Hillary Clinton has raised more money from lobbyists

[still_one]

Democrat Hillary Clinton has raised more money from lobbyists than any other presidential candidate while Republican John McCain has more of them assisting his campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080204/pl_bloomberg/apnpwl7xnjik

[liberalnurse]

1. That's still legal isn't it?

It's not War for Oil money or anything like President Bush receives or from Televangelist who talk poor people out of their last dime is it?

[still_one]

2. I never said it wasn't illegal did I? However, like all politicians it does

imply a special interest group or groups that most likely except something in return

[liberalnurse]

5. No bid contracts for Haliburton and Blackwater ....now what's that all about

tell me? I know it's not special interest money ....ah, maybe it's blood money for 1 million innocent Iraqi's dead from *bush's war for oil.

Okay............this is really bad but legal donation you infer "IS BAD"? Yea, right.

[still_one]

7. You are not implying that I am somehow supporting that, I hope not

The truth is I am extremely unhappy with Hillary's vote on the IWR

and YES it is a big issue to me

I know Obama didn't vote on it, but the point is Hillary did

However, I WILL VOTE FOR WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION

[Bread and Circus]

22. what are you so touchy about?

[papau]

3. Obama has raised more money from State lobbyists and state and federal lobbyist families

[still_one]

4. Do you have a link? /nt

[liberalnurse]

6. Okay, I'll do you foot work since you are in denial.

This is really good at PolitiFact............

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/aug/21/Obama-lobby/

few snippets here.........


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/28/photo-surfaces-of-obama-w_n_78569.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/12/hillary-hits-back-at-riva_n_64208.html

and here...............



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/02/AR2007120200253_pf.html

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Obama's Complex History With Lobbyists

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. -- Barack Obama played poker and basketball with lobbyists when he was a state senator. He took their campaign donations and worked with them to write legislation. But he also helped pass ethics laws to reduce sharply their influence.

A look at Obama's seven years in the Illinois Legislature reveals a complicated relationship with lobbyists _ particularly for someone who now makes criticism of lobbyists a centerpiece of his presidential campaign.

The Illinois Democrat, now a first-term U.S. senator, argues that they have too much power in Washington. He has sworn off taking donations from Washington lobbyists and political action committees, while assailing rival Hillary Rodham Clinton for not doing the same.

"It's time we had a president who tells the drug companies and the oil companies and the insurance industry that while they get a seat at the table in Washington, they don't get to buy every chair. Not any more," he said earlier this year.

Obama hasn't always been so adamant about lobbyists and their money.

About 40 percent of the money he raised as a state senator came from PACs, corporations and unions, including organizations with a financial stake in legislation he was sponsoring.

For instance, Obama, who often sponsored legislation on health care and prescription drugs, took $5,650 from health-related groups, $8,900 from insurance groups and $3,000 from a lobbyist representing drug companies.

Meanwhile, PACs contributed 3.2 percent of the $490,285 he raised for an unsuccessful congressional bid in 2000, and 8 percent of the $15 million he raised for his U.S. Senate race in 2004.

But while in the state legislature, Obama was a relatively small fish when it came to Illinois political money.

He usually got donations of a few hundred dollars or maybe $1,000 in a state where interest groups routinely give key officials tens of thousands of dollars at a time.

Disclosure reports show he rarely accepted gifts or meals from lobbyists, even though there was no limit on such freebies until Obama helped pass a law establishing one. For him, a big gift was $50 worth of tickets to a Rembrandt exhibit from the Art Institute of Chicago.

Some lobbyists were even a bit hazy on who he was, spelling his name "O'Bama" in their reports.

Several Illinois lobbyists said Obama was always willing to hear them out, even if he was on the opposite side of an issue.

"His door was always open. There weren't many times we agreed on things, but he would listen," said Jay Dee Shattuck, a lobbyist for the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, a group that didn't make campaign donations to Obama.

In some instances, Obama didn't just listen to lobbyists. He worked with them to draft legislation, hammering out the specifics in long negotiations with lobbyists from both sides.

[still_one]

8. First of all, you are not doing the foot work for me, you are doing it to present your position

it also is for anyone else who views this thread

but there is nothing in those links that say he took more money than anyone else state or federal that I could find

[liberalnurse]

9. Just go back to school............

Us big kids are tired of doing your homework.

Good night JohnBoy.

[still_one]

11. If Hillary wins the primary do you believe she can win the general election without

those who supported Obama?

You treat me with respect, I'll treat you with respect

Think about it

because we both lose if you don't

[TexasObserver]

10. It's true. No one is more mortgaged to lobbyists than Hillary.

very unfortunate

[Thrill]

12. The True Corporate Candidate

You think you're going to get Universal Health Care from Hillary? Think Again. She owes these people something

[jackson_dem]

15. So does Obama

[Indenturedebtor]

16. Link please?

[Thrill]

17. WRONG

Clinton took in $823,087 from registered lobbyists and members of their firms in 2007 and the second-biggest recipient was McCain, who took in $416,321, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based group which tracks political giving. Barack Obama, Clinton's rival for the Democratic nomination, doesn't take money from registered lobbyists, although he received $86,282 from employees of firms that lobby, according to the center.

McCain has 26 registered lobbyists as campaign advisers or fundraisers compared with 11 for Clinton and none for Obama, according to review of records compiled by Public Citizen, a Washington-based group that favors stronger disclosure laws for lobbyists.

[jackson_dem]

23. Why do you think executives write $2,300 checks to Obama?

As Edwards asked (when noting that Barack has taken more dough from drug companies than any candidate in either party after he passed Hillary), do you think they are interested in good government or do they expect something in return?

[Indenturedebtor]

18. Link please

Link please please. It really does matter to me. Please give me the link.

[jackson_dem]

24. opensecrets.org

[Thrill]

13. K&R

[Indenturedebtor]

14. Yes she does

My other thread on it goes unanswered. I won't plug it here... hate it when people do that. It's a hijacking of sorts.

[DebraK]

19. kick

[DebraK]

20. kick

[Thrill]

21. K&R