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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:31 AM
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How Hillary won California.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:40 AM by calteacherguy
She already had an overwhelming organization here.

She won the majority of the asian and latino vote.

Obama won among the majority of white voters as well as black voters, which is a very hopeful sign. Obama needs to reach out more to latino and asian folks to build one America.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:32 AM
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1. Latinos & Asians are racist?
:puke:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:33 AM
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3. Of course some are.
As are some whites, blacks, etc.

What's your point?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:34 AM
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7. nice editing for kinder gentler bullshit
guess you realized how badly you originally came off
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:35 AM
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10. No one can paint anyone with a broad brush like that
All groups have individuals that a racists

but that is not the majority



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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:36 AM
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12. Yep...just as whites and blacks are...
Not all of them by any means, but prejudice (not necessarily racism) exists in all cultures.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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21. WTF?? Been drinking much?
or just spreading spew because you're bored. Hispanics and Asians have whatever their reasons but Blacks and Whites split towards Obama. That's a big deal.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:39 AM
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29. OP edited out their original comments blaming asian & hispanic vote on prejuidice.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:42 AM
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33. Yes I did. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:43 AM by calteacherguy
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:32 AM
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2. So does that mean Latinos and
Asians will break for the CONS should Obama be the nominee? Just curious. I don't follow these trends.

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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:34 AM
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5. No. California is a solidly blue state.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:35 AM
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8. that's good to hear.
you've got BOTS, BTW.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:34 AM
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4. Your post sounds like sour grapes with racial overtones -Please Delete it.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:35 AM
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9. Just posting the facts. nt
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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23. And then you erased your racist bullshit
So much for your "facts"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:40 AM
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30. I see you did some editing--Still suspect.
She won the majority of the asian and latino vote. It's sad, but some people in minority groups still have prejudices. I'm sure it played a role.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:41 AM
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31. Heavy editing
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:43 AM by rinsd
Th original line was the worst but the 1ts edit said this after the line stating Hillary won the majortiy of the aisian and latino vote

"It's sad, but some people in minority groups still have prejudices. I'm sure it played a role."

Now even this line is gone
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:00 AM
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51. Do you think it didn't play a role? Be honest, c'mon. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 03:00 AM by calteacherguy
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:37 AM
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18. This is an odd post
The OP stated some minority groups have prejudice in reference to Latinos and asians.

If that were the case, then logic would conclude the same thought process for the AA's.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:34 AM
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6. Uh huh...
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:35 AM
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11. Asians and latinos voting for white woman = prejudiced. Check.
White men voting for black man = not prejudiced. Check?

I'm confused. You are not a racist, why?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:37 AM
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17. Cuz his candidate deserves to win. That's the impression I get, over and over and over again.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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22. Please send me a copy of the rules.
This is rather confusing.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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24. YOU just reduced the candidates to a "white woman" and a "black man"
...who's the racist here?

The OP said nothing about racism...it spoke of prejudice.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:46 AM
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39. There you go again - you must be sore about the whole personality disorder thing.
Didn't mean to hit a nerve. :rofl:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:02 AM
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53. I've explained my positions (in 2 threads)...
...imbeciles who insist that a difference of opinion is based on a personality disorder don't "hit a nerve". They just bore me.

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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:36 AM
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13. I am Asian and i am really offend at what you said. Go to hell.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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20. I don't think you understand my point. All I posted was facts.
People are free to vote as they wish, but it's an uncomfortable fact a lot of the voting fell along racial lines.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:39 AM
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25. Come on. I'm Asian and I remember how it used to be.
My group was very insular. Thank goodness we have grown.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:36 AM
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14. So, as a black woman, my voting for Clinton would make me a racist too in your mind.
Or, am I just a sellout?

Anytime she wins it's always some great bullshit spin on the part of many here.

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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:37 AM
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15. Don't be ridiculous. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:42 AM
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32. Do you see the error in your thinking???
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:44 AM
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37. Nope. Do you see the error in yours? nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 AM
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19. And ironically, the double standard wouldn't allow anyone to post the converse of this.
There would be so many alerts, so many people calling racist, so many *spam* posts that it would be drowned into oblivion.

It's incredible.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:37 AM
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16. Yeah, yeah
Anybody who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist. I'm sure that will be the excuse for every state Obama loses in tonight.


By the way, what's your excuse for the fact that most blacks voted for Obama?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:39 AM
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26. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:43 AM
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34. Nice language, teach
:spank:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:44 AM
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38. I think he has Tourettes or something
Maybe GAD.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:47 AM
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42. Geez
take a pill!

She won California.
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kowanda32 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:49 AM
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44. WOW!
Who do you teach? :hide:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:59 AM
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49. Pitbulls nt
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:39 AM
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27. There ain't enough popcorn in the *universe* for THIS thread.
:P
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:49 AM
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45. Sure there is!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:39 AM
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28. And Clinton won more young (college-age) voters than Obama in CA
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:40 AM by Harvey Korman
and in MA.

:)
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:43 AM
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35. All racists, of course.
:P
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:46 AM
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40. Why did the OP edit his post
And take out the part about asians and latinos were prejudice? Was it because the OP was called out on it? I think it's funny. He quickly edited the prejudice stuff out.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:54 AM
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46. Because the OP wanted to take that part out. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:43 AM
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36. Prejudices played a role? WOW. In a Democratic contest?
That's a pretty shitty indictment of Asians and Hispanics. I'm sure they are thrilled to be identified as being minority groups that have "some people" with prejudices that "played a role" in the results of the election.

Of course they didn't LOOK at the issues and decide on their candidate based on them. Naaah, it HAD to be that they had some 'RACISTS' with prejudices, all ready and eager to put their candidate over the top!!!

That's just a horrific post. Horrific. Offensive, divisive, an indictment.

Many proud black voters voted for Obama, an overwhelming number, in fact--are they "racists" too? Or are they simply pleased to support a black candidate with whom they identify? His issues are their issues?

But those Asians and Latinos...they're prejudiced?
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:46 AM
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41. I think you need a valium.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:49 AM by calteacherguy
Or something to at least gain a little perspective and sense of proportion.

As well as reality.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:48 AM
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43. Ah yes the Du Obama supporters favorite gambit...the McClurkin defense
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:54 AM
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47. I need a valium, when YOU post racist horseshit and then edit it heavily when you
realized what hideous shit you laid out?

You TEACH?

No wonder our schools are in trouble.

Do you teach your Asian and Latino students that the reason they support Clinton is because they've got prejudiced people in their ranks? But that black and white people vote for Obama because he's such a swell guy?

:eyes:

You've got some major issues--and you have the nerve to suggest that people calling you on that kind of vitriolic, insidious shit need valium? I'd say we need a ten foot pole and some PEPPER spray--to keep that kind of shit at a safe distance.

You need some perspective, proportion, and reality. That kind of broadbrushed crap is OUT OF FASHION here.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:56 AM
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48. You are completely twisting what I said.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 02:57 AM by calteacherguy
Of course some latinos and asians are prejudiced, as are some whites, blacks, males, females, transvestites, and every other label or group you can think of. I was merely stating the obvious, edited to let people draw their own conclusions and prevent folks like you from twisting the meaning.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:00 AM
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50. your fellow Du'er's are trying to educate you. Ask mods to delete Entire thread.
48. You are completely twisting what I said.

Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 01:57 AM by calteacherguy
Of course some latinos and asians are prejudiced, as are some whites, blacks, males, females, transvestites, and every other label or group you can think of. I was merely stating the obvious, edited to let people draw their own conclusions and prevent folks like you from twisting the meaning.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:01 AM
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52. Educate me about what? You think nobody is prejudiced in America?
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 03:02 AM by calteacherguy
Point is we need to reach out to each other to overcome it.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:04 AM
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54. Didn't someone post the OP was a teacher?
If that's the case, this is not a good example to set for his/her kids. In my opinion.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:04 AM
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55. No. I am not twisting what you said. I read it. Now you've edited it out.
But I read what you said.

You were not saying that Asians and Latinos have their fair share of prejudiced jerks. You were ascribing prejudice as a clear and pervasive factor in their decision to vote for Clinton and NOT for Obama.

I think you don't even realize that you are 'equal opportunity challenged,' to put it kindly.
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