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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:07 PM
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I am the supposed rare male voter for Hillary.
I do not fall for the she cries she is weak, she fights she is a bitch routine.
I do not like the job my fellow men have done with our country.
I would vote or recommend a more qualified Female over a less qualified male without exception for ANY JOB in the country.
I would do the same for a more qualified African American.
I hope my fellow men wake up and realize this is not a time to buy into the long waged Republican smear campaign and look at Clinton on her merits, if they do so...She will get their vote.
I know Hillary will fight for my causes and my beliefs.
I want a better life for poor Children, I want healthcare for all and REALIZE that a mandate with help to get costs down is a first step towards a real Health Care revolution. People who do not understand the process has to be one step at a time infuriate me.
I believe Hillarys tears and warmth are genuine!
I know she cares about everyone of us, even Obama voters.
I expect that everyone will back her when she wins this nomination!


HILLARY 08!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:08 PM
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1. ACTUALLY YOU ARE THE RARE NAME-ALL-IN-CAPS GUY
AND I WISH YOU WOULD CORRECT THE PROBLEM.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:09 PM
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4. And you are a thread crashing troll and I realize you cannot correct that!
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 06:09 PM by REDFISHBLUEFISH
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:16 PM
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18. Is he a 'natsi?'
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:10 PM
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7. It's his username, not his posts THAT ARE IN ALL CAPS.
So what's the problem? Oh. That he's a male voter for Clinton.

That makes two of us.

Bake
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:16 PM
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20. They were, until HE STARTED GETTING MADE FUN OF.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:17 PM
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21. So you are my stalker now? NICE HIYA STALKER BOY!
WATCH THIS! CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPS!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:19 PM
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25. No, I just have A VERY GOOD MEMORY.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:21 PM
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28. And a foul disposition!
Your petty attacks are boring, much like your other posts!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:23 PM
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31. Sure.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:29 PM
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36. Follow me around and bash every post! Itwill "change" minds!
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 06:29 PM by REDFISHBLUEFISH
I'm not playin' your games anymore sport!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:34 PM
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41. Everyone thinks they're special.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:43 PM
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50. Yes but apparently not as special as you feel I am!
Thanks for the bump!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:08 PM
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2. Sorry,
But I can't vote for a democrat who has no chance of winning in November.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:10 PM
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8. That is exactly why I am voting for her - because she will win.
She is not going to play dead when the gopers come after her.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:14 PM
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re
I disagree. She's a polarizing figure (more unfavorables than favorables) and will get nothing done in the Congress even if she does eeek out a victory b/c she will have no mandate. Too many scandals; too much corrpution; everyone tired of WJC. She doesn't make it past November.

I would like to move beyond the Clinton-Bush era and get a fresh start.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:25 PM
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33. I got news for you -
So is Ted Kennedy.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:30 PM
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39. I have news for you too:
Teddy isn't running for President. HRC is.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:37 PM
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43. You honestly don't think the repugs are going to use that against him?
hahaha. If Obama wins the nom, he better be ready for all of this or else it's going to be 2004 all over again.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:40 PM
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47. Yes
Sure they are. That as well as the fact that he was voted the most liberal senator.

But he will be able to defuse that easily. You know why? Because he is LIKABLE. He is likable and she is not. It's similar to how Reagan got democrats to vote for him, Obama can get Republicans and Independents as well as Democrats to vote for him. HRC cannot. He is the liberal version of Ronald Reagan.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:24 PM
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56. ow sweet of you to define polarizing.
Go Hillary
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:16 PM
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19. She has no secrets that have not been revealed either. Not sure what Repubs do to Obama
Guarantee it will be ugly.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:23 PM
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32. re
Yes, and as a result, most people dislike her. I respect her and her accomplishments but she has an artificial phoniness to her that doesn't play well. Most people don't trust her; she doesn't seem genuine, and she comes across as a power-hungry politician who will do anything to get elected.

Obama and McCain don't come across that way. They come across as sincere and honest.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:09 PM
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3. I am the ULTRA RARE Under 25 Male for Clinton.
Hill Yes! Only Hillary can clean up this mess!
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:10 PM
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6. Dismiss the myths, Men vote for her too!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:09 PM
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5. I guess I am too.
I don't fall for Obamanation's/right wing crap and lies about her.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:11 PM
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9. 29 year old man, go clinton! nt
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:11 PM
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10. Same here
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 06:11 PM by Tarc
Too old to fall for the Flavor of the Weak candidate.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:13 PM
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12. I knew I was not alone!
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:13 PM
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11. I am another 25 yo male Hillary supporter. Sometimes I think I should just drink the Kool-Aid so
I don't have to think anymore.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:14 PM
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15. 8 years of Republican Kool-aid was enough. I vote with my head not heart!
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:14 PM
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13. 29 year old male voter here
going to vote in CT primary for Hillary tomorrow, and hope that she's our nominee :)
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:14 PM
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14. My husband will be caucusing for Hillary
And my son would caucus for her too, except that he is on temporary active duty out-of-state and won't be able to make it.

