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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:44 PM
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Republican crap being pulled in Utah.
In Utah, when you go to vote, you're asked if you want to vote Republican or Democrat in this primary, since both primaries are today. Well I've heard news from family members on the west side of the Salt Lake Valley, more conservative than Salt Lake City, who went to vote and asked for a Democratic ballot and were told they can't vote! Unbelievable. Some man, in his 60s, demanded they call the police because of this and they finally let him vote, but wouldn't let his family.

I'm also hearing from people when they ask for a Democratic ballot, the voting officials snap back and ask them if they REALLY want to vote Democratic and if they know they can vote Republican instead. This is fucking trash!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:49 PM
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1. Republicans cheat everywhere in every election.
It's part of their strategy and has been for the past 50 years. Rehnquist and O'Connnor earned their places on the Supreme Court by doing that crap for 30 years.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:52 PM
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2. Probably Mormon poll workers. Are there any Mormon Democrats? n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:53 PM
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3. Yeah, not many, but there are some.
Especially in the blue collar towns.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:54 PM
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4. Yeah, there's a few around.
I don't count Harry Reid though. He's more of a Mormon invertebrate.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:01 PM
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6. I think Harry's like my dad's family - Mormon in name only.
They call them "jacks".

Remember, he's pro-woman and pro-choice. That viewpoint is fundamentally incompatible with being a true-believing Mormon.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:12 PM
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10. Harry Reid is pro-life
He has a terrible rating on abortion. I don't know how he is on women's issues generally.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:19 PM
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12. No, Reid is very much LDS.
He attends church, does not drink tea, coffee or alcohol and doesn't smoke.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:24 PM
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16. He also had a front row seat at Gordon B. Hinckley's...
funeral on Saturday. Right in front of Mitt Romney, and next to Leavitt(?)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:34 PM
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18. Well, my guess is that, as a convert, he lacks the theocracy gene.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:23 PM
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15. No, I think Harry is still pretty actively involved in the church
I don't know if it's still the case, but at one time he taught a sunday school class in his ward in the DC area.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:00 PM
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5. I doubt it. Any UT Mormon who actually attends church would probably
get excommunicated if it were found out they were Dem.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:04 PM
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7. Not true.
Gov. Rampton, long considered Utah's greatest governor, died recently and had a huge funeral at a Stake House. He attended church every week and was very close with a few biggies in the Mormon Church.

He was also a Democrat.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:06 PM
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8. also the Udall Family
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:18 PM
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11. And the Matheson family.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:20 PM by Drunken Irishman
Governor Scott Matheson was a progressive Democrat who fought for the government to take accountability for nuclear testing in Nevada -- which eventually took his life (cancer).
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:32 PM
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17. Rampton may have been a registered Dem, but I note with some
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:33 PM by kestrel91316
irony that he was governor of UT when I lived there in 1969-72. I also distinctly recall that, while I was there, the UT legislature somehow managed to pass the infamous Sunday Closing Law, which fortunately was found unconstitutional.

As you can see, he ALLOWED the law by failing to veto it the second time it passed. SHAME on him.
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http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600106453,00.html
The Legislature passed a Sunday closing bill in 1967, but then-Gov. Calvin L. Rampton vetoed it. It passed another in 1970, which Rampton allowed to become law without his signature. But 3rd District Judge Leonard W. Elton ruled it unconstitutional in an oral announcement. He died the next day without having signed his orders.

The Utah Supreme Court later upheld Elton's ruling that the Sunday closing law was unconstitutional. No other statewide Sunday closing bill has ever again become law in Utah, even though a 1961 U.S. Supreme Court decision allows "secular" mandatory day-of-rest closing laws.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:08 PM
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9. The Udalls, expecially Morris--and they are still active.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 03:15 PM by blondeatlast
Political career
In 1961 his brother Stewart Udall, the congressman for Arizona's second congressional district, was appointed Secretary of the Interior in the Kennedy administration. Mo Udall was elected to fill his brother's vacant seat and would go on to be reelected for 14 terms.

During his tenure in Congress, Udall was best-noted for his championship of environmentalist causes. He was also known for his devotion to campaign finance reform and the welfare of Native Americans. He authored the Alaska Lands Act of 1980, which doubled the size of the national parks system, as well as legislation concerned with protecting archeological finds, enacting civil service reform, legalizing Indian casinos, and providing for the safe disposal of radioactive waste.

In 1979, Udall was diagnosed with incurable Parkinson's disease. By 1991, his health had deteriorated to the point where he was forced to resign from Congress. He died on December 12, 1998 of complications from his illness.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Udall

I had the honor and pleasure of meeting this strong, funny, and oh-so-brilliant politician and I will never forget his smile and laugh as long as I live--and a damn fine basketball player too!

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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:21 PM
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14. I am!
And I think what those election workers are doing is unethical AND immoral. I hope anyone who this is happening to is taking down names.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:20 PM
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13. Ah, that's just tradition!
You should hear some of the crap I hear working elections down here.

It's fuggin SCARY.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:35 PM
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19. Has Rocky Anderson endorsed anyone?
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ldsracer Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:39 PM
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20. I'm a Mormon
I know Mormons are mostly Rep. because of the moral issues, but I for one am a democrat because of the moral issue of war. I can't see any good in the rep. party. Spending and killing doesn't match my beliefs and frankly I don't see how other Mormons can even support a Romney or Mccain. Churches by law cannot support any party or candidate, and in my life as a Mormon, no political agenda has ever been discussed and especially not forced. I'm not sure what's the problem with the poll workers in Utah but it's not a Mormon thing, It's a Republican thing.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 03:51 PM
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21. Welcome to DU!
And don't take most of the people here too seriously!

:headbang:
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:52 PM
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22. I am, too, Welcome to DU
Did you notice that is a rhyme?

Anyway, post often. We need all the LDS democrats we can get. :-)
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