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Mon Feb-04-08 11:42 PM
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If you don't mind me asking... how old are you? How long have you been following/involved in politics?
I'm starting to see that maybe a great deal of the Obama support is coming from young voters and people who have little to no knowledge of the political process. So I'm just curious.
Save your flames, Obamaniacs... I didn't say all.
Myself, I'm on the young side (I think!) at 34. But I grew up in a VERY politically involved Democratic family, so I've been in the thick of politics for many years.
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:47 PM
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1. Maybe you should ask this question as a poll, with age ranges. |
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Not everyone wants to boast publicly about what an old cuss they are!
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:00 AM
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:48 PM
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2. I wish we could practice talking to each other without calling each other names. |
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In other words, I don't think it's helpful at all to call them Obamanaics.
The answer to your query is 37 and deeply involved since I was 17.
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:49 PM
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I am 38, and have been a dem all my voting life!!!! Kerry did not inspire now where near like this.......
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:51 PM
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I have seen a good many, 'Obama's, come and go. Just as the reach out to republicans flash in the pan Obama will go by the wayside. I'm in my 60s.
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:52 PM
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5. I'm 43, gay, a parent, live in Seattle, and I've been into politics since I was a teenager. |
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Mon Feb-04-08 11:56 PM
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6. 52, worked my first campaign in 1980 |
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And I just decided today that I'm going to vote for Hillary.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:20 AM
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I don't want to witness the bloodbath if it goes the other way.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 AM
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26. Thanks for your vote and wecome aboard! |
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:42 AM
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32. See my post here for the why... |
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:00 AM
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8. I was organizing petitions for the 18 year old |
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vote when I was 17. That means I started 37 years ago. I protested the Viet Nam war. I fought for abortion and birth control rights. I petitioned and protested for equal opportunity for women and sexual harassment laws. My first vote was for McGovern.
I support Hillary, not because I think she has no flaws, but in spite of those flaws. I think it is totally irresponsible to nominate an un-vetted candidate that the republicans will dig up dirt on and leave the democratic party flapping in the wind after it's too late. I don't hate Obama, I just see his problems...they are all over the internet. The republicans don't get goosebumps when he speaks, they lick their chops.
Hillary has fought the republicans for years and won and she CAN win again. She has detailed plans for the economy, health care, jobs, and getting out of Iraq. Are the plans perfect? Probably not but they are better than believing in a naive hope for undefined change. Hope MUST be tempered with reality or it leads to the kind of blind faith that causes people to believe the earth is 6,000 years old and global warming is a myth.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:02 AM
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:01 AM
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9. i'm a 19 year old heterosexual european-american male |
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so i know my Hillary support is not too common, but I just don't buy a politician spouting change who lacks the ability to tell us what about America he wants to change and how he is going to do it. Altho I'm rather young, I've read countless amounts about politics online and in books, so I know the important stuff. That is why I know that, as you point out, the political process is vague to younger people, but I know a lot about it, and I know it will crush Obama alive.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:23 AM
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you have my admiration and thanks.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:02 AM
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10. I remember Kennedy vs Nixon in 1960 |
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And I remember several horrible election nights in which our Dems went down to crushing defeats. I do not want that again this year, and I think that of the two remaining, Hillary has the best chance of avoiding that. She and Bill will have the War Room and will know how to fend off the smear juggernaut that is coming. Obama would be helpless against it.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:19 AM
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and they just won't hear. They think it's a popularity contest and a game.
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Tue Feb-05-08 02:37 AM
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They simply refuse to entertain the idea of the General Election. Yeah, just nominate Obama and he is automatically President. As easy as that.
