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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:24 PM Original message |
But, gentle orthodoxist, if misandry doesn't exist, why did 1 in 4 women... |
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splat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Identity politics is more acceptable than misogyny |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. What's the difference? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It's like the old tried and true blue eye, brown eye experiment with kids. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Men lie more. nt |
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splat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. For vs. against |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. That's an interesting nuance. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Sounds like what I've heard... "want a woman in the White House"... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. While understandable to have an affinity to see "one of your own"... |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. hummina wha? |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Sorta the opposite end of the spectrum from the Iron Lady, eh. n/t |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yes. And curiously, never the comparison that one hears from a certain campaign. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Not sure anyone would know who she's talking about. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Wetware. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Precisely. What a wonderful concept ... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deal. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Our hero/heroine will, of course, be the rugged individualist/luddite ... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 05:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Oh. Yeah. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 05:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I'm thinking we can get some WGA writers to help us w/ the script on the cheap!! |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Careful. I grew up in a UMWA family. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. There is no cold without heat... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Tsunami Tuesday provided a bit of tension relief. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I'm packing any stray luck into a pack for storage ... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. I know what you mean. It's like saying... "I'm glad Paris Hilton is getting all the media attention, |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I hate being a one-trick pony ... |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Pardon the interruption, but NMFA.org - National Military Family Association - has some fine info... |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Thanks, Dave. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Same coin. To that extent, I agree. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. . |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. I Am So Sick and Fucking Tired Of Your Misogynist Horsecrap |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. No, that's a logical fallacy. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Then Allow My To Put It This Way |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'll be the first to admit... |
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Uncle Sinister (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. So by extension, my vote for Clinton is because I'm secretly a racist? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No. All wrens are birds, but not all birds are wrens. Each word one beat. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 05:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. yes I have heard the word "misandry" before |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Looks like you're the one who needs to grow up or get out of the sandbox. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. We tried that for about 6000 years. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. I like both my parents just fine. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
36. Yes, I Have Heard That Word |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. For real. |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. Do we know how gender played a role for male or females? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. That would be worth delving into more deeply. Some progressive men, for instance... |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. My guess is it went like this |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. The downtrodden get a break on bigotry |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The innermost kernel that explains why I'm raising this issue... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
30. So women voting for Hillary means unequivically that they hate men? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. No, absolutely not. Objective analysis of any dataset usually parses finer than that. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Well, I don't think anyone here has really suggested that not voting for Hill makes you misogynist. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
32. Who says it doesn't "exist?" |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
37. There are those who want equality, |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. and some want justice. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. And some want vengeance. |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
43. Isn't this all very hard to gauge... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. Please source your opening quote. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Ornery cuss... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. It is hardly an end-run to suggest that without better source, the "hook" of misandry is weak. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
50. Political analyst Sherry Bebitch Jeffe just said on MSNBC women in CA voted for HRC out of guilt. |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. If guests like her have data-driven insights... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. So are you saying that women are more likely to be stupid? |
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CorpGovActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Non sequitur. |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. Of course misandry exists |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You only have to wait 10-15 years |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
61. maybe they wanted to vote for a woman |
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