Here's One Presidential Candidate Not Afraid To Take A Picture With Gavin Newsom

[ruggerson]

[FrenchieCat]

1. Well, ye-AH.......I mean, he insured that she could run for Prez in 2008......

Since in February of 2004, he set things up real nice for......

11 Same sex marriage Bans passed

1 Democratic Presidential Ticket defeated

2 Conservative Supreme Court Justice installed for life

[ruggerson]

5. That's only if you buy the homophobic "gays cost us the '04 election" argument

I don't.

[yardwork]

10. I've made a point of remembering the poster who just made that point.

[robbedvoter]

15. That was to cover the "Kerry won but gave it up" reality - his silence allowed

for a lot of idiocies to be spouted by both party - I forgot about that one!

[FrenchieCat]

17. No.....I buy that IF Gavin would have waited till after that 2004 election.....

then there wouldn't be 2 conservative judges sitting on my Supreme Court for the rest of the fucking life....where any case dealing with Gay Marriage is gonna end up.

If you can't see that, I'm sorry for you.

I don't fault the Gay Community.
I fault a certain Mayor that took it upon himself to bring the issue to the fore.

I remember the times well.

[yardwork]

20. And you don't see a contradiction between that view and your "hope" log?

So evidently it's ok to hope for something as long as you don't stand up for it?

[FrenchieCat]

25. Nope. Timing is everything!

Guess you didn't really care to actually get something accomplished?

Can you tell me what was done that advance the cause of the Gay community by Gavin Newsome?

11 Same sex marriage Bans passed

1 Democratic Presidential Ticket defeated

2 Conservative Supreme Court Justice installed for life

[ruggerson]

22. What happened to the FIERCE URGENCY OF NOW?

That's not good for gays and lesbians?

[jackson_dem]

31. Gavin was on the Massachusetts Supreme Court?

[ronnykmarshall]

34. Yeah!

Them god-damn pushy fags!

[yardwork]

8. Gavin Newsom did this all by himself! He's more powerful than the Clenis

What a powerful, evil man Gavin Newsom is.

[robbedvoter]

16. Hey, hey! Let's not get carried away - NOBODY beats the Mighty Clenis!

:+

[yardwork]

19. That's what I thought but today it's all about this guy Gavin Newsom

and how he single-handedly blew the 2004 election by standing up for gay rights. What an evil thing to do.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Well I won't mind giving the Gav-cock a test ride.

:evilgrin:

[rinsd]

14. Standing up for gay marriage is wrong. Donnie McClurkin as MC was overblown.

Obama supporters should be ashamed of themselves.

[nonconformist]

21. Yeah, how dare those damn gays... wanting equality and respect.

Obama is clearly the candidate for you.

[jackson_dem]

30. What a bigoted post. Now we know why French loves Obama so much

Ladies and gents, I present to you the real Frenchiecat:

[MrMickeysMom]

2. Who's he?

[Clintonista2]

7. Pro gay rights mayor, who Obama refuses to have a picture taken with

[MrMickeysMom]

13. thanks... I'm going to SF in a few weeks, so I'm ahead of the game... :-)

[FrenchieCat]

23. The mayor that screwed his Best Friend's wife......

but before that, decided in February of 2004 to allow Gays to marry. That was a nice thing to do, just bad timing.

The result of Mr. Newsome's inpiration?

11 Same sex marriage Bans passed

1 Democratic Presidential Ticket defeated

2 Conservative Supreme Court Justice installed for life

Effect in advancing gay rights?

....Priceless, NOT.

[yardwork]

3. Now we're going to hear about how Newsom is worse than Dick Cheney.

He's worse than George W. Bush. Apparently Gavin Newsom is worse than Hitler and it's a sign of integrity that Obama refused to have his photo taken with him!

[Cant trust em]

11. just to be clear

I loathe Gavin Newsom, but I'd rather have Gavin be my mayor than GWB.

[yardwork]

18. Do you loathe all the Republicans that Obama reaches out to just as much?

Why is it ok for Obama to have his picture taken smiling and shaking hands with some of the worst people on earth but it's good that he dissed Gavin Newsom because Newsom isn't really all that progressive?

[Cant trust em]

24. It's a different scene

I admit that much of my disdain for Newsom is personal. No national republican has ever blown me off when I tried to say hello to him at an event. Gavin Newsom has lied to me on a more direct level on something I have personally worked on here in San Francisco. I often wonder about what kind of politician he would be like if he were on the national scene and didn't represent me so directly.

[Cant trust em]

4. Did you read this?

Newsom freely admits, "It's been a little awkward with the Kerry campaign, '' adding that "the last thing (Kerry) needs is being seen close to me.''

Why?

"Because you'd all ask about 'the issue' -- gay marriage,'' Newsom said. "And I don't think this candidate wants to answer that question.

"We're respectful of that,'' Newsom added. "We'll stay in the background -- you know, arrive late, exit early and move on.''


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/06/27/BAG0T7CULO1.DTL&hw=Newsom+Democrats+gay&sn=016&sc=426

But now that it's Super Tuesday let's make hay about this for the candidate I didn't endorse.

[MrMickeysMom]

12. Now I know who he is... "the gayest straight mayor in San Fran"

[FrenchieCat]

26. How's that? What makes him gay? The fact that he set the issue of gay marriage back about 20 years

11 Same sex marriage Bans passed

1 Democratic Presidential Ticket defeated

2 Conservative Supreme Court Justice installed for life

[Bjorn Against]

36. Yeah, because we all know that allowing gay marriage sets gay marriage back

:wtf:

If you say it was the wrong time for Newsom to give gay couples equal rights, than when would the right time for equal rights be? Somehow I have a feeling that if he had waited until after 2004 people would be telling him to wait until after 2006, then wait until after 2008, 2010, and on and on and on. If everyone waited for the right political moment then we would never make progress on anything controversial.

And by the way it is wrong to blame gays seeking equal rights for George Bush. Period.

[William769]

6. Out of the two running in our Presidential primary.

The one Pictured, is NOT the BIGOT!

[zabet]

27. Exactly!!

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

29. Bingo

[Faygo Kid]

9. Too bad Weekly World News is gone. I like the flying saucer over her head.

Maybe those articles about Bill meeting with the aliens had something to them after all . . .

[ruggerson]

32. It looks like

the kind of hat Lucy Ricardo would wear

[Faygo Kid]

38. That, too. I also thought about them standing before a dead giant squid, and that's the eye.

Can you see that one, too?

I like your call, as well.

[Carni]

40. You stole my freaking line!

Yeah I know YOU - you're watching sci-fi at 10 PM on Wednesday nights like I am LOL

[Faygo Kid]

42. I owe ya one.

[rodeodance]

28. Good for her!

[Carni]

33. Why is there a flying saucer over Hillary's head? NT

[Iceburg]

37. Its a very large halo! /nt

[Carni]

39. It could be! LOL NT

[Jed Dilligan]

41. Birds of a feather

Privileged rich kids who think the world owes them power and glory.

[mhatrw]

43. Wow! Hillary is willing to pose with Getty Oil's Boy!

Whotta surprize!

[kdpeters]

44. Wow!! It only took her nearly four years to come around

Meanwhile, back in 2004 she's just as silent and absent on the issue as were all the other national Democrats letting Newsom twist in the wind out there alone. At least she finally had that picture made with Mayor Newsom three and a half years after the fact demonstrating that she will stand by you when she needs you most.