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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:56 AM
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AP:: Penn won't discuss plans for remaining Feb Primaries, Points to March
Both campaigns agree that Obama has the edge in many of the states scheduled to vote in the next week -- Louisiana and Nebraska on Saturday, and Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia on Tuesday. Demographics in several of those states favor the man trying to become the first black president.

''There is one thing on this February night that we don't need the final results to know -- our time has come,'' Obama said after polls closed in California. ''Our time has come. Our movement is real, and change is coming to America.''

Obama has a significant fundraising advantage, having brought in more than twice her donations in January -- $32 million to $13.5 million. Clinton is trying to counter by challenging Obama to four debates this month in which she can try to draw distinctions. Plouffe wasn't taking the bait, calling it ''a tactic out of second-tier congressional campaign playbooks.''

''There's going to be more debates, but our schedule is not going to be dictated by the Clinton campaign,'' he said.

Clinton chief strategist Mark Penn on Tuesday declined to discuss how strenuously Clinton would compete in the February contests, rather pointing reporters to an Ohio poll that showed her leading Obama by 20 percentage points there.

The Clinton campaign is also touting her strength in Texas which. like Ohio, holds its primary on March 4. Clinton strategists are even looking as far ahead as Pennsylvania's April 22 primary.

Pennsylvania appeared to be making itself irrelevant by refusing to join the crush of states moving up their voting dates. Democratic Party rules said all but four states could not hold their contests until Feb. 5 or later -- and 22 rushed up to that first allowable day.

The result was that many of those Feb. 5 states did not get much attention from the candidates who had to divide their attentions. Heavy attention now will shift to the states that showed patience.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Campaign-Dems-Analysis.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Obama has a huge advantage in Caucus states and in the demographics if the Potomac states.. He should win the rest of the month handedly and Clinton keeps the war chest in place. But Obama can tuck away serious delegates in the meantime plus momentum,. You would think that if Obama scores big the rest of February and gets 40% of the the OH Delegates that the Clintons would have to rely on really substantial wins in March which could be tricky.


They might also be relying on a lot of Super Delegates to come their way.... I am not sure that is going to happen. DNC members are reportedly pissed about her very public reversal on Florida and I understand (because I float around the Congressional aide Community here in Norther Virginia) That there are a clot of congressmen who are not happy at the prospect of Bill Clinton being tagged with the co-president label in the Fall.

Fascinating!!!

Date State Type District-level State Level

9-Feb-08 Louisiana primary 37 19
9-Feb-08 Nebraska caucus 16 8
9-Feb-08 U.S. Virgin Islands primary 3
9-Feb-08 Washington caucus 51 27
10-Feb-08 Maine caucus 16 8
12-Feb-08 District of Columbia primary 10 5
12-Feb-08 Maryland primary 46 24
12-Feb-08 Virginia primary 54 29
19-Feb-08 Hawaii caucus 13 7
19-Feb-08 Wisconsin primary 48 26
The rest of February totals 291 156

4-Mar-08 Ohio primary 92 49
4-Mar-08 Rhode Island primary 13 8
4-Mar-08 Texas Hybrid 126 67
4-Mar-08 Vermont primary 10 5
8-Mar-08 Wyoming caucus 7 5
11-Mar-08 Mississippi primary 22 11
The March totals 270 145

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:00 AM
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1. One of these days you might get it right.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:30 AM
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6. How about some substance rather than attack? How about some facts rather than hyperbole?
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:45 AM
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7. I'm not sure if that poster is capable of that to be honest *shrugs* n/t
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:58 AM
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9. Happily for me, the ignore featuer is back on!
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:25 AM
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12. I don't use the ignore myself, i do hide a fair amount of threads tho
based on who posted them in some instances or the first post in others
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:01 AM
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2. Obama should dominate the rest of February
He would do well to ignore her entirely the remainder of the month. She'll try to drag him down in the mud again, where she does her best work. He has to ignore them and go forward with his message.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:04 AM
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3. This coming from someone who spammed a thread yesterday with this.
"the trend is definitely breaking FOR Obama, away from Clinton".

:rofl:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:06 AM
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4. If Mark Penn or the Clinton Campaign don't take the momentum they gained last night...
...and campaign in those states coming up soon, then Hillary Clinton won't win the nomination. She has to CONTEST EVERY STATE from now on. Completely and utterly. Burn those pocket books.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:20 AM
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5. How do you see those states in feb shaking out realistically?
Obama does seem to have some strong advantages in organization and Demographics. He ought to win them....If she competes agreesively and loses them all...l then she has to battle the perception thing. by not being agressive she avoids getting tagges as a "loser"


it a touigh call
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riskpeace Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:55 AM
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8. I think Hillary will do better in MD and VA
The demographics in the cities may favor Obama. I do not think the African-American vote will break so heavily for Senator