dean."

He was behind it. He worked with the 527 that attacked Dr. Dean.:( That same man now works for the Obama campaign.

[KittyWampus]

21. where does it say Gibbs HIMSELF produced it? He was just the spokesman. Liar.

[Straight Shooter]

41. He was in on it up to his eyeballs.

But influential liberal blogger Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos, who together with Armstrong co-wrote "Crashing the Gates," piled on, calling Gibbs a "smear-meister best known for his work trashing other Democrats.

"Obama clearly dipped into the slimiest corners of DC to pluck out Gibbs," Markos wrote.

Ouch!

But after a week of fast-and-loose mudslinging with the Clinton campaign, it appears Gibbs (perhaps under orders from Obama?) has had enough of fighting back. He did not respond to messages seeking comment on the bloggers' brutal postings.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007/02/obama_spokesman_under_scrutiny.html

This, of course, was before Kos fell for Barack. Still, either he stands by his words, or he doesn't.

[debatepro]

8. fortunately obama will not have any of that...

Hopefully, the tidel wave that is Obama will help whipe this sort of attack from the political landscape. There is a big difference between being a spokeperson for an organization and being the one who made the call to do that sort of ad. Doesn't change my opinion of Obama...

[flyarm]

11. really?????????????????

i woke to this today in my email from someone i worked the Edwards camp with...

do rethink your claim...



TIME- video of Obama Sun. mocking Edwards

http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/03/obama-forgets-edwards-is-out-of-the-race/
Uses old gibe about debate answer Sunday to mock former rival whose supporters he is supposed to be courting.
What a nice touch- mocking Edwards for his debate admission that his compassion for the poor is also his weakness.


fly

[debatepro]

14. Nice try... Come on he has been telling this story for weeks...

He says when they were asked to describe there biggest weekness... Obama said he has to have help organize his papers... JRE said his biggest weakness is he cares passionately about people and hillary gave some other ingenuous answer... Obama follows it up with ... If I would have gone last I would have understood the game and said... sometimes I want to help old ladies accross the street and they don't want to be helped. He basically is saying he gives an honest answer while the other candidates didn't...

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. And what exactly does THAT have to do with him hiring the man who helped put this disgusting ad out

against Howard Dean?:eyes: Obama is NOT an honest man. He's just playing one on teevee.

[krkaufman]

38. Ummm... clearly the poster was answering the question posed to them.

Which had nothing to do with the OP.

[flyarm]

22. i didn't nice try..obama did this yesterday..not me..so now you obamiacs blame the messenger? ok

i got you figured out now!!

fly

[debatepro]

33. Only you can change your tone and misguided response(s)!

Do you just make this stuff up? Seriously.

Lets look at the flow.

- Post: Someone who works for obama once worked for a 527 that had a pretty bad attack on Dean.
DP: Obama will not allow his people to perform this kind of attack. His message has the ability to clean up political discourse.
You: Oh ya… well what about Obama talking about John Edwards weakness.
DP: It’s a joke about answer questions honestly and he has been doing this skit for weeks now.
You: Obamiamics blame the messenger.

Me: I have done no such thing sir/mam. Your attack is desperate and completely misguided. In fact I have to wonder what would motivate you to completely mischaracterize my response. Here is a tip if you are going to label someone (obamiamics) then accuse them of something (blaming the messenger) then you might want to provide some sort of evidence and warrants for your claim in your post.

Nice try again.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. The man was the spokeperson for the 527 that made that DISGUSTING AD! Don't kid yourself about what

Obama will not do. Just wait. I suggest you open your eyes before it's too late.

[newmajority]

9. That ad was vile and disgusting, and it kept a great man out of the White House.

But 28 years of BushClinton have done far more damage to this country. I might consider a third choice if there were one. But Hillary is not, and never will be, an option.

[krkaufman]

39. Well, one ad did not a collapse make.

A lot of other factors, and players, contributed to Dean's exit from the 2004 race.

[Unsane]

10. And the vile Mark Penn RUNS Hillary's campaign. So?

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. That's no comparison.

Of course you would dismiss this. It's to be expected. Though there are many Dean supporters who know how to think for themselves and look at the bigger picture here.:(

[Unsane]

23. Yes it is. Penn is a scumfuck who tried to paint Obama as a druguser.

Hillary keeping great company!

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. No it's NOT. WHITE PEOPLE DEAL DRUGS TOO.

Obama made it into a race issue...not Penn.

[Unsane]

26. Did I say it was about race? Penn is human waste.

Just a vile POS. He tried to lie about Obama and got burned.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. BULLSHIT. You just make shit up as you go along.

:eyes:

[Unsane]

30. Penn didn't do that?

Then, Clinton pollster Mark Penn added kerosene to the controversy by emphasizing “cocaine use” when asked on MSNBC’s “Hardball” about the Shaheen incident: “Well, I think we've made clear that the issue related to cocaine use is not something that the campaign was in any way raising.”


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7871.html


SCUM-FUCK

[newmajority]

27. The biggest drug dealer of the 20th century was a white man

And given the record crop in Afghanistan, I'd say he's still in business.....



...and yes, that is how he got the name "Poppy"

[NJSecularist]

12. Good grief

The Hillbots are sweating, looking for any and all dirt on Obama.

[andyrowe]

13. Here.

You continuing distortion shows your desperation. Dean says Yes We Can!

[Occam Bandage]

17. He was behind the ad? Sounds like he's just a spokesman-for-hire.

[psychopomp]

42. Indeed

While Sen. Obama is not without criticism, his judgment is not called into question by this tenuous connection to an uncalled-for ad in another campaign.

