"OBAMA UP 13 IN CALIFORNIA" This is HUGGGHHH!!!1111!

[CyberPieHole]

Well, at least that is what Zogby told us in it's final poll before the primary in California.

http://swarheit.blogspot.com/2008/02/final-zogby-poll-obama-up-13-in.html

So much for these polls being right.

[William769]

1. Zogby: Clinton in Free Fall in California.

OOPS.

[quinnox]

2. lol, I hope Obama fans didn't believe that

Zogby is shit.

[krkaufman]

4. Besides... as rapidly as the situation is changing ...

... with Obama's momentum being only recent, and Edwards leaving the race... the polled opinions are likely not locked-in -- just like in New Hampshire.

[Indenturedebtor]

3. Lol polls are often wrong

But as has been said time and time again: trends matter.

We'll see how the state turns out.

[Land Shark]

11. and what is "often right"? Votes counted in complete secrecy on e-voting machines?

I'm not necessarily prejudging the issue EXCEPT to say that there's no basis for a presumptive validity in the election results when THOSE results were determined in secrecy, with no witnesses, not even election officials have any personal knowledge that the counts popping out of the magic black boxes are true and correct, or not.

[kster]

13. When do we arrest these 2008 presidential candidates, past and

present for misleading us into a fake election. :mad:

[tabasco]

5. Obama wins delegate contest.

That is really hugh!

[Honeycombe8]

6. I guess I'm not too surprised by the CA results so far....I didn't see the polls!

The polls no longer work with the wide use of cell phones these days. They just aren't as useful as they used to be.

But I went into tonight thinking that if Obama got 40% in CA, he'd be doing great, to get some of those delegates. But I never expected he'd win CA, what with the large hispanic population and all. But then I have been too busy at work to check the polls lately.

I thought Obama was doing great until I read some posts here. It's all about expectations, I guess.

[IndieLeft]

7. Last poll I take seriously.

[lligrd]

8. Hmm, And Suddenly When Polls Don't Match Results

DUers think polls have always been wrong. I remember when polls were quite accurate and we were very suspicious when the results didn't match them.

[BrightKnight]

9. LMAOROTF -n/t

[TheWraith]

10. If this is the best spin you can manage, you're REALLY in trouble. NT

[Raine]

12. Bye Bye

ignore feature is back so you go on the list. :bounce:

[Barrymores Ghost]

14. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the second-and-only "Make-or-Break"...

...state that would have decided Hillary's viability as a Democratic candidate (NH being the other), and the second-and-only state contest in which she utterly bucked poll expectations, reflected immediately before ballots were cast, to the tune of 13-15%, and managed to flip polls exactly on their own heads.

More than 5 million people have requested mail-in ballots in California, where there are 15.7 million registered voters. Election officials in the most populated and delegate-rich state in the country have said results may not be available until Wednesday or later.

In California, the secretary of state's office reported dozens of calls from nonpartisan voters complaining that poll workers had mistakenly tried to stop them from voting in the Democratic presidential primary.

According to California state party rules, voters who are unaffiliated with any political party may specially request ballots for the Democratic or American Independent primaries. Only Republican voters can vote in that party's primary.

Another problem is the state's recent switch from electronic voting machines to paper ballots. Four of California's most populous counties — Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego and Santa Clara — must count votes at centralized locations because there are not enough optical scanners for every precinct.