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Mon Feb-04-08 07:11 PM
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I am trying to figure out why anyone would vote "Present" for an important vote in the Senate?
I honestly don't know.
I am still undecided but this really bothers me.
Splain.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:12 PM
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1. I think this has been splained a thousand times on DU. |
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You dont like it? Just say so.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:13 PM
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Lots of bills aren't simple statements. Sometimes they cover one or more issue. Sometimes they have riders.
Sometimes bills are good but contain flaws. Voting "present" is a procedural matter. It means the bill can be fixed without killing it completely, or without passing a flawed bill.
Voting "present" is something any experienced senator would do.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:19 PM
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7. Thank you for a non-snarky answer |
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I appreciate it.
Wouldnt a "present" vote only be letting someone else decide a bills passage or defeat though?
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:20 PM
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:13 PM
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2. He was positioning himself for a run for president. |
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How is this worse than Clinton introducing a law to ban flag burning in the last Congress? We're electing politicians, not saints. Just go with the one who you think will kick the most ass.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:14 PM
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3. Are you talking about the U.S. senate? |
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Because as far as I know there is no "present" vote in the U.S. senate.
But then, I'm pretty sure you're not interested in a real answer to this question anyway, are you?
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:22 PM
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I am trying to figure out who the heck to vote for and I had an honest question. Not everyone asking questions has an agenda.
Surprise!
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:24 PM
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12. No, it's from his Illinois senate days. |
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:14 PM
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4. Planned Parenthood asked him to vote this way to protect conservative Democrats in Illinois Senate |
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Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:15 PM by CreekDog
he resisted, but ultimately relented. a present vote is as good as a no vote, however, many of the bills were designed to embarass democrats in conservative leaning districts if they voted no. however, they were less at risk if they voted present. safe democrats were asked to vote present also in order to provide cover to the at risk democrats.
got it? that's what i learned.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:15 PM
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Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:16 PM by Kittycat
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:17 PM
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6. If you're still truly undecided, |
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I sure hope you've assimilated all the stuff that has been pointed out about BO.
If he was president when JFK had to turn the missiles around that were heading for Cuba, he would have dropped a load in his knickers.
Consider that in the context of accidentally pushing the wrong button. It should read as simple as Jack and Jill.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:21 PM
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9. same reason he has a list of no votes as long as my arm? n/t |
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:24 PM
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14. Voting "no" is so negative. |
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I'm not going to vote for somebody who votes "no" on things.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:22 PM
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11. because he is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in! |
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Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:23 PM by cd3dem
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:29 PM
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15. Because he's afraid to stand up for what he believes in! |
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:49 PM
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16. Here, let me give you this too sellitman |
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Not too long, but should give you pause that this person would be your president . http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,1,7079399.storyThis is serious stuff and so is your vote.
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Mon Feb-04-08 08:13 PM
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17. There is much is like and dislike in both candidates. |
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Maybe it will come down to who do I think will have the best chance to win in Sept.
Either D beats a R anytime.
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Mon Feb-04-08 08:32 PM
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But Obama is like skull and crossbones for me.
And the r's would have a field day with him. Remember, the independents in their party will come home to McCain. Experience and conservatism versus a kid.
Recycling all the Hillary stuff that's already been hashed ad infinitum and 56 million dollars worth of digging which came up with zero on Clinton, will do nothing but serve to turn people off. The more they hear, the more they will tune it out. And Hillary would walk to the win.
There is nothing left that they haven't already beat to death. And they can't hang the Kerry label of her being for the war before she was against it.
They will on Obama. I promise you!
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Mon Feb-04-08 08:39 PM
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But the Indy's might vote Obama over Hillary?
I dunno?
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