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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:30 PM
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Non-partisan group finds huge media bias against Senator Clinton.


Non-partisan group finds huge media bias against Senator Clinton.

http://www.cmpa.com/election%20news%202_1_08.htm

MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY”

NBC Is Toughest on Hillary; FOX Has Heaviest Coverage

Hillary Clinton is getting the worst press and Barack Obama the best press of any major presidential candidate, and Bill Clinton is also getting negative reviews, while the gap in good press between John McCain and Mitt Romney is narrowing, according to a new study of TV news election coverage by the Center for Media and Public Affairs. The study also finds that FOX’s evening news show had the most coverage of policy issues and the least coverage of the campaign horse race.

These results are from CMPA’s 2008 ElectionNewsWatch Project. They are based on a scientific content analysis of 765 election news stories (22 hours 15 minutes of airtime) that aired on the flagship evening news shows on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX (the first 30 minutes of “Special Report with Brit Hume”, which is most like the network news shows in content and presentation) from December 16, 2007 through January 27, 2008.

MAJOR FINDINGS:

Hillary Pilloried?

Since mid-December, when the presidential candidates turned their full attention to the Iowa caucuses, Sen. Barack Obama has led the race for good press and Sen. Hillary Clinton has lagged the farthest behind. From Dec 16 through Jan 27 five out of six on-air evaluations of Obama (84%) have been favorable, compared to a bare majority (51%) of evaluations of Mrs. Clinton. Examples:

“ message is one of change and reconciliation, not protest and looking back at old wounds.” – Donna Brazile, ABC

“In the face of two staggering defeats, two questions loom: Is Hillary’s campaign in crisis? And is a massive shakeup necessary?” – Brit Hume, FOX

The gap in good press has widened since the New Hampshire primary, with Clinton dropping to 47% positive comments and Obama holding steady at 83% positive. NBC’s coverage has been the most critical of Clinton – nearly 2 to 1 negative (36% positive and to 64% negative) Conversely, ABC’s coverage was most supportive -- nearly 2 to 1 positive (63% v. 37%). CBS and FOX were more balanced – 50% positive comments on FOX and 56% positive on CBS. Examples:..
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:32 PM
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1. It's clear who the Establishment candidate is.
The MSM, The Kennedys, John Kerry.

Obama is NOT a revolutionary candidate - he IS the status quo wrapped up in a shiny package.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
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3. ".....he IS the status quo wrapped up in a shiny package."
And Hillary gets the most corporate money because they feel sorry for her, right?
:eyes:
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:37 PM
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11. And Obama doesn't have any corporate money?
Sorry, but your argument holds no water. "she did it too" does NOT make Obama a "change candidate".
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #11
73. That myth (lie)--has been posted so many times that if I had a nickel of every time I would be rich!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
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25. and Obama gets $227,000 from Exelon Nuclear CORPORATION because he's just a nice guy, right?
:eyes:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. HOLY SHIT! Exelon? That's the same guy connected to AEI and the "health care" facts on his site!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #30
48. YUP! EXELON!
:grr:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:18 PM
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79. Obama lied to voters... On the take from Nuclear Industry... (NY T imes)


Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama lied to voters... On the take from Nuclear Industry... (NY T imes)
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4364922#4364922
4364922, Obama lied to voters... On the take from Nuclear Industry... (NY T imes)
Posted by CONN on Sun Feb-03-08 09:52 AM

When residents in Illinois voiced outrage two years ago upon learning that the Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants, the state’s freshman senator, Barack Obama, took up their cause.
<snip>
He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”
<snip>
The campaign did not directly address the question of why Mr. Obama had told Iowa voters that the legislation had passed.

Since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon, which is based in Illinois, have contributed at least $227,000 to Mr. Obama’s campaigns for the United States Senate and for president.

Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fund-raisers.

John W. Rowe, chairman of Exelon and also of the Nuclear Energy Institute, a lobbying group, has been an Obama donor.

Mr. Obama’s chief political strategist, David Axelrod, has worked as a consultant to Exelon.


U.S. / POLITICS | February 3, 2008
Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate
By MIKE McINTIRE
An Illinois controversy pitting two important constituencies against each other put Barack Obama’s legislative skills to the test.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?ex=1202706000&en=9b90278942ace89a&ei=5070&emc=eta1
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #30
99. Obama's deep ties to conservatives
That's where he's getting his money and policies.

And people are dumb enought to think he's a progressive. :eyes:

The more I learn about him, the less I like him.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
56. People love to say that about Clinton, but actually BO's record
is similar.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #3
57. People love to say that about Clinton, but actually BO's record
is similar.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
82. Hedging one's bets
if you have money on all possible options then you win something no matter what
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Obama himself would agree that he is not revolutionary
but reformist.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. I have seen the word "revolutionary" too many time to not think it is coming from the campaign.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #7
23. Here's where I picked this up.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/91755/output/print

This is what turned me from a tepid supporter to a die hard.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. to suggest your DLC candidate is NOT the status quo is ludicrous. WHO was it that tried to get Dean
taken out of the DNC?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. Hillary will work for change. Obama is just as much part of the status quo as she is.
Howard Dean should be fired for his horrible management.
He may have cost us the GE by alienating Florida voters.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
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22. Oh,she'll work for change like scrapping the 50State Strategy. She's not interested in Open Govt.
the Clintons won't even release their 2006 tax return.

And the rules Dean are enforcing are the ones set up by Clintons' crony Terry McAuliffe. You didn't bitch when Terry enforced those same rules.

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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. The 50 state strategy is a disaster.
McAuliffe was a disaster too.

But Howard Dean is not doing a very good job.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #28
62. 2006 disagrees.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. I sincerely hope you are kidding. All things considered, our gains were VERY modest
in 2006 - The gains in the house were downright depressing.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. And were far, far better than anyone expected when Dean took the chair.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #28
96. You HAVE to be kidding
Seriously, reality check here.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #22
61. Really they didn't. Oh that reminds me
will you email your return please i would like to look at it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. You mean the DLC co-chair who's accepted more lobbyist money than literally any other candidate?
Your gal, right?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. That doesn't seem to get in the way of your worshipping Kerry.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. Kerry is not DLC, never took PAC money n/t
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Fact check: Kerry is DLC.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. And it looks like he took PAC money too.....
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #34
51. Those are other politician's PAC's
Not special interest PAC's. And, no, John Kerry is not DLC.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #51
55. Why don't you look it up... he certainly is and writes an article in their magazine
just about every month.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #55
64. wow, here's a link to the magazine
http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ka.cfm?kaid=132

:shrug:

Hillary Clinton is DLC so I don't know why you're attacking John Kerry for it anyway, even though you're wrong.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. I'm not attacking him. I love the DLC - just pointing out that DLC members
support Obama.
Google "DLC John Kerry"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #66
74. Show me the articles
You said they were there every month.

NO, John Kerry is not DLC.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. I said "just about every month"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #78
84. One article in 2002??
Good bye.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. You are an absolute idiot. If you google you will find dozens of articles and that he is a member.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #19
35. Didn't vote for him in the primary.
He and Hillary are good Democrats, but that doesn't mean I can't find certain aspects of them disagreeable.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. It's a little ironic that a DLC corporate money whore supports Obama ..
or maybe I was right the first time.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. ...
:eyes:

Are you seriously suggesting that the endorsement of an establishment Democrat somehow makes Obama "more Establishment" than a DLC co-chair?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. I am suggesting that the Democratic Establishment supports Obama.
Whether or not the other candidate is also for the status quo is not my point.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #49
60. Some of it does. More of it supports Clinton. Clinton leads Obama in
lobbyist donations, in superdelegates, and in establishment endorsements.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. I've been saying this since Bill Clinton left office. He was despised
by the true Dem elite insiders. Poor, white, sourthern, white, genuine empathy and friendship with blacks....
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Yes, Bill was the insurgent candidate against the establishment.
The elites hate the Clintons and Love Obama.
Not sure why that is so hard for some to see.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #21
37. Which "elites?" She's wrapped up the most party insiders, and the most lobbyist funding.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #21
54. YES indeed! They HATED the Clintons because they were NOT Washington INSIDERS.
They were from Arkansas and the DC elite just couldn't stand that.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #54
63. They seem to have since gotten over it.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. You are either a trickster or ill informed.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #68
71. Who has picked up more superdelegates? Who has more insider endorsements? Who has more lobbyist
funding?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
81. From what I read here yesterday, Super delegates are pretty much up for grabs.
It seems as if the DC insiders are pissed at the Clintons for wanting the Super delegates and expecting them .....which just tells me, it's the excuse they plan to use when they don't vote for her (if it comes down to that), but we shall see.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #81
86. Be that as it may, more SDs have thrown in with her than with Obama--and they're
the voice of the establishment.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #86
90. But they haven't voted yet...have they?
We'll see what happens when push comes to shove.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #90
93. Are you proposing they're bluffing?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. I'm saying that if their votes are needed to decide this thing, they
will go with Obama because that's who the DC ELITES want.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #63
75. I don't think so.
Take Ted Kennedy as an example.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #75
76. She has more superdelegates and more endorsements than Obama does. Before TK, she
was practically sweeping the establishment board.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #76
83. See post #81. n/t
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. The Establishment candidate is McCain!!! thus, watch if it's Obama..I don't want to even mention the
stops they'll pull out...Think about it...All American, war veteran, white boy..good grief!
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:33 PM
Response to Original message
2. wow there's a shocker
the librul media is beating up on a clinton.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
69. They're beating up on Clinton because they want Obama to
go up against the Repbs.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM
Response to Original message
4. that title could pretty much sum up the last 17 years
of Clinton coverage..sad
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Rock_Garden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:35 PM
Response to Original message
6. Thanks, Rodeodance. Good reading.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. They''ll be saying the same thing about Obama's coverage in the general election
And ironically, they'll turn McCain into the Mandela of Reaganism.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
45. If he secures the nomination, maybe even before that - as soon as "bad Hillary"
would be disposed off, they'll turn on the remaining democrat.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:36 PM
Response to Original message
9. not surprised to see this. The modern news media cut it's teeth on the Clinton's hard asses
. . . and, made a fortune trashing them
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
10. I thought her greatest strength was that she could control the national debate.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. And which fantasy person said that? (eom)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. You must be new to the electability debate.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #39
59. You sound very dismissive.
Much like your candidate. I also notice you didn't answer the question - you only put your own spin on your own opinion.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
87. You do conjure up some good ones!!--
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:38 PM
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13. This is no suprise
Her campaign sucks wind. The only time she has driven a news cycle is when she cried. For suposedly the best political team on the planet they have run their campaign like amatures.
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 PM
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16. Not a "Non-partisan group", at all...
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Media_and_Public_Affairs

"However, as shown below, CMPA's claim to be non-partisan is incompatible with the fact that nearly all its funding comes from conservative foundations."

The question is, why are conservatives so concerned about Hillary getting bad coverage?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
27. why are conservatives so concerned about Hillary getting bad coverage?
Because their GE campaign has been set up to run against her since she first announced she would run for the Senate.

Theres a lot more skeletons in the Clinton closet than we know about, but you can bet the GOP knows them very well indeed.
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. Espessially this group...
.. they are top notch attack dogs. That what they do, attack PBS and Fahrenheit 9/11. Just the fact they ran this report means they are up to something.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
65. If we don't know about them...
how do you know they exist? What a duplicitous comment.

The GOP will have Obama for lunch.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #27
95. Destroy aura of critical thinking
Whether this election or the last, republicans have worked consistently to undermine the notion that people make rational choices in elections. They like the meme that one is necessarily biased if they express an opinion in favor of or against one candidate. Anyone who criticizes a republican is, thereby, biased and has an agenda. It helps their candidates make appeals that are populist and xenophobic.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:48 PM
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43. Good link, thanks. Joke site really, could've been able to tell by looking at it.
Erm, by "joke site" I mean the CMPA or whatever it's called.
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 PM
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53. Yeah people need to watch their sources [nt]
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 PM
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18. I believe this is the report Dan Abrams brought up last night. He's
been giving them hell about it for a couple of weeks. Even mentioned KO's slant one night.
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
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24. These are the same people who attacked PBS..
.. it was started by Pat Buchanan and Pat Robertson.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM
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32. Dan Abrams
...has been a not very transparent Hillary supporter since the primaries began.

Funny, I never hear the Hillary (or even Obama) supporters railing against him for his bias like they do on any number of news people.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:48 PM
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44. did he really mention KO's Obama fest? It's predictable, He does take sides.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:49 PM by bigtree
He was an early Clinton critic. Very snarky, back in the days when the media first started pumping up their viewership with anti-Clinton punditry.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM
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26. It's because she has run the worst Dem campaign
I've seen in my lifetime. She has deserved every piece of negative press she's gotten. If it were truly fair, it would have been so negative she'd have been shamed out of the race completely.

Voter disenfranchisement ought to disqualify ANY Democratic candidate.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:47 PM
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38. Jives in with that earlier harvard study I posted - pre New Hampshire I guess
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:51 PM by robbedvoter

Obama: 47% positive, 16% negative.
Clinton: 27% positive, 38% negative.
McCain: 12% positive, 48% negative
Giuliani: 28% positive, 37% negative
JDNE

Net numbers

Obama +31
Giuliani -9
Clinton -11
McCain -36

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4316569

adding radio here as well:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:47 PM
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40. It couldn't actually be because Obama is running a tighter, smarter
campaign, could it?

Hillary's campaign is completely poll driven - which means she speaks to what the people were saying LAST week, instead of guiding them into NEXT week. Her chief advisor is Mark Penn, a crooked pollster who tried to rig the polls in Venezuela against Chavez, when then won his election by a significant majority.

Besides, look at the numbers you gave there:
NBC -- 36% pos to 64% neg
ABC -- 63% pos to 37% neg
CBS -- 50% pos
FOX -- 56% pos

Doesn't exactly back up your theme. She may be faring worse tha Obama but she is nonetheless getting far more positive than negative press. She has, however, been running a clumsy campaign, and the numbers reflect that.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:48 PM
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42. this comes as no suprise to me.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:51 PM
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47. I'll bet ya most of Edwards' supporters see it, too. (nt)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 PM
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52. well the media was terrible with edwards. most people didnt even know he was running
till december/jan
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:25 PM
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89. yes, they were terrible.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:51 PM
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50. We've known this all along. She still comes out a winner.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM
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58. Every time
I turned on CNN and MSNBC yesterday and today the first two words I heard were Barack Obama.

I emailed CNN and asked them when they were announcing the name change of the Network to BNN....Barack News Network, all Barack, all the time, no detail too minute to report, answering the burning question of boxers or briefs.

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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:12 PM
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72. Would that be the same media that propped up the Chimp for 7 years? /eom
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:17 PM
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77. Maybe there is more negative news on her because....
she is running a bad campaign against a quality opponent. If she was a tenth the politician that Obama is she never would have given up her insurmountable lead.

Most news stories about Huckabee are negative or skeptical...with good reason.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:18 PM
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80. Probably true, and another reason not to vote for her, imo. nt
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:22 PM
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85. The press loved her for the last 2 years.
Seems to me atleast, Hillary is all you ever heard about for the last year and a half. Never a peep on the other candidates. I think it's bandwagoning.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:28 PM
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92. ALL negative coverage. Have you seen Media Matter's take on the Hillary coverage?
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 01:29 PM by in_cog_ni_to
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:37 PM
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98. Wow, you've been working hard the last 2 days.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 01:38 PM by cottonseed
:) I agree, Mathews is a worm, but this guy was pumping Hillary (for good and bad) for quite some time now.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:47 PM
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102. :) I recognized you. :) Did you go to the site? It's a real eye opener.
:hi:
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:27 PM
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91. NO!!!! Really? Bashing? I don't believe it. n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:36 PM
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97. It's been there for about 16 years, IIRC
One of the reasons I don't want her to be our nominee.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:42 PM
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100. In other news today: Sky up, water wet.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:44 PM
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101. It's sad to see so many Democrats who hate the Clintons, largely because they were told to do so.
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