[bidenista]

44. hmmmm

[Straight Shooter]

19. As ye sow, so shall ye reap, and so shall those who are joined with thee

Okay, I embellished the scripture a bit.

You know the Repubs are going to run the same campaign against Obama, showing a tall lanky figure in what could pass for the Afghan terrain, as it slowly morphs into Osama.

2004 was bad, but 2008 has the Supreme Court and the direction of the United States for the next 40 years at stake. What Gibbs did to Dean through his AJHVP is kindergarten politics compared to the mudslide that's heading our way.

Seriously, just what exactly has Barack done to prove he's strong on defense, besides engage in obligatory anti-war rhetoric for his base?

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. They have no clue what's in store for Obama. NONE. The RWers will tear him to shreds!

He's had no dirty ads run on him. As Hillary has said, he's been pretty much untouched by the wicked games these people play. Her, on the other hand, has seen it ALL!

[stillcool]

29. Perhaps there is more to this?

This article was originally published on February 1, 2007 for The Nation.
Obama's Media Maven

Even though he lives 1,000 miles from the notoriously clubby world of political consulting, Axelrod has become one of its most successful and respected practitioners. Mark McKinnon, who produced George W. Bush's ads in the last cycle and now works for John McCain, calls Axelrod "the best media guy out there who doesn't have a ring." With his quick wit and knack for soundbites ("The Icon gets hoisted," Axelrod said of the media's treatment of star candidates, "and then it becomes a piñata"), the onetime Chicago Tribune political writer is a favorite of reporters seeking quotes. Charming as he can be with journalists, those who have worked with him say, he can be "aggressive" and "extremely difficult" in the trenches of a campaign. Colleagues point out that he's uncommonly idealistic for someone in his line of work, though a veteran Chicago reporter noted that this has its limits: "He's a principled guy, but he's not a philanthropist. The candidates he's worked for have been well funded, and he's made very good money doing what he does."

Axelrod is known for becoming close to his candidates, and indeed, he has become Obama's closest political adviser, talking strategy daily and producing the two videos recently posted to Obama's website. Reclining in a chair in his Chicago office the week before Obama announced the formation of his presidential exploratory committee, Axelrod was subdued, seemingly exhausted, but intense and hyperarticulate. Like Obama he speaks with what can seem a refreshing frankness, though just a few hours later, going over my notes, it was clear that he had remained scrupulously on message.

Axelrod's firm, AKP Media, which he runs with his partners John Kupper and David Plouffe, has handled a series of high-profile national and state campaigns, from John Edwards's 2004 presidential run to Tom Vilsack's and Eliot Spitzer's gubernatorial races; but for much of its two decades the firm's bread and butter has been mayoral races, with a particularly strong track record in electing black candidates. Indeed, ever since working on the re-election campaign of Chicago's Harold Washington in 1987, Axelrod has developed something of a novel niche for a political consultant: helping black politicians convince white voters to support them. With Obama's bid for the presidency, Axelrod's skill in this area will face the ultimate test.

Christopher Hayes is the Washington, D.C. Editor of The Nation.

http://www.chrishayes.org/articles/obamas-media-maven/

• • Build a national political organization, probably based in Chicago.

Obama's inner circle will grow and diversify. He will need to develop a cohesive and efficient staff. Chief potential rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has a deep bench of battle-tested loyalists. Clinton, a veteran of her husband's 1992 and 1996 presidential contests has vast experience running national campaigns.

The core Obama players -- all experienced in national political strategy -- are Chicago media consultant David Axelrod and, in Washington, David Plouffe, an Axelrod partner; communications chief Robert Gibbs; chief of staff Pete Rouse, and Hopefund political director Alyssa Mastromonaco.


Obama's team has talked to potential staffers but has made no offers, Axelrod told me. They have plenty of time to put together a good campaign, even though others have a head start.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/154692,CST-EDT-sweet30.article

[ieoeja]

31. I supported Dean because...

1. He was the first pro-gun, viable Democrat running for the nod in decades.
2. He was right on Democratic strategy, i.e. run everywhere, talk to everyone, stop ceding huge portions of this country to the rightwing without a fight.
3. He was right on Iraq.


I support Obama because...

1. He is right on Democratic strategy, i.e. run everywhere, talk to everyone, stop ceding huge portions of this country to the rightwing without a fight.
2. He was right on Iraq.


I oppose Clinton/DLC because...

1. They are wrong on Democratic strategy, i.e. target a handful of swing states. Attempts to counter rightwing propoganda in Republican strongholds won't win the election, so why bother?
2. I seriously wonder if some of that group are rightwing moles who have duped the rest into following a strategy to win the presidency at the cost of everything else.
3. They were wrong on Iraq.

[OzarkDem]

32. Worst kind of Democrat

Gibbs and cohorts are GOP wannabe's who love nothing more to wage vicious dirty fights against fellow Dems, but refuse to attack Republicans.

They should be purged from the party.

[Straight Shooter]

37. That smear ad on Dean was incredibly vicious and disgusting.

And all they did was lower the bar for what's coming next.

Divide and conquer from within. What a great strategy. :(

[krkaufman]

34. Do your homework, people. OPer is a Hillary supporter. n/t

[Cha]

36. And wasn't she always dumping

on Dean..her canned outrage is pathetic.

[krkaufman]

40. Dunno. Just wanted to warn that the info wasn't from a disinterested, unbiased source. n/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

35. freakin' hypocrite. I knew Obama was too good to be true.

n/t

[CTLawGuy]

43. OMG now I'm so not going to vote for him

I'll vote for the woman who is not sorry for killing 4000 of our troops, cause that is less offensive.

:eyes: