Obama proved tonight that he can win in red states.

[TheWraith]

Kansas, Utah, Colorado, Idaho, Missouri, Georgia, Alabama. He handily won all these states, mobilizing more voters than Hillary Clinton did. He also brought out more voters in places like GA than the Republicans did.

Clinton was only able to win in the very blue states and a couple of stragglers like TN and OK.

Obama's proved that he can take on the red states and win there, with his ability to bring the moderates over to our side.

[MADem]

1. Uh, those red states are gonna go to MCCAIN in the general election.

Don't think for a SECOND that they'll be "in play" by and large.

SOME Democrat had to win the primary--in the general, though, those states belong to the GOP, for the most part.

[TheWraith]

13. Don't underestimate Obama, and don't overestimate Johnny McStrangelove.

His message of another 100 years in Iraq, plus more wars and fewer jobs aren't going to play well. He's basically running as the third term of GW Bush.

[Whisp]

20. I think the Repugs want to lose this one on purpose.

and take a breather and pass the baton to a Dem to take the flack.

but I'm not so sure anymore of the borders.

[TheWraith]

23. If they do, they're dumber than I gave them credit for.

Four years of a Dem administration will only make them look even worse by comparison.

[Whisp]

26. what can be done in four years

to uninvest
when a so called democratic congress is kissing the war pole and forgiving war crimes?
i don't see a challenge at all, but coasting to just let us believe something when, when... over the rainbow.

[MADem]

28. McCain still has that MAVERICK stink. Just because we don't buy it, doesn't mean that others won't.

And believe me, those Republicans WILL come around, hold their noses, and vote for him. ESPECIALLY if Haley Barbor is selected to be his VP, and Mike Huckabee campaigns enthusiastically for him in exchange for a plum cabinet post.

Those rapture ready fools LIKE war--it hastens the day that they're taken up to be with their Lord! And they especially like it when it's a draft-free endeavor that vacuums up the poor, the misfits, and the slightly broken and spirits them away to distant lands.

[TheWraith]

29. Wait for the MoveOn ads to come out with his "less jobs, more wars" quote.

The old man has lost his marbles, and he ain't getting them back.

[MADem]

31. The Red States aren't gonna be moved by MOVE ON ads!

:rofl:

They'll throw a beer bottle at the tee vee while calling those Petraus-disrespecting baaastids a buncha commies...and Mildred, get me another beer!

[TheWraith]

32. Fine. Run a campaign of stereotypes and butt-covering, and win only the states Kerry did.

You grossly underestimate the flexibility of the "red" states.

[MADem]

33. Time will tell. A few of those states might be flexible, but the

ones that are aren't ones where BO scored huge victories.

[LoverOfLiberty]

2. Think about it

He won Democratic votes in red states. How does that speak to his electability in the fall?

Hint: It doesn't.

[jackson_dem]

7. Ask John Kerry

Kerry won every state in the union except North Carolina (Edwards), South Carolina (Edwards), Vermont (Dean), and Oklahoma (Clark). He sucked in red states and didn't do well enough in the swing states. He won PA, MI, and MN but he lost OH, FL, and MS.

[BadgerLaw2010]

3. Um, you ain't winning any of those other than MO or CO in a general election.

[TheWraith]

14. GA, KS, and maybe AL would also be possible. NT

[BadgerLaw2010]

21. Georgia? You are smoking dope.

[TheWraith]

24. Actually I'm not.

A lot of these "red" states aren't as insurmountable as people credit them with being. We've just been running bad candidates. I love Al Gore and John Kerry as much as anybody, but they are not good campaigners.

With a good campaigner, somebody who can bring in independents and disillusioned Republicans, a LOT of states are do-able that weren't before. MO, GA, VA, NC, SC, AR, AZ, CO, and on.

[AX10]

4. He won caucus's which are attended by the party elite.

The GOP will win most of those states in the GE.

[TheWraith]

18. Uh huh. Keep spinning, now.

Because after all, the reddest KS county has 5,000 "party elite" to attend their caucus, as reported by one Hillary voter on here.

[jackson_dem]

5. In Dem primaries. Kerry won 46 states. How'd he do in Idaho and Alaska in the general?

[Maven]

6. Caucuses vs. Primaries

Important distinction to keep in mind.

[jillan]

8. And the ones he didn't win, Hillary did.

This was a race between the dems, not against the repugs.

[gmudem]

9. I could definitely see Colorado and Missouri being in play this year.

Although not if Clinton is the nominee. Virginia is another state that Obama will put in play.

[TheWraith]

GA and KS too, I think.

KS is a long shot, but they've been trending moderate, and are tired of being looked at as the crazy fly-over people.

[TheWraith]

17. GA and KS too, I think.

KS is a long shot, but they've been trending moderate, and are tired of being looked at as the crazy fly-over people.

[BlackmanX]

10. GA, KS, and MO are in play

and if he gets the nod his drawing power is only going to get stronger. Take a good look at GA because I have a feeling it'll turn blue in the fall.

[TheWraith]

16. In GA, the Dems out drew the Republican primary. That's huge. NT

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. But Of Course! The Candidate That Democrats Vote For Can TOTALLY Be Translated Into Who The

republicans will vote for!

Yes! I totally get your logic now! Brilliant!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

35. seriously.

[cooolandrew]

12. Clearly why he campaigned down there so hard the north can now see he is vialbe.

[LVZ]

15. Clearly shown on this map ...

http://lasvalley.com/democratic-primary-caucus-results.html

[DainBramaged]

19. He needed to win Blue states (too ) to become the Nominee

And that didn't happen. And he didn't mobilize more voters. The Blue states have higher density populations. It was a dead heat, and he needed a decisive win, but it didn't happen. Now it will go to the Convention.

[TheWraith]

25. Illinois isn't a blue state? Connecticut and Delaware?

He didn't need a massive blowout. He won in states and in delegates.

[cottonseed]

36. Blue states are in the bag, that's why they're called "blue" states.

Hillary's campaign was great, she took the bigger states. Obama won't lose those in a General.

[Jed Dilligan]

22. "White guys with confederate flags on their pickups"

Happy Black History Month, and a shout-out to Dr. Dean!

[johnnydrama]

27. most important

is to make the other side think he has a chance in those states that typically the Republican candidate doesn't even have to visit.

If McCain has to make a 2 day stop in Georgia, or Kansas, that's 2 days he's not in Ohio or Pennsylvania or Florida.

[TheWraith]

30. Make them fight for every state. Make them explain why the "red" states should vote for them...

...rather than simple inertia and habit. It's an argument they're not well placed to make.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. no, he didnt. he proved that the DEMS in red states like him. different story

[robbedvoter]

37. Republicans also won their primaries in red states...Primaries ain't GE

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

38. For the love of God, just stop this nonsense

Winning DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES in red states is not "winning red states"

By this logic, why run a candidate at all, since John McCain has demonstrated that he "wins" every blue state?