What happened to the 17% lead in California for Obama?

[johncoby2]

I saw the polls today, and heard Ed Shultz talk about the 17% lead in California for Barack Obama, but currently he is losing by 22 points.

What gives folks?

[TwilightGardener]

1. Early/absentee voting heavily favored her, and polls are often wrong. I don't heed them anymore.

[leftynyc]

16. Me neither

Don't really understand why they keep getting posted. I guess they take up time and energy waiting for results but they've been so off and so many things not taken into consideration (early voting, etc), that they are particulary non-illuminating.

[tekisui]

2. Maybe, just wait?

:shrug:

We're at 16%.

[El Pinko]

11. Definitely. This posts seems way premature, CA is very diverse and has 35 million people.

If the early returns are from the central valley, the results will be drastically different than if they are from LA or the Bay Area.

[joshcryer]

14. We're at 80% reporting and Hillary continues to rise.

[kurth]

3. Media shilling for the cult

[Faygo Kid]

4. Zogby sucks. Don't rely on him, Hillbots.

Polls suck generally, and Zogby specifically.

[leftynyc]

17. I think the Obama people were pushing Zogby

The SUSA poll was being pushed by the Hillary supporters.

[BadgerLaw2010]

5. Zogby is trash?

[Tiggeroshii]

6. The polls I saw were going every which way

I saw polls from Zogby saying he had 17 and 9 and polls from other people saying she had 17 and 13 or whatnot. The way I see it it could end up looking like anything.

They averaged all the entrance polls here:

www.realclearpolitics.com

[JorgeTheGood]

7. I posted a couple of nights ago that Zogby ...

worked with the MSM and republican party to skew the polls - contrary to Obama posters that were claiming he is the best in the business ... That is all.

[MarjorieG]

8. We need counter-spin facts

What is the percentage of each race's absentee ballots? What were the polls just post NH, when the Clinton camp looked stronger.

Obama is better on policy, even discussing it, better on content and positioning of it. How to convince others? The Letterman and Hallmark town hall show might have made a difference.

Please don't give me Bill again.

How do we convince voters it's not a done deal, for ones on the fence. Was Boxer waiting to see the win, or not wanting to impact the primary?

[johncoby2]

9. Ed Shultz and all the liberal stations were saying this was a BIG deal!

Are they wrong also?

This means the polls are realy really bad.

[TahitiNut]

10. Is it really so difficult to post ths stuff in GD:P???

:grr:

[Clintonista2]

13. Umm this IS GDP

[dmosh42]

12. polls are now used to stampede the electorate!

You see them posted here all the time with phony results. The pros realized years ago, that people want to be on the 'winner side'. That's why they don't report election results until Calif. closes.

[joshcryer]

15. Well, exit polling is significantly more accurate than robocalling.

You can't be telling people how things are really, truly moving because that would just upset the whole political process.

[SKKY]

18. I'd never seen a poll with Obama up by 17%...

...but it does appear that the early votes, most cast before South Carolina, have fallen heavily for HRC.

[Joe the Revelator]

19. What happend to the fact that Hillary led in 19 of 21 states 10 days ago?

[adabfree]

20. Ha

Sure did...but no one wants to discuss that...at least no one in the Hillster's camp. If they do..the spin and say, "We always knew this was going to be a tight race!"

[William769]

21. What happened to Obamas delegate count?

[TexasObserver]

22. She coughed up leads in over half the Super Tuesday states

And managed to hold onto a few like California by having heavy leads she ran up in the early voting, before so many realized the Obama campaign is for real.

[adabfree]

23. Yep

Ignore William, he's scared and in a lot of pain...

[cali]

24. SUSA had Hillary up 14%. Polls were all over the map.

and I never saw a poll saying he was up 17%.

[TheFarseer]

25. Polls have not been reliable this primary season

I also saw John Zogby saying Clinton was going to win by significant margins in Missouri, Kansas and Colorado and that was on Monday.

[leftynyc]

26. Can we all agree that Zogby

polls are completely unreliable at this point?