Election night is going to be the greatest shock of their lives.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:04 AM
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:22 AM
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I fought hard to get you that right. If an 18 year old was old enough to go to war they were old enough to vote. And since 18 years olds were in the service they paid taxes. Our argument was taxation without representation. We gave speeches that would have brought a tear to your eye. ;)
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:07 AM
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14. Thirty four years old is not a spring chicken any more. |
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but not too old. I wouldn't call you an old fart until you turn 35 years old. Remind me, then, will you? :P
I'm 37 years old and I've been learning about politics since I was about 14 years old and voting every single time we have an election, nationally, state-wide, and locally, since I turned 18 years old.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:15 AM
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I turn 35 June 1. I'm trying to ignore the whole thing, though. :)
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:24 AM
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make me smack you. ;) Life starts at 40.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:29 AM
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Tue Feb-05-08 07:53 AM
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40. I remember the show Murphy Brown..... |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 07:53 AM by BlackVelvet04
on one show there was a 20 something woman giving the more mature Murphy Brown a bunch of crap about her age. Just as the younger woman takes her last shot thinking she has won, Murphy Brown leans closer to her and whispers "But I have an orgasm EVERY time. :rofl:
Game, set, match Murphy Brown. There are many things to look forward to.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:21 AM
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19. 24 with B.A in political science. I supported Dennis/Edwards, but now HIllary. |
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:21 AM
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20. I am 24 and have been following politics since I was 13 and involved since I was 18. |
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:23 AM
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23. I heard on PBS tonight about who is voting for Obama |
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They tend to be more highly educated and with higher incomes. And of course the youth vote. Interesting combination of people.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:26 AM
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25. I'm not surprised.... |
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many of my generation didn't have the educational opportunities. It wasn't even pushed in many rural areas. Unfortunately educated doesn't always mean realistic and intelligent. It doesn't mean the opposite either.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:48 AM
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Well this educated and apparently unrealistic and stupid Obama supporter is 28 and has been obsessed with politics for about 10 years. 11 years ago I was a puke. I didn't know any better. A month ago I was an Edwards supporter. I want whichever candidate is furthest removed from the Corporate puppet masters as possible.
To that end a couple months before that I was for Kucinich. I believe that there are no bad pukes... only misinformed and ignorant Democrats. As has been famously said.
I also believe that there are no bad Democrats. But real Democrats will work with Pukes, they will NOT work with corporations.
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Tue Feb-05-08 03:15 AM
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so I'm not part of the youth vote but I sure am glad so many of his supporters are. :bounce: :thumbsup:
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 AM
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27. I'm one year younger than you |
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and have been involved in politics since my teen years.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:49 AM
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very involved since Carter.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:32 AM
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30. This "Obamaniac" is 12 years older than you. |
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And I have been an activist most of my life, having worked on two mayorial campaigns among other things.
So much for your miserably wrong idea of "Obama support = young and inexperienced".
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:36 AM
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31. No you deserve some flames for that one |
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I support Obama and I'm 56 and have been paying attention since the 60's.
I see the need for change from the Clinton brand of Democratic politics as part of a long process.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:54 AM
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34. 52 and I started in politics (dabbling in it) when Carol Moseley -Braun ran for the Senate. I did |
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the phone bank for her. I got into politics SERIOUSLY after the 2000 election theft. I read David Brock's book, "Blinded by the Right" and was so pissed off after I finished it, I HAD to get involved. I found DU soon after the election theft of 2000. I worked on Wes Clark's campaign in 2004 and my U.S. Congressman's race too (he was running against useless Jerry Weller and lost :().
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Tue Feb-05-08 07:42 AM
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38. Clark was my 2nd choice in 2004 |
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I love him. :patriot:
Think he'll be Hillary's running mate?
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:31 AM
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41. If not VP, he will DEFINITELY be a part of her administration. He can't be SOS because you have to |
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be out of the military for 10 years. He retired in 2000....so, in 2010 he can be SOS. I KNOW he'll have a spot somewhere. VP? maybe, but I think she's probably going to take Biden as VP OR Biden could be her SOS??? I have NO CLUE who she would pick for VP. Clark, Biden, Richardson? I suspect after the Primaries, if she wins, there will be an outcry for Obama to be VP.
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Tue Feb-05-08 07:44 AM
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39. I am 44 have been following politics since the first election I voted in in 1982. |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:38 AM
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42. Enough with the stereotypes |
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I'm 40.
I have been actively involved in Democratic politics since I volunteered for Congressman Norm D'Amours while I was in high school.
I've served on Democratic County Committees in both New Hampshire and Arkansas.
I've been a member of the Young Democrats of America National Committee.
I've been a member of the NH Democratic State Committee.
I won election to the NH House of Representatives as a Democrat three times.
I am currently serving as a member of the Manchester Board of Aldermen (city council).
I worked as a field organizer for Joe Biden and Paul Tsongas.
I worked as a press flunkie for Paul Simon.
I have dealt with some state of the art douchenozzles in my years in politics. I have every reason to be cynical. But Barack Obama has helped rekindle that sense of idealism that drove me into the arena so many years ago. I don't listen to hip-hop, I can't figure out how to set up my MP3 player, and I've never watched American Idol. But I support Barack Obama. Proudly .
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:45 AM
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43. I'm 35 - my partner and I have been together for 13 years |
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I entered the workforce during the Clinton years, and it was a good, prosperous time in American history. I never got that hung up on the Monica Lewinsky thing, so that didn't turn me off from the Clintons. And before I get replies about some of the negatives from the Clinton era, it was still many times better than any republican admin I've lived through.
Supporting Hillary was an easy choice for me. She's always been there for LGBT folks as long as I've followed politics, and that's one of the many reasons why I support her. Two additional reasons are I believe she has the tenacity to deliver universal healthcare as well as stand up to the republican attacks that are sure to come during the general election.
Plus, I generally just like her. She makes me feel good about being an American, and embodies the possibilities that we have for making progressive choices to bring about a better tomorrow.
On edit: I've been involved since I was 18 or so. My first vote for president was Bill Clinton in 1992! And I proudly voted for another Clinton today in the GA primary.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:50 AM
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44. 35, and what I'm looking for in a candidate potentially affects ALL Americans. |
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e.g. the Economy.
Hillary's said a few things I like, a few I'm wary of.
In the end, she's a politician and as unaccountable for her decisions just as much as any of the others are. ;) :rofl:
/cynical
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:50 AM
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45. I'm 21 and got involved in politics when I was about 15. |
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My family (my mother especially) is very involved an connected in politics in our local area, so I started out working on some of her friends' campaigns, but I've since also been involved in some national campaigns (including Sen. Clinton's).
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:51 AM
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46. 29 years olf. and i have been following politics the last 10 years |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:52 AM
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followed politics off and on since the 80's, much more intensely since 2000.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:52 AM
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48. Here's another one - why is it "Hillary" and "Obama"? |
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This has infuriated me (an OBAMA supporter) for a long time. Doesn't she deserve the respect the other candidates get - McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Edwards, Kucinich, Giuliani..... HILLARY???? Are we all on a first name basis with her?
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Tue Feb-05-08 11:02 AM
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52. Don't be angry. I heard many of her fans call her Hillary on TV last night and all along. |
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Besides, "Clinton" could be confused with you know who.
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Tue Feb-05-08 04:27 PM
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54. I use them interchangeably... but I think it's to differentiate between Bill and Hillary |
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Plus, she's embraced it, so I don't think it offends her.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:52 AM
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49. Good question...do you have to give your age to enroll here at DU? I forgot. nt |
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Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 AM
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50. I will be 50 in March. |
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:wow: I can hardly believe it sometimes. How did I get to be this old? LOL
I was eligible to vote right at 18 in 1976. Because I lived in Puerto Rico at the time I couldn't vote in the Presidential elections until I moved back to the States so my first election was 1988. I have always been interested in politics though. And I have to say I feel somewhate resentful of some of the younger people dissing my generation and insinuating that my opinion has no value any more. I don't have children so I guess people who do are used to this more. Then again, like I said I still sometimes am shocked when I realize that I am almost 50.
By the way, you are a kid!:silly:
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Tue Feb-05-08 11:01 AM
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51. 28, always loved politics |
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My family wasn't very political, but I've been interested in politics since childhood. I can remember nagging my mom to let me watch the Bush vs. Dukakis debate - weird kid! The media keeps saying that Obama has a lot of support among young people, & I guess that's true. But most of my female friends are supporting Hillary.
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a mother..I work..and creator a great music! Hillary ROX~!!:))
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