I've been doing some GOTV calling for Hillary, and I've talked to men who claim they will caucus for her. But I'll grant you, there aren't as many as the women.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:15 PM
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16. My main problem with Hillary is the implication that in this huge
country only two families can produce Presidents. The fact that the other family produces mental defectives with no empathy whatsoever just makes it worse.

That said, I will never vote for a Republican until the day I die.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:19 PM
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24. If there's an election on the day you die, then
will you consider voting Republican on that day?
;-)
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:00 PM
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55. Maybe out of spite. I never considered that, but November is a
big month for dying in my family so I really have to have a position on this.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:16 PM
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17. Who claimed that Hillary had no males? Polling suggests she had good male support.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:18 PM
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22. The support lags behind her Female support and Id like to help change that!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:20 PM
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27. So would I.
I think we can bring that female support right back down ;).
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:19 PM
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23. I support her too
I made my choice based on her past accomplishments and her passion to get things done. Obama talks "pretty", but he doesn't strike me as having the passion to change all the things he is campaigning for. Hillary has been fighting for kids and healthcare reform for years, and has more knowledge of how to get things done.

Obama is still worlds above any repuke, and I could rally around him if he wins the nomination, but he is my second choice. He kinda has an air of arrogance to him that really turns me off.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:20 PM
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26. why not vote for someone who hasnt found a war yet she wouldnt support?
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:22 PM
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29. Obama funds it too!
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:23 PM
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30. In fact he admitted once he was not certain how he would have voted!
Read the forum much?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:40 PM
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48. WHERE have you been?__obama does the funding jig!
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:27 PM
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34. My husband, son, and brother will vote for her tomorrow.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:36 PM
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42. Thank them each for me!
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:28 PM
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35. 40-45% of males have been voting for her, you are not exactly rare
sorry if I made you feel not special
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:30 PM
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38. I want to push that to 65%.
I am a realist!
MU HA HA!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:30 PM
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37. To the male Hillary supporters
from a female Hillary supporter......:yourock:
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:32 PM
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40. Thanks!
Hillary 08!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:39 PM
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46. It's so nice to have men support a strong woman proudly.
I live in a rural red state area and lots of these guys think we should still be barefoot and pregnant.

I don't mind the barefoot part. ;)
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:38 PM
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44. thanks, we women have been voting for men for years!
why is showing compassion a sign of weakness?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:41 PM
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49. i think that is RW talking point
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:39 PM
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45. nope, i know lots of men who will/have voted for her. Glad to see you in this crowd:-)
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:45 PM
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51. I was in Wendy's in a small PA mill town yesterday and a group of
older gentlemen who apparently meet every morning were talking about how much they wanted Hillary to be President and one gentleman said that no one was going to talk him out of voting for her. He went on about how much this country needed a woman as President. I was impressed by how much this group of retired miners and millworkers believed in Hillary.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:47 PM
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52. There's quite a few of us right here.
Papi and four sons will be casting a vote for Senator Clinton on March 4th and in Nov it will be Papi and all five sons as the last born will be of age in Nov.

pee ess. This is your friend amigo...use it.

¡Sí, Se Puede!
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:03 PM
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54. Hillary 08!
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:48 PM
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53. You are actually...
an automated bot.

Whirr-click!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:40 PM
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57. Another one here!
Ready to go to the polls on March 4th to put her over the top!
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:46 PM
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58. Actually you are a Moron who brings Discredit on Hilliary supporters...
You've been here just a week or two and with this post you disparage every poster that supports Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, and Gravel including the women.You appeal on gender alone which I dislike as a white male, but how much more unfair is this to people not in my demographic? Your posts are bullshit and the only ones falling for it are a few Clinton supporters who haven't thought this through.Were I a Clinton supporter you are the first one I would cut loose-in fact I am an Edwards voter (NH) and undecided but clowns like you push me towards Obama. And sadly, not because I had him as a second choice, but because I detest bullshit posts by supposed Hilliary supporters, of which you are one.... (here is where, if you support Hilliary, you should disown this guy.....).
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:30 PM
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61. Sure i am, I guess you did not read my glowing words about Edwards.
Funny how you missed then.

I have not even talked to a Gravel supporter that i am aware f,,,,,Odd huh?

I do hit the Obama people back, I just get a bit angry, you would too. Do you go jump on them for their posts or just me?

I figured as much!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:36 PM
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63. Like hell he is and like fuck he does
Wow, talk about touchy!
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:13 PM
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59. Shout out to all the guys voting for Hillary!
I met a number of them on a walk up Broadway yesterday....Lots of male cabbies, bus drivers and truck drivers for Hillary, street vendors too. I spoke to a 89 year old man who said he was "absolutely" supporting Hillary....

And then there were these three, although the little one's probably too young to vote yet....


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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:26 PM
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60. Hillary 08, Ignore the flamers!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:32 PM
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62. I am a white Barack supporter
I respect your decision.

As I will join you if Hillary wins, so too I hope you will join me if Barack wins.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:36 PM
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64. Well said
:thumbsup:
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