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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:01 PM
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Dean exemplifies the reason our symbol is a Donkey
Ever wonder where the mascot of the Democratic Party, the donkey, came from?

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The Democratic Donkey

When Andrew Jackson ran for president in 1828, his opponents tried to label him a "jackass" for his populist views and his slogan, "Let the people rule." Jackson, however, picked up on their name calling and turned it to his own advantage by using the donkey on his campaign posters. During his presidency, the donkey was used to represent Jackson's stubbornness when he vetoed re-chartering the National Bank.

The first time the donkey was used in a political cartoon to represent the Democratic party, it was again in conjunction with Jackson. Although in 1837 Jackson was retired, he still thought of himself as the Party's leader and was shown trying to get the donkey to go where he wanted it to go. The cartoon was titled "A Modern Baalim and his Ass."

Interestingly enough, the person credited with getting the donkey widely accepted as the Democratic party's symbol probably had no knowledge of the prior associations. Thomas Nast, a famous political cartoonist, came to the United States with his parents in 1840 when he was six. He first used the donkey in an 1870 Harper's Weekly cartoon to represent the "Copperhead Press" kicking a dead lion, symbolizing Lincoln's Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton, who had recently died. Nast intended the donkey to represent an anti-war faction with whom he disagreed, but the symbol caught the public's fancy and the cartoonist continued using it to indicate some Democratic editors and newspapers.

Later, Nast used the donkey to portray what he called "Caesarism" showing the alleged Democratic uneasiness over a possible third term for Ulysses S. Grant. In conjunction with this issue, Nast helped associate the elephant with the Republican party. Although the elephant had been connected with the Republican party in cartoons that appeared in 1860 and 1872, it was Nast's cartoon in 1874 published by Harper's Weekly that made the pachyderm stick as the Republican's symbol. A cartoon titled "The Third Term Panic," showed animals representing various issues running away from a donkey wearing a lion's skin tagged "Caesarism." The elephant labeled "The Republican Vote," was about to run into a pit containing inflation, chaos, repudiation, etc.


more here -> http://www.democrats.org/about/donkey.html

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And who do we have but Governor Howard Dean; whos stubborness, determination, clarity of purpose and refusal to be led by convention exemplifies the some of the best characters of a once proud party. None of the other contenders really comes close.

So when you see the tough, ass-kicking, self assured Dean continuing to take this process by storm, remind yourself that you're seeing the reason we have a donkey as the symbol of our Party.

And what of the Republican elephant? Well, it was Adlai Stevenson who had the best descriptions of that well known mascot: "The elephant has a thick skin, a head full of ivory, and as everyone who has seen a circus parade knows, proceeds best by grasping the tail of its predecessor."
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:08 PM
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1. On a side note: for what it's worth
Donkeys are used often as guard animals. They are very effective at keeping predators away from sheep and goat herds.


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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:09 PM
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2. Thanks for the note!
Another great reason to have this stubborn beast on our side.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:16 PM
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3. I was just thinking about this
when I saw this cartoon....what a coincidence


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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:19 PM
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5. Well, Dean IS an ass
nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:35 PM
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:20 PM
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11. Ya think someone will translate for him?
n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:22 PM
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:26 AM
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14. well, son...
I lived in Spain for 3 years and know the language quite well. ;-)
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:37 AM
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16. thats Señor...not senor...
...and why does he need a test? Is there a new rule he has to pass your test? wow, whatdya know....I missed the day you were appointed teacher!

Peace
DR
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:18 PM
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4. Nice post, Scott.
I've always wondered where this symbol came from -- now I know.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:33 PM
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7. Danke. I wondered myself, and thanks to Google, now I know.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 09:28 PM
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6. Interesting.
My horses live next door to a donkey. A miniature stud donkey. He is a little spitfire, that's for sure. He doesn't believe in rules. No pen can contain him if he doesn't want to be contained. He bullies every living thing around him mercilessly.

Last summer I had my grandson out visiting the horses with me. The donkey began braying at us as we walked by. Let me say that, from a package about the same size as a really big dog, it is loud. It sounds like a foghorn. Right next to you. And it goes on, and on, and on.

My grandson is 3 years old. He stopped, looked at the donkey, and frowned. He waited for the foghorn to end. Then he lifted his finger and shook it at the donkey in a scolding manner. Still frowning for all his little face was worth, he said, "You screamed at me. You're not nice."

I'm tempted to start calling the donkey Howard. I liked Howard the Duck; at least, my vague memory tells me so. I wonder if Howard the Donkey will work well with others.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:23 PM
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13. Aren't you supposed to have to hit a donkey in the head with a 2 X 4

to get it to pay attention?




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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:42 AM
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17. At least a 2 x 4"
grew up with farm animals...donkeys were as stubborn as mules...

:hi: LWolf, good for your grandson! I bet that was cute...dang those braying critters are LOUD!

OK-how embarassing is this...my HS mascot was the "Golden Mule"..bet you can guess what our nickname was....:evilgrin:

At least the girls teams were known as the Golden Mares...sounded a bit classier LOL

:shrug: but that was a looong time ago!

Peace
DR
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 09:24 AM
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20. The golden mule...
provides much for the imagination. :evilgrin:

Donkeys and mules both are stubborn creatures. Intelligent, but not cooperative. I've handled the resident mini-donkey quite a bit; he used to run with my filly before she matured and I moved her; no mini-mules for me!

He actually has a better disposition than many stud donkeys, but the only reason we can handle him is that we are bigger than he is. But the noise...ugh.

Democrats; we come with all the attributes!
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Peace_2_Everyone Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:06 PM
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10. It took awhile but
I found that cartoon
It along with a lot of text is available at
http://www.mi-democrats.com/topics/donkey.htm

Thanks for the most very informative post.



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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:16 AM
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15. Well he is certainly ornery like a donkey.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 06:32 AM
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19. but kucinich is the best at ass kicking
big corporations any way
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