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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:27 AM
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Question for California: Why 441 Democratic Delegates, but just 173 for the Republic Party?
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 AM by Up2Late
What's up with that?

Btw, CNN just called California for Hillery! :bounce: :applause: :woohoo: :patriot:

(and McCain for the Republic Party)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 AM
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1. Most Republicans can't count very high...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 AM
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8. Okay, your answer was my second guess
:rofl:
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 AM
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2. They give more delegates to states that voted republican in the last election
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 AM
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3. The rethugs have about half as many delegates in the first place
And I believe both parties give states bonus delegates based on how often they vote for their party in recent elections. That helps California with us and hurts them with the Republicans. Conversely Texas has more weight among the rethugs than it does among us for the same reason.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:28 AM
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4. Totals for delegates across the country are lower for Republicans
The parties determine the # of delegates. It's not written into the Constitution or anything.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:46 AM
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12. Oh, O.K., that sounds about right...
...but I bet it would be fun to make this question into a DU Poll and use some of the silly answers as the choices.:evilgrin:
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:29 AM
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5. The parties have different numbers of total delegates.
Republicans have a lot fewer overall.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:29 AM
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6. The other 268 are reserved for the Trilateral Commission
and they vote in secret.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 AM
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7. Parties set it up their own way.
The two parties do not operate in a uniform system.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:30 AM
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9. Both parties weight via loyalty.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:31 AM
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10. because there are fewer Republicans than Democrats in CA
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:31 AM
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11. The total number of delegats is smaller for the republicans
both parties reward statest that carry their state in the GE with extra delegates. CA also has superdelegates that include all federal office holders reps and senators etc
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:59 AM
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13. The state of California does not make that decision. DNC does
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 01:00 AM by LiberalFighter
Selection Process

But this is from a previous posting I did this morning...

8# NATIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATE APPORTIONMENT

1. Apportionment of district-level delegates within states shall be based on one of the following:
1. A formula giving equal weight to total population and to the average of the vote for the Democratic candidates in the two most recent presidential elections;

2. A formula giving equal weight to the vote for the Democratic candidates in the most recent presidential and gubernatorial elections;

3. A formula giving equal weight to the average of the vote for the Democratic candidates in the two most recent presidential elections and to Democratic Party registration or enrollment as of January 1, 2008; or

4. A formula giving one-third (1/3) weight to each of the formulas in items (1), (2), and (3).

2. Apportionment for each body selecting delegates to state, district, and county conventions shall be based upon population and/or some measure of Democratic strength.

3. The Call for the 2008 Convention shall state the base delegation for each delegation. Seventy-five percent (75%) of each state’s base delegation shall be elected at the congressional district level or smaller. Twenty-five percent (25%) of each state’s base delegation shall be elected at large. Delegates so elected shall hereafter be termed “district-level” and “at-large” delegates, respectively. Each State Democratic Chair shall certify all delegates in writing to the Secretary of the DNC.

4. In those states with more than one congressional district, after the election of district-level delegates and prior to the selection of at-large delegates, each State Democratic Chair shall certify pledged party leader and elected official delegates equal to 15% of the state’s base delegation selected pursuant to Rule 9.

5. The election of district-level and at-large delegates and alternates may take place at the same meeting, provided that district-level delegates are selected first. In states with one congressional district the election of delegates selected in accordance with Rules 8.B., 8.C., and 9.A., may be conducted simultaneously. In all cases, affirmative action and fair reflection guidelines must be met and the Democratic Chair of each such state shall make the certifications required by subsection 8.D.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:11 AM
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14. That's very interesting, but I was mainly wondering why the Republic Party has so few...
...in such a big state.:shrug:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:16 AM
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15. States don't receive delegates based on population for one thing
It is mostly on turnout for their candidate in previous elections. So if a state tends not to vote for their candidate then they will receive fewer delegates.

As for why they have fewer delegates overall than Democrats there might be several reasons.
1) They don't care about having the delegate diversity mimic reality.
2) Maybe they want fewer delegates so they have more resources for the convention or something along that line. More control?
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