So far, Clinton wins 50.4% of two-person vote in today's primaries

[Ediacara]

According to the totals on http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21660914

Clinton has 5,499,907 votes to Obama's 5,400,984; a difference of 98,923.

State Clinton Obama
Alabama 218,699.00 290,657.00
Alaska
Arizona 152,023.00 123,409.00
Arkansas 140,849.00 45,689.00
California 627,136.00 372,122.00
Colorado 30,959.00 62,626.00
Connecticut 157,116.00 167,831.00
Delaware 40,751.00 51,124.00
Georgia 299,088.00 596,530.00
Idaho 438.00 2,235.00
Illinois 554,966.00 1,080,319.00
Kansas 9,108.00 24,410.00
Massachusetts 648,448.00 471,921.00
Minnesota 53,317.00 113,298.00
Missouri 383,853.00 387,064.00
New Jersey 591,666.00 487,375.00
New Mexico
New York 999,950.00 695,670.00
North Dakota 6,948.00 11,625.00
Oklahoma 227,593.00 129,895.00
Tennessee 328,140.00 248,469.00
Utah 28,859.00 38,715.00
Total: 5,499,907.00 5,400,984.00

[lapfog_1]

1. Well, that's it then

game over!

Obama should just call it quits!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

50.4 to 49.6... and if we went BACK to the states that already voted (but now present them with only two choices)... what then?

[Ediacara]

3. Did I say he should call it quits?

Although honestly talking up his big wins in Idaho and North Dakota do make me laugh a little....

I was trying to present something that's a little clearer and more objective (although ultimately meaningless) than states won and delegates awarded.

[sandnsea]

9. It's all about the delegates

and states won and their super-delegates so that's the objective way to look at the election. And considering everybody was saying he only won SC due to the black vote, I think ID & ND are a pretty damn big deal.

[Ediacara]

10. I know it's all about the delegates

But states are really nothing more than lines drawn on maps. I never said he won in SC just because of the black vote, and I'm glad that wasn't a factor tonight.

What I'm getting at is that Clinton's margin of victory tonight in California is likely to be bigger than the total number of votes cast for both candidates in Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, and North Dakota combined. Good for Obama for winning big in largely unpopulated boxes on the map.

[lapfog_1]

13. Again, this was more in response to some Hillary people

who were saying (in thread after thread) "Game over" and "Take that, Maria" and such childish comments.

Hence, the :sarcasm: tag.

Last night, the SuperDuperTuesday, didn't really tell us all that much. It was a tie.

State "wins" are totally meaningless. It's all about the delegates.

There are plenty of scenarios where one candidate attracts more voters and even more elected delegates than the other and yet does not become the nominee of the party. It's just the system we have.

Probably better than just having the Party bigwigs go to a convention, get drunk, hire some hookers, smoke a bunch of cigars, and play poker until one is left with all the chips and becomes the nominee for President. But it still isn't all that "democratic" with a small "d".

Anyway, Obama did very well last night... considering where he started and where Hillary started. Very well. But he didn't wrap it up nor is it "all easy from here on out" either. Hillary, OTOH, didn't get steamrolled by the Obamamentum that has been built up for a few weeks now (since Iowa, not that long ago).

So, it's going to be a horse race. And my guess is that neither secures enough committed delegates to win the nomination on the first ballot. Not without either Hillary getting the Michigan and Florida delegates seated, or either Hillary or Obama secure all of Edwards delegates OR the uncommitted SuperDelegates move in mass to one or the other. Going to be some fun times.

Might be worth it to actually be a delegate at the convention for once (not just a coronation, and some crappy platform fights, but a real convention).

Anyway, I guess people don't see the :sarcasm: tag and understand that I was being, well, sarcastic (i.e. not meaning what I was writing, but rather the opposite!)

[rch35]

4. seriously dude.

what the fuck?

dont be so defensive, it was just a show of some facts.

[lapfog_1]

11. This was more about some Hillary supporters and their

comments after California results started coming in.

Hence the :sarcasm: tag.

It's a TIE!

[rch35]

17. haha allright

voted for obama today, yesterday, btw, in california, I think he could very well be the real deal, and I would be proud to have him as our President.

