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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:41 PM
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CA withstanding, tonight has been about as large of a Landslide for Obama as one could expect
He's won by HUGE margins, in more states then Hillary.Plus, he has the only upset so far (CT). I feel very good about his chances going forward, due to the fact that the schedule slows down a bit and he can now pick off states one at a time, which has been his strong suit so far.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:42 PM
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1. I am still watching AZ, NM, UT
If HRC wins those and CA, that dampens my mood
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:43 PM
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UT has been called for Obama already
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:12 PM
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35. Obama is the projected winner of UT. n/t
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:42 PM
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2. ...but Hillary has won some big states...

I'm for Obama, but I'm just saying...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:43 PM
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4. and Obama has met the 40% threshold in all of them, even her home state
He's done everything anyone could have hoped for and then some.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:48 PM
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18. what's the 40% threshold?

I agree. He's done absolutely great, and I think he can win.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:52 PM
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21. It means that, basically, the delegates are split down the middle in those states.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:54 PM
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22. He hasn't in TN.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:59 PM by William769
On EDIT: Or OK.

ON SECOND EDIT: or AR or AZ.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:33 PM
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37. No it doesn't
it depends on where the votes were cast and the rules of the state and actual facts - we might not know for days what the final delegate count is....

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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:43 PM
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3. I think MA was a bit of an upset.
So much for the Kerry/Kennedy tag team.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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11. Obama gained bigtime
in MA after the Kennedy endorsement. Strategically, it is a victory for Obama.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:47 PM
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17. LOL nt
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:47 PM
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16. Bullshit! Kerry/Kennedy helped Obama substantially in MA, where Obama was not supposed to win.
IF Obama would have won MA, it would have been an upset.

Bless the efforts of Kerry/Kennedy! Thank you so very much! :grouphug:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:00 PM
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24. Woohoo! all around good news for Obama!
:woohoo:
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:44 PM
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5. Was Minn also an upset for Obama?
GoBama!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:49 PM
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20. Last week, Hillary was up 7%
And Obama won by 30% tonight. Either that poll from ten days ago is way off, or Hillary lost a lot of ground in that space in time.

Obama had a 20,000+ person rally this past week, which probably played a large part of it.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:09 AM
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38.  Kerry & Kennedy endorsements have WEIGHT in MN.
A wonderful True Liberal state (Humphrey...Wellstone...Mondale).


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:44 PM
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6. Hey Wolsh...
I love your optimism.

Obama is doing well.

Considering that Obama has come from behind in several states, he is
doing very well.

Onward and upward...
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:44 PM
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7. I'm just having fun recalling some of our DU friends that kept saying Obama would only win IL.
Chumps.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:44 PM
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8. Doesn't do any good when HC increases her delegate count.
Will have to wait until tonite is over to see the delegate results.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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10. He's met the 40% threshold just about everywhere. Nobody expected him to win EVERY state
nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:08 PM
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30. Where does that leave him with delegates?
Doesn't do any good to meet the threshold if the delegate count doesn't narrow.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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9. As an Obama supporter, I'm not seeing a clear winner, but..
If Obama wins the total delegate count and the total state count, this will be very bad for Hillary. I just don't know that I see that happening.
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Clintonite Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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12. Are you fucking serious!?!?! All the momentum that Obama had going into tonite?
All the endorsements Obama ha gotten from all the newspapers and governors!?? The 24 hour media coverage for Obama. Get fucking real! Hillary has stopped his momentum in its tracks!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:48 PM
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19. Remember 10 days ago when Obama was only leading in IL and GA?
Yeah, I'm fucking serious.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:07 PM
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29. Let's talk again after NEXT week's endorsements. :) nt
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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13. A tie (without even considering the state with massive absentee voters) is a landslide?
Que?
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:46 PM
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14. Missouri is the bellweather
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:47 PM
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15. Hard to call it a landslide without getting one of NJ or Mass, but he's done REALLY well. n/t
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:55 PM
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23. MA is a disappointment, NJ could have been better, but other than that, I agree
He's performing right up to reasonable expectations.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:01 PM
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25. A split decision=landslide?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:03 PM
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26. So far he has more delegates then Hillary
Whats split about that?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:11 PM
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34. 5% more?
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 11:11 PM by jackson_dem
Let's see what CA says.

mcCain won. Obama and Hillary split.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:04 PM
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27. It is no landslide but it does appear that Obama will end up with more delegates by the end of the
night. Still, I think Obama now needs Pennsylvania, Ohio and Maryland to counter the wins of Clinton in New York, New Jersey, and Mass.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:05 PM
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28. Super-delegates will give it to Hillary...
unfortunately
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:08 PM
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32. Watch them start flipping to Obama after tonight and the beltway trimary
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:11 PM
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33. When you can't post correct information, how is anyone to take you seriously?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:14 PM
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36. Whats not correct about that? Are you implying that superdelegates can't and don't switch as the
race plays out?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:08 PM
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31. And don't let them b-s you regarding MA & the Kennedys.
The Kennedy endorsement played a HUGE part in Obama's shrinking the margins, and even in overtaking Hillary in a few states -- including CT.

The fact that CA is too close to call is another VICTORY for Obama and the Kennedys. Anything short of a double-digit deficit in CA is a huge turnaround for Obama from just a week ago.

Combined with the 3-to-1 fundraising gap... Hillary's campaign is on the ropes. So brace yourselves for escalation, beyond even what's been seen since Iowa.
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