The Hypocrisy of DUers: It's OK to NOT vote for Obama if he wins the Nomination, but ...

[berni_mccoy]

It's NOT OK for Obama's wife to consider whether or not she would work for Hillary? CMON!

I've seen post after post and even have shown that 50% of the Clinton supporters would not vote for Obama in the GE, and yet it's DAMNING of OBAMA if his wife doesn't want to work for Hillary?!?!?

I find this place more and more sickening each day.

[Mz Pip]

1. Who said irony is dead?

:crazy:

[papau]

19. irony? - here's Michelle Obama giving the finger to idea of working for Hillary if she's the nominee

Here's a rough transcript of Mrs. Obama on GMA:

GMA: Could you see yourself working to support Hillary Clinton should she win the nomination?

MICHELLE OBAMA: I'd have to think about that. I'd have to think about that, her policies, her approach, her tone.

GMA: That's not a given?

MICHELLE OBAMA: You know, everyone in this party is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is. I think that we're all working for the same thing. And, you know, I think our goal is to make sure that the person in the White House is going to take this country in a different direction. I happen to believe that Barack is the only person who can really do that.


Ah yes, tone. You mean like this?


"I'm confident that I will get her votes votes if I’m the nominee, it’s not clear that she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee.” - Barack Obama

Well, at least the Obama's are reading off of the same script, as people suck their Hope Soda up with a straw.

This just about tears it for me.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

[Mz Pip]

29. Hyperbolize much?

"Give the finger" Yeah, right. :eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

2. I've seen plenty of Clinton supporters

say they'd vote for Obama with no problem.

I've seen plenty of Obama supporters say they would vote third-party or stay home on election day.

It cuts both ways. I love how one side tries to claim the most-victimized status.

[berni_mccoy]

4. I did a survey here last week: 50% of Clinton supporters would not vote Democratic

if Obama won. About 1/3 of Obama supporters said the same about Clinton. I believe you voted in the Clinton supporter survey as well as commented in it.

And note, the question to Obama's wife was not about voting for Clinton, it was working for her.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. a DU poll isn't exactly scientific

but my point is, it cuts both ways, and no side has a monopoly on the high road.

[berni_mccoy]

14. I never claimed that Obama's side had the high road. Note the language in my post.

I called out DUers, not Clinton supporters.

And I agree, anyone who says the won't vote for the nominee has to have their Democratic creds questioned. Unfortunately, that's not what Mrs. Obama did.

[MADem]

15. Got a link to that poll of yours? NT

[berni_mccoy]

18. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4273861

What's more notable than the numbers are the responses.

[redqueen]

3. DUers aren't huge figures in the media, are they?

Obama's wife, though...

Besides... I've seen people say both... they just can't bring their oh-so-principled selves to vote for so and so!

*cue dramatic swoon into a chaise lounge, back of the wrist pressed dramatically to the forehead*

:eyes:

It's not just some of Hillary's supporters and it's not just some of Obama's followers.

It's just mindless followers. :)

[BOSSHOG]

5. Soon

it will be the dem versus the gop candidate. Lets hope to God the principled ones apply their principles in that contest.

[redqueen]

10. I think that's the contest these whiners are whining about...

"I just can't vote for so and so in the GE!"

If they aren't whining about that, then I really don't give a fuck, cause it doesn't matter to me. Whichever of the last two standing gets it... I'll vote for em.

[liberalhistorian]

6. And yet God help us if we all don't bow down

and worship the Queen who is, according to their thinking as well as hers, automatically entitled to the presidency. Which is complete bullshit. This my way or the highway thinking is going to get us a big fat republican president this November. And if one more Clintonista screams who cares, what's the difference between Obama and the republicans, I'm going to have to restrain myself from throwing my computer against the wall.

[lvx35]

7. That's because Obama is on TV saying that he's more electable because Hillary's supporters will vote

for him, but his supporters won't vote for Hillary. That radicalized a lot of Hillary supporters.

[papau]

17. As with the race card - Obama starts the game also here with who'd vote - then claims to be a victim

[atreides1]

8. I'll vote for the Nominee

Whether it's Senator Clinton or Senator Obama. People on both sides have done some really crappy things to their "opponents", maybe it's time to finally say that as Democrats we will all support the person who gets the nomination, but until that happens we will work for our candidate.

And no, I have not taken sides in this, I'm listening to what each of the candidates has to say with an open mind, maybe some here could benefit from that concept.:)

[MADem]

11. She didn't SAY "work" though. It was a dumb thing to say. When

that reporter started pushing those buttons, she should have demurred, and said "I'm here to talk about my husband, not his opponents or their spouses" and LEFT it at that.

If her remarks weren't being taken--as they should be--as harsh, there wouldn't be five dozen separate threads on this issue.

They are going to rerun that thing tonight on NIGHTLINE. I watched it this morning, and I was....SURPRISED at the edge in her voice, the 'tone.' It was not a shining moment.

I don't know a single HRC supporter who won't vote for BHO in the general, if he makes it. I really think you should back up that wildass percentage you're tossing out with some proof, eh? How hard is it to throw up a link, if you "even have shown" such a thing?

If you find this place sickening, no one has you chained to your keyboard, do they?

[ellacott]

20. Many Clinton supporters have indeed said that

Michelle didn't say she wouldn't vote for her. She said she's not sure she would work for her. After going through the primary season that she's been through I wouldn't make any promises either.

[MADem]

22. "Many Clinton supporters" are NOT the spouse of a candidate.

And the word was NOT "work." It was, IIRC, "support."

It doesn't matter what she feels, it is what she SAID that is genuinely problematic. That was a rookie mistake. She let the reporter pull her in and get the gotcha quote.

[ellacott]

23. The link I saw on GMA was work.

[MADem]

24. The word that leapt out at me, and I saw the thing this am, was SUPPORT

I think she actually used both words--work to SUPPORT...

I was listening to it without paying great attention, but when she started in on that Clinton riff, my ears perked up, I focused, and what I heard didn't help her husband's campaign.

In any event, it was, to use a term favored by her husband, a 'boneheaded' thing to say. I'm betting that she probably wished she could pull it back the minute she said it. But the edge in her voice was apparent, and real. It was not a good exchange for the spouse of the 'uniter' at all.

[berni_mccoy]

25. She said she'd have to think about "working" for the campaign, but all Democrats should "support"

Stop trying to see something that isn't there please.

[ellacott]

26. That's the way I took it also

After she's finally gone through this primary season on behalf of her husband I can understand not jumping at the opportunity to do it again so quickly.

[MADem]

27. "I'd have to think about that. I'd have to think about policies, her approach, her tone."

THAT is the remark that resonately HARSHLY.

You don't have to LIKE my opinion, you don't have to consider it. I don't CARE. I am telling you how it resonated with me, and TO ME, it sounded BITTER and MEANSPIRITED.

Obviously, your mileage varies.

I think Democrats shouldn't have to "think" about supporting the nominee in a general election.

[berni_mccoy]

21. I posted the link in my response #18 above. And BTW, look at the responses, not the numbers

I'm sure you know a few of those DUers who are posting that they wouldn't vote for Obama. You need to stop making your wild-ass claims without supporting evidence.

[MADem]

30. No, I don't know any of them. I haven't seen any of those posts. Nice trick, though, implying I'm

a liar. That's always a convenient refuge when you've nowhere else to go.

I'll repeat what I said before--if this place doesn't suit your needs, no one is forcing you to stay here.

And that interview is available online. She said what she said, that she'll have to THINK about it. I don't have to THINK about voting for OR working for the Democratic nominee, no matter who he or she is. But that's just me, I suppose.

Wild-ass, eh? Real smooth.

[rodeodance]

12. as a presidentiial spouse, who has been on the trail--It was politically astute.

It's NOT OK for Obama's wife to consider whether or not she would work for Hillary? CMON!

[Hoof Hearted]

13. I'll be pleased as hell, overjoyed even to vote for Obama if he's the nominee.

Don't let an onslaught of freshly minted newbies lead you to the mistaken belief that most Hillary supporters wouldn't vote for Obama. Most H supporters will in fact vote for O and most O supporters will in fact vote for H, especially when it gets to be November.

It's going to be fine. This is a great time to be a Democrat.

[Barack_America]

16. The proof is in the pudding....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4388367

Just saying...

[ErnestoG]

28. Typical Hillarite nonsense.

Every day I come in here, my previous idea of how ridiculous these people can get, is shattered once again.