[Colobo]

2. Fuckin' close!

[goldcanyonaz]

5. Damn, that's a lot of people to vote in just a primary. WOW!!

[Ediacara]

6. UPDATE, Obama now leads by about 7500 votes

State Clinton Obama
Alabama 223,090 300,832
Alaska 66 176
Arizona 159,707 130,396
Arkansas 176,487 70,006
California 678,991 417,622
Colorado 38,506 79,167
Connecticut 162,961 175,969
Delaware 40,751 51,124
Georgia 309,574 641,668
Idaho 3,106 15,187
Illinois 617,611 1,194,753
Kansas 9,108 24,410
Massachusetts 663,540 482,367
Minnesota 61,376 129,041
Missouri 392,813 399,553
New Jersey 591,666 484,891
New Mexico 1,878 1,697
New York 1,000,915 696,342
North Dakota 6,948 11,625
Oklahoma 228,597 130,206
Tennessee 331,781 250,332
Utah 46,616 66,217
Total: 5,746,088 5,753,581
Clinton Leads by Clinton’s percentage of total votes cast
(7,493) 49.97%

[Ediacara]

7. UPDATE, Obama with a slightly wider lead

State Clinton ObamaAlabama 223,090 300,832
Alaska 66 176
Arizona 159,707 130,396
Arkansas 176,926 70,159
California 699,004 433,726
Colorado 38,506 79,167
Connecticut 163,383 177,546
Delaware 40,751 51,124
Georgia 314,684 660,846
Idaho 3,146 15,357
Illinois 618,763 1,196,993
Kansas 9,251 26,469
Massachusetts 665,564 483,716
Minnesota 61,417 129,093
Missouri 392,842 399,641
New Jersey 591,666 484,891
New Mexico 1,878 1,697
New York 1,000,915 696,342
North Dakota 6,948 11,625
Oklahoma 228,597 130,206
Tennessee 331,781 250,332
Utah 46,782 66,511
Total: 5,775,667 5,796,845

Clinton Leads by Clinton’s percentage of total votes cast
(21,178) 49.91%

[Ediacara]

8. UPDATE, Obama leads with 50.12%

State Clinton ObamaAlabama 223,090 300,832
Alaska 101 294
Arizona 163,521 134,512
Arkansas 181,131 71,515
California 701,466 436,580
Colorado 38,506 79,167
Connecticut 163,383 177,546
Delaware 40,751 51,124
Georgia 316,560 667,148
Idaho 3,544 16,547
Illinois 622,497 1,203,284
Kansas 9,462 27,172
Massachusetts 666,221 484,138
Minnesota 61,615 129,484
Missouri 394,391 402,530
New Jersey 591,666 484,891
New Mexico 6,737 4,769
New York 1,000,915 696,342
North Dakota 6,948 11,625
Oklahoma 228,597 130,206
Tennessee 331,781 250,332
Utah 47,344 67,708
Total: 5,800,227 5,827,746

Clinton Leads by Clinton’s percentage of total votes cast
(27,519) 49.88%

[Honeycombe8]

12. Wow. A tie. I guess it's true that we're in a marathon, not a sprint. nt

[Ediacara]

14. Last update before bed

State Clinton Obama
Alabama 223,090 300,832
Alaska 103 302
Arizona 180,394 148,150
Arkansas 181,923 71,663
California 922,380 635,890
Colorado 38,587 79,344
Connecticut 163,575 177,708
Delaware 40,751 51,124
Georgia 320,020 679,173
Idaho 3,655 16,880
Illinois 635,024 1,239,406
Kansas 9,462 27,172
Massachusetts 668,364 486,488
Minnesota 64,392 134,706
Missouri 395,287 405,284
New Jersey 599,620 489,808
New Mexico 25,747 26,120
New York 1,000,915 696,342
North Dakota 6,948 11,625
Oklahoma 228,597 130,206
Tennessee 331,781 250,332
Utah 48,563 70,112
Total: 6,089,178 6,128,667

Clinton Leads by Clinton’s percentage of votes cast for Obama or Clinton
(39,489) 49.84%

[Ediacara]

15. GOOD MORNING, Update: Clinton in the lead again 50.12 to 49.88

State Clinton Obama
Alabama 223,090 | 300,832
Alaska 103 | 302
Arizona 191,067 | 157,483
Arkansas 190,743 | 74,658
California 1,946,829 | 1,574,712
Colorado 38,587 | 79,344
Connecticut 164,334 | 178,574
Delaware 40,751 | 51,124
Georgia 326,354 | 696,622
Idaho 3,655 | 16,880
Illinois 643,352 | 1,256,543
Kansas 9,462 | 27,172
Massachusetts 682,281 | 497,372
Minnesota 64,558 | 135,160
Missouri 395,287 | 405,284
New Jersey 599,620 | 489,808
New Mexico 62,493 | 63,011
New York 1,000,915 | 696,342
North Dakota 6,948 | 11,625
Oklahoma 228,597 | 130,206
Tennessee 331,781 | 250,332
Utah 48,719 | 70,373
Total: 7,199,526 | 7,163,759

Clinton Leads by | Clinton’s percentage of votes cast for Obama or Clinton
35,767 | 50.12%

[Ediacara]

16. Together they got 14,363,285 votes

That's more than 14M votes in less than half the states in a primary.