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Tue Feb-05-08 09:42 PM
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Obama doing better than Hillary in states with the highest proportion of conservative Democrats |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 09:43 PM by jackson_dem
Obama's best states are the ones with the highest proportion of Al From types (Kansas, Idaho, Utah, North Dakota). How can this be? I thought Hillary is tailor made for DLC kind of Democrats while Barack is a progressive saint? :shrug:
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:44 PM
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1. I bet a bunch of congressmen are going to figure out which side their bread is buttered on. |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:14 PM
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19. You folks keep thinking that the Clintons are regarded as insiders elites. |
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They are not. They never have been. They are hated by these people.
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:44 PM
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2. So Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Arkansas are bastions of liberalism now? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:47 PM
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3. AR is her home state. OK and TN are neighbors |
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Her winning OK as as surprising as Barack winning Iowa or Indiana. In ND, Idaho, and Utah neither candidate has a built in advantage. Obama's KS numbers are higher than normal because he has some ties to it.
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:50 PM
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5. I'm not sure what your point is then. |
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Hillary does well in red states because she has ties to them, and Obama does well in Kansas because he has ties and in others because?
I'd also like to point out that if Obama does well in these predominantly white states it certainly kills the Clintonian meme of him being the "black candidate."
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:53 PM
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7. Look at what happens in Utah, Idaho, and North Dakota tonight |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:01 PM by jackson_dem
The point? Obama is as centrist/DLC or as liberal as Hillary is. That is why he does so well with the most conservative Democrats. If he were as progressive as people think he is relative to Hillary he would be losing these states, not dominating them.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:18 PM
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22. Care to explain Obama's good showing in CT, genius? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:50 PM
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4. I hate to say it, but Tennessee is not known for liberal attitudes towards people of color. |
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I lived there for quite a few years. Not surprising to me they'd back Hillary. I don't consider this a major feather in her cap.
Look at the ads in Tennessee that were aired against whoever the Dem candidate was that lost the Senate race. I can't even remember his name now :(
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:51 PM
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:54 PM
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:13 PM
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14. As a black woman that lived in Tennesse briefly let me say... |
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It is a scary, backward place....and colored folk should be scared...lmao
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:01 PM
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9. Perhaps conservative Democrats are not voting. n/t |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:02 PM
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10. Why? They are as real Democrats as anyone else |
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They vote too. DU is not the Democratic Party.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:10 PM
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12. Why? Perhaps some conservative Democrats believe Clinton and Obama are just too liberal on issues |
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that divide the Democratic Party and the nation.
Since Clinton and Obama are effectively the only two candidates, their only choice is not to vote. :shrug:
That's just my opinion.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:14 PM
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16. They vote every other year. Why not this time? |
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Clinton and Obama aren't much more liberal than Kerry and Gore were.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:54 AM
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:03 PM
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11. so liberal dems are voting for clinton? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:43 PM
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26. No. Liberal Dems are voting for Obama. |
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Clinton is cleaning up with Conservative Democrats. Both according to CNN exit polls.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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27. yet she is winning in liberal states more than conservative states? |
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somehow that doesnt compute
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:12 PM
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13. Strangely, Hillary does best in blue state rural areas |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:13 PM
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15. Consider that Obama had the most liberal record in the Senate last year |
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That's a good thing that conservative dems see past the charade that Hillary puts forth.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:14 PM
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17. is Minnesota known for conservative Democrats? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:38 PM
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24. nope - so much for that theory! |
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:14 PM
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18. Democrats in the south usually don't have a choice. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:17 PM by mmonk
It's mostly legend sold by the party apparatus.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:15 PM
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20. How is it your dear St John of the Hedge Fund |
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is only clocking in in conservative states? How is it that Obama is competitive in CT.
What a profoundly stupid and hateful post from a real hater.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:42 PM
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25. That you are attacking John Edwards in a thread that isn't about him, where he hasn't been mentioned |
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and he's no longer even in the race, tells me all I need to know about YOU.
Obamania has really made some people lose their fucking mind around here.
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:15 PM
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21. Those are states with the lowest percentage of Democrats too. nt |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:15 PM by Jim4Wes
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Tue Feb-05-08 10:34 PM
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23. Conservatives have supported Obama, Obama goes |
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