AZ robocall for Clinton (well against Obama by the Clinton campaign)

[Debi]

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/az_robocall_hit.html#comments

AZ Robocall Hits Obama On Social Security
Per NJ Contributing Editor Linda Douglass, this call is reportedly going out to Arizona voters:

WOMAN: This is Ann calling on behalf of Hillary Clinton for President. Hillary Clinton has been a tireless fighter for seniors . Barack Obama has said when it comes to Social Security all options should be put on the table. That includes raising the retirement age and cutting benefits. He has even proposed raising Social Security taxes by a trillion dollars. Hillary Clinton stood up to Bush’s plan to privatize Social Security and is against raising the retirement age. When you go to the polls tomorrow cast your vote for the Democrat committed to protecting Social Security as we know it: Hillary Clinton.

[Neecy]

1. my sister in MO got a similar mailing yesterday

She was furious - the implication was that he'd raise SS taxes on *everyone*, not just those above the cap. Very misleading.

My 72 year old mother is caucusing for Obama tonight because she likes his proposal to eliminate income taxes for seniors who make under 50K a year. That's something solid to help them, Senator Clinton.

[Debi]

3. I'm trying to find a link to the mailer - it went out in AZ as well

(A state I thought Clinton had locked up but by her negative campaign tactict I guess not)

[demokatgurrl]

2. You mean to tell me

that a politician's campaign is actually making robocalls? Here in 2008? and telling the person about an issue where the candidate differs with another candidate, and says that the candidate for whom the call is being made is better on that issue? And that the person being called should vote for the candidate for whom the call is being made?


Wow, what dirty politics.

:sarcasm: just in case it wasn't obvious

[Debi]

4. Yes, and putting out negative mailings

[demokatgurrl]

7. I am shocked. SHOCKED!!!

See I thought Clinton would be out there telling everyone how great Obama is, and that Obama would be out there telling everyone how great Clinton is.

[Debi]

8. Especially after her campaign manager told the media how wonderful of a Vice-President

Obama will make for her.

[Thrill]

5. Same old pathetic tricks

[Debi]

9. Yep, nothing NEW from the Clinton machine n/t

[MADem]

6. Ann WHO??? Jack Nicholson is robo-calling, but who is gonna sit through

a call from some ANN?

Sounds like disinfo to me! If people are getting RILED about the call, perhaps it is DESIGNED to rile lazy or 'unlikely voter' Obama supporters to get out and vote?

Sometimes things aren't always what they seem on the surface.

[Debi]

10. Whoever wrote post #6

I have you on Ignore because you asked me to put you on ignore - please quit responding to my threads after you ASKED me to put you on ignore. So rude.

[Sanctified]

11. Wow not only is Ann Coulter supporting hillary but she is doing the Robocalls.

:sarcasm:

[Debi]

12. Hey, a vote's a vote. n/t

[Jennicut]

13. I got Hillary's negative robo call in CT and a postive one for Obama

Obama's call was from the CT Dem party treasurer or something like that and only mentioned postive things about change, a new way of doing things in Washington, bringing the country together. I got Hillary's negative mailing as well. I don't mind postive calls and mailings but I don't like distortion.

[demokatgurrl]

15. Did you get Obama's negative mailing?

The one about health insurance?

[IndieLeft]

29. If it's true, it's true.

she DOES plan to garnish wages. She said it plainly on one show, and eluded to it on another.

[Debi]

17. But I thought they were friends?

That's what she said on Letterman

[TexasObserver]

14. And that is why so many Democrats have had it with them

I am so sick of the Clintons approach, which is say anything to gain advantage today, and do it when it's too late for anyone to prove they're lying. AGAIN.

Go Teddy. Go Obama. Save the party from the Clintons.

[Debi]

18. Exactly what I told Mr. Debi

We know what kind of a White House we'll have with the Clintons there. With Obama we have a chance at it being better.

[TexasObserver]

27. the leopard cannot change his spots

And the Clintons cannot change their mindset. It's destructive to the party in the primary. Teddy was right to call them down on it.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Mark Penn is to The Clintons what Karl Rove was to The Bushes ...

;)

[scheming daemons]

25. No.... Mark Penn isn't as good at it as Rove....

...they have the same ethic, though.

Rove was just more effective at it.

[Debi]

28. Penn demanding one debate a week from now til March 4th

If he cut his consulting fees maybe Clinton could afford to advertise in the upcoming states and not rely on free media.

Hold a fucking love-fest on national television and then do the negative mail/calls. No two faces about it!

[VolcanoJen]

26. That is exactly right.

It's so damned frustrating.

[Radical Activist]

Oh the good old scare seniors about social security tactic.

Its normally used by Republicans but its a familiar game. More of the same old ugly politics from Clinton.

[Debi]

20. Exactly n/t

[NJSecularist]

16. Can't say I am suprised

This is standard fare dirty Clinton machine politics. Karl Rove would be proud.

[Debi]

19. Yep

Negative mail pieces mailed out and negative robocalls made BEFORE the public can react in anger. Of course it could back-fire on her in the Feb 9th and Feb. 12th states.

[MonkeyFunk]

24. LOL

there's nothing dirty about it at all.

It's a call outlining differences between the candidates - it's done all the time.

The fake outrage over something like this is humorous.

[cali]

21. So the Clinton campaign spews lies

not exactly breaking news.

[Debi]

22. Is this LBN?

:P

That's why I posted it here.