ABC News: Soldiers give to Obama, lobbyists to Clinton

[featherman]

From ABC news:

"Another war opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was second (to Ron Paul) with about $94,000. Soldiers love Ron and Barack, and lobbyists love Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, the No. 1 recipient of lobbyist cash, receiving $823,000 in 2007 from the lobbying industry, which gave about $2.7 million overall."


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/military-donors.html

[angie_love]

1. Not surprising at all.

[jasmine621]

44. They should also include Obama's contributions from lobbyists. nt

[ingac70]

53. and Clinton's contributions from soldiers....

:rofl:

[Divernan]

72. Lawyers for Gitmo detainees endorse Obama as most likely to restore rule of law

This was posted earlier in the week on DU as an OP:
By Charlie Savage

More than 80 volunteer lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees today endorsed Illinois Senator Barack Obama's presidential bid.

The attorneys said in a joint statement that they believed Obama was the best choice to roll back the Bush-Cheney administration's detention policies in the war on terrorism and thereby to "restore the rule of law, demonstrate our commitment to human rights, and repair our reputation in the world community." The attorneys are representing the detainees in habeas corpus lawsuits, which are efforts to get individual hearings before federal judges in order to challenge the basis for their indefinite imprisonment without trial.

The attorneys praised Obama for being a leader in an unsuccessful fight in the fall of 2006 to block Congress from enacting a law stripping courts of jurisdiction to hear Guantanamo detainee lawsuits. The constitutionality of that law, which was part of the Military Commissions Act, is now being challenged before the Supreme Court in one of the most closely-watched cases this term.

"When we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the Administration's bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us," they wrote. "Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications of voting to preserve habeas corpus for the men held at Guantanamo. He has understood that our strength as a nation stems from our commitment to our core values, and that we are strong enough to protect both our security and those values. Senator Obama demonstrated real leadership then and since, continuing to raise Guantanamo and habeas corpus in his speeches and in the debates."

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http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligen...

[DebraK]

2. kick

[TexasObserver]

3. That's what happens when a politician sells out.

I don't judge Hillary for anything during the Clinton presidency. It is her actions and loyalties since becoming a senator and presidential aspirant that cause me to believe her heart is with those who fund her.

[Hieronymus]

9. Well said.

[GoldieAZ49]

4. Wow, that is nice to hear about our military

especially since he will be their commander in chief

Good for Obama

[Thrill]

5. THis needs to stay on the first page

[Diane R]

6. Fifth kick. I wish I could give it 20 more. This needs to be seen.

[TheWraith]

7. K&R. NT

[LadyVT]

8. But...

Obama's lobbyist money (and there is $75,000 or so of it from them) also comes from their wives (and it therefore doesn't show up as 'lobbyist' money).

[TeamJordan23]

10. Can you back that up with a link or support? nm

[emilyg]

14. Here it is

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:VTkdloSQk9kJ:blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/07/despite-rhetori.html+lobbyists+supporting+Obama&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=

[Indenturedebtor]

11. Yes it's all a big conspiracy

They give to HRC in the open so they can hide giving to Obama through their wives :tinfoilhat:

And I heard he goes hunting on the weekends with bullets made of frozen meat!

[yellerpup]

57. LOL!

That's what makes him so scary!

[DebraK]

12. kick. time to stop hillary's corruption

[DebraK]

13. kickkk it

[DebraK]

15. obama is for the troops, hillary is for insurance companies

[DebraK]

16. kick to stop hillary's disingenuous nature

[FrenchieCat]

17. Those troops with the small amount of money.......

give to Barack!

They are true patriots thru and thru! :patriot:

[DebraK]

18. the troops support barack, the corrupt insurance companies back hillary

[DebraK]

19. kick

[DebraK]

20. kick

[DebraK]

21. kickeroo

[DebraK]

22. kick

[DebraK]

23. kick

[DebraK]

24. kick

[ursi]

25. Damn! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!!!

[tishaLA]

26. wonderful

k&r

[Perry Logan]

27. Guys...ABC is enemy propoaganda. Remember?

[Barack_America]

28. Thanks. More evidence that I just woke my ass up so early this morning...

To volunteer for THE RIGHT GUY!

Woo hoo!

Gobama!

[my3boyz]

29. Military definately supports Obama over Hillary...

I think it might help out a lot in Virginia.

[krkaufman]

46. He was right on the war, for the right reasons. n/t

[DebraK]

30. kick

[Eric J in MN]

69. kick

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[DebraK]

31. kick

[DebraK]

32. kick

[DebraK]

33. kick

[Coexist]

34. because the want to come home,

and I think they love the thought of a timeline.

[DebraK]

35. Obama will bring the troops home, Clinton sent them there in the first place

It takes an Obama to cleanup after an idiotic Clinton vote.

[azmesa207]

68. If Obama

is needed to clean up after Clinton I ask all you Obama supporter why you didn't hold Kerry Idiotic vote for the war to the same degree about his vote as you do Clinton . One last thing if Obama was so against the war why did he keep voting to fund it , and Clinton never sent them to Iraq Bush did

[DebraK]

36. kick

[DebraK]

37. How much money has Clinton made off lobbyists? $50 million?

[DebraK]

38. Hillary is in bed with the corporate lobbyists

[ClintonTyree]

58. Spam much?

:eyes:

[MJPassion]

39. kick

[MJPassion]

40. kick

[originaldeanic]

41. kick

[debatepro]

42. Not suprised! K&R

I am glad we stuck with the high ground on this one.

[TexasObserver]

43. The troops support Obama!!

I am always amused by all the folks who have never served, but boy will they tell you about how they support the military and won't stand to hear anyone suggest that not all who have served are worthy of adoration. I served, and as anyone who has served knows, there are a lot screw ups in the military, and being in the military doesn't make them admirable. If you're a screw up before you go in, and a screw up after you get out, chances are you were a screw up while you were in the military.

See George W. Bush and John McCain, both guys who had to rely on their daddies and granddaddies.

[Nailzberg]

45. Kicking for the troops!

:patriot:

[debbierlus]

47. Uhm, lobbyists give to Obama as well.

This is a propanganda post. BOTH candidates are corporate. So, stop pretending otherwise.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

48. And slumlords?

[redqueen]

49. I see the recently-banned troll was all over this one, too.

How very, very odd.

:think:

[racaulk]

51. Debra sounded a lot like Ethel, didn't she?

Looked a lot like her too.

:evilgrin:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

52. That could be the spam filter.

Just saying.

[redqueen]

54. I sure hope not.

:)

[Carolina]

50. K&R

[shaniqua6392]

55. They have both taken money from lobbyists

and special interests. Unfortunately, that is the only way to win. I am sure they both got money from the military too.

[mod mom]

56. WOW- Note the soldiers give to the OPPONENTS OF THE WAR!

[sce56]

59. Ok my first and second choices have been marginalized by the media and have dropped out so I'm left

With finding the lesser of two evils! So I have to go with Obama and I say that since I dislike some of his words like we need to go into Pakistan to do what? Is it to find the real people behind 9-11 or just to act like they want to get Osama Bin Forgotten! Hillary is like GOP Lite and for those of you who don't believe it so was Bill! Here is from her own web site that she says she Admires and liked the administrations of the First Bush and Ronnie Raygun too!
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4674
"But no president can do it alone. She must break recent tradition, cast cronyism aside and fill her cabinet with the best people, not only the best Democrats, but the best Republicans as well.. We’re confident she will do that. Her list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. "

From the smirking chimp
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/news/12252

What Hillary Likes About Reagan Bush 41
Hillary likes the way Reagan-Bush negotiated the 1980 October Suprise with the Iranian Mullahs and GOT AWAY WITH IT.
Hillary loves the way Reagan stole Carter's debate briefing papers and got away with it.
Hillary loved the way the contra army killed tens of thousands of people in Nicaragua and especially all those Nicaraguan women that were GANG-RAPED BY THE CONTRA ARMY.
Hillary loves the way Reagan-Bush 41 & Bill Clinton GOT AWAY WITH ALL THE OLIVER NORTH CONTRA COCAINE SMUGGLING.GOOGLE THE TERM I VOLUNTEER TO KIDNAP OLIVER NORTH BY FORMER DEA AGENT MICHAEL LEVINE.
Hillary loves the way REAGAN-BUSH 41 GOT AWAY WITH ALL THE IRAN-CONTRA CRIMES WITHOUT BEING IMPEACHED.

Submitted by streetjustice2 on January 18, 2008 - 11:38pm.

[Joe Chi Minh]

60. That is certainly understandable. their situation seems so hideous

it is difficult to even think about their plight for more than a moment or two.

[lebkuchen]

61. Obama has been very responsive to NY soldiers' letters sent to him

asking for help. Obama's been right on it, and the word has gotten around.

[lebkuchen]

77. Oops. I mean IL soldiers headed for jobs in NY

and beyond.

[BringBigDogBack]

62. Kick.,

For all of the idiots who support the war authorization candidate...

[springhill]

63. Moderators...................

Why aren't posters like this one banned for calling other posters idiots. This should now be allowed, period.

[maximusveritas]

67. What about all the people

who use terms like Hillbots or Obamamatons?
This is a fine line.
I think as long as they're not calling someone in particular these names, it's not a bannable offense.

[springhill]

76. Huh?

They are just calling EVERYONE who supports Hillary an idiot. Not cool!

[flyinzamboni]

64. Interesting Article - Thanks!

The original article from the CRP is interesting, although it doesn't provide all the details one might like.

One thing I find a little strange is in the 2004 election that $880 million was raised yet only $718 million spent. Heck, what's $162 million between friends? :)

[ToughLuck]

65. Cheney in a pants suit Hillary..we knew this, now more will.

[Eric J in MN]

66. kick

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[Eric J in MN]

70. kick

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[Whisp]

71. k&r

[ProgressIn2008]

73. Both Clinton and Obama take lots of corporate money

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080204/pl_nm/usa_politics_campaign_finance_dc

Corporate presidential campaign giving surges

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Corporate America is pouring money into the U.S. presidential campaign at an unprecedented rate, with a torrent of donations coming from the businesses behind the subprime mortgage crisis.

Senators Clinton and Obama have each taken in more than $5 million from securities and investment firms; Republican Mitt Romney, over $4 million, and rival John McCain, $2 million.

Real estate has not been far behind, donating $4.8 million to New York's Clinton and $3.7 million to Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts.

Illinois' Obama has raked in $2.7 million, and Arizona Sen. McCain $1.9 million from real estate interests including mortgage brokers, homebuilders and property developers. Hedge funds and private equity, a new, independent-minded source of funds, has sunk $3.6 million into campaigns: $1.3 million to Clinton; $1 million to Obama; $837,000 to Romney, and $395,000 to McCain. But the private equity and hedge fund kingpins also bet big on drop-out Giuliani, donating more than $1.2 million to him.

That's the way the game works. It's not like one takes "bad" money and the other takes "good" money.

[KennedyGuy]

74. This Proud soldier supports Hillary

[stillrockin]

75. Army brats for Obama!!!!

:dem: