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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:30 PM
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I hope we have a candidate after tomorrow. It will nice to unite against the GOP
and quit fighting with each other.

that is all.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:34 PM
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1. Damn Skippy
:)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:35 PM
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3. lol
:hi:

i am getting tired of the battling, i want to battle the true evils.

:loveya:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:34 PM
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2. Agreed.
But it's still way too close. I don't think tomorrow's really going to decide anything except that this isn't over yet.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:35 PM
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5. i really hope thats not true.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:39 PM
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13. I don't like it, either...
...but that's my best guess.

Unfortunately, my crystal ball overheated and shorted out recently, so this race was too much even for it. :D

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:35 PM
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4. So do I
but I doubt we will.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:35 PM
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6. yeah, but still hoping we have a clear winner
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:36 PM
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7. Unite? These people here? ROFLMAO!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 PM
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we united in 04 behind kerry. even the strongest dean or clark supporters
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 02:38 PM by lionesspriyanka
finally came together. we can and will do it again.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:40 PM
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15. There was actually a tombstoning of epic proportions as Dean supporters broke down.
It was insane.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:45 PM
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24. The way Dean was absolutely robbed by the media and the DLC
can you blame them for being a little angry? I was lurking here in '04, and it seemed to me some of the other folks were celebrating Dean's manipulated "downfall" just a little too much.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:47 PM
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26. yeah the whole dean scream was bullshit. that was a media scam. i liked dean
kerry was my guy, but i liked dean and clark just fine.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:58 PM
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36. Ahh, but the anti-Kerry folk still have kneejerk resentments, and pop up regularly
Even 4 years later.

A long but *cleanly fought* competition is actually good for us.
I big part of what I think upsets you (and me) is the shallow BS of the media, coupled with the childish food fight here.
Not much we can do about the former, other than complain to the media website, emails, LTTE - and share real info with those around us, one to one.

As to the kiddie pool here - the only way to damp down the BS is for those respected WITHIN each camp to tell their compadres to ramp it down, for the good of their own candidate.

I have tried to gently persuade the best of each camp, and got nothing. I guess they don't see it as being in their interest - some prefer the outrage and ensuing battles, even over the most frivolous of things. Each thinks the OTHER side has all the cultlike behavior, which is pretty hard to imagine.

Then of course the College Repub swat teams, freepers and general muckrakers - that is up to the moderators and the wisdom of each discrning DUer to determine. There is a new wave of folks who joined in the last week, for instance, with HUNDREDS of posts already. Hmm, indeed.

Know whut I'm sayin' sista?
I wish you peace, and look forward to working together to "beat those GOP bastards"
(non-aligned, long timer)
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The Delegates Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 PM
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8. Not a chance in hell
There is no way someone wins by enough delegates to thoroughly distance themselves. I see no way this race doesn't go to the convention.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:38 PM
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12. crapola.
:(
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The Delegates Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:39 PM
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14. Yeah
It does stink. But seriously...if you plug in the polling averages through all states, they indicate the race will be basically tied.

Superdelegates may decide this race.

And I see no way Superdelegates break for Hillary if Obama and Hillary are tied. Obama's biggest hurdle with them is his viability. If he can compete with the Clinton machine, they'll rally behind him.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:41 PM
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17. If they go to the convention virtually tied, neither of them gets it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:42 PM
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20. really? what happens?
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The Delegates Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:43 PM
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21. Now that I think about it
I doubt Superdelegates will let it go to the convention. They may come out in force for one candidate after Super Tuesday. My bets are on Obama if this momentum continues.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 PM
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9. I'm hoping for a muddle out of the republican contests
to keep McCain from settling in for the general
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 PM
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11. me too. i wish muddle for them and clarity for us
:)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 PM
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10. In theory.
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:40 PM
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16. The only people on here agreeing with you are the Hillary Supporters
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 02:50 PM by IndieLeft
That would probably mean Hillary walloped him. Of course, seeing as how he now has the lead in California, who knows, maybe it will be.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:42 PM
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19. you should take a nap. such hostility is unhealthy. i said nothing about my candidate winning
:eyes:

also silverweb is an obama supporter
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IndieLeft Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:48 PM
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27. I said Hillary Supporters are the only ones agreeing with you.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 02:50 PM by IndieLeft
I didn't say you. It's not okay to make an observation?

Oops... I'll edit that.

And yes, I do need to go take a nap. I quit smoking today... 1st day on the patch.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:54 PM
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31. the assumption of your comment is i am only saying this because i want an hrc win
which is not true

i just want us to unite behind our true enemy

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:42 PM
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18. well, it might be the beginning of the end for one ot them
but it's just not likely that we'll have our candidate tomorrow. In fact, it's really unlikely. It appears that this race could go on into April. There's a nauseating thought.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:43 PM
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22. yeah it is a nauseating thought. i want to start w. the campaign against the republican asshole
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:44 PM
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23. I disagree....
....Every week our campaign goes on is another week of news cycles dominated by the Democratic party....

It means more free advertising in the form of debates like last Thursday, that highlight how much better our candidates are than the Republicans.

McCain won't be able to get 10% of the news coverage if the Dem race goes all the way to the convention... it will keep the Democratic party energized and the momentum growing all the way up to the convention....

..which will be the most watched political convention in the history of American politics.

Meanwhile, relegated to the talk radio circuit, McCain will be fighting with the Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannity's of the world about being a "real conservative".

Rush and Sean will do our dirty work FOR us over the summer... and since the Dems won't have a nominee yet, the GOP will have to hold off their attacks even longer.

They aren't going to waste ad-buys against the Democrats until they know who they're up against.

Everything about this race goes against conventional wisdom. A prolonged race that goes to the summer will be a GOOD thing..... it will allow us to get ground organizations going in ALL 50 states, since each state's race will be important. Democratic voters in states like PA and Texas will be engaged because the race will still be up in the air when it comes to them....

Yes... you might have some unpleasantry here on DU and places like kos.... but the best way to keep the voters engaged IN ALL 50 states, while the GOP struggles for any media time at all, is to keep this race going.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:46 PM
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25. thats a very good point. thanks for the perspective.
:hi:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:50 PM
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28. I agree. It's been a nasty few days here on DU
:hi:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:16 PM
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33. hi shine.
:hi:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:16 PM
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34. hi shine.
:hi:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:51 PM
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29. Agree. However, it seems unlikely
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:15 PM
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32. i realize that. its still pretty sad though
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:53 PM
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30. Disagree
We saw how having a candidate 6 months out worked in 2004, where the Republicans could focus all their energy on one person. I wouldnt have a problem if this went to the convention so we keep getting media for every state and give all states the chance to be heard.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 03:41 PM
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35. With ya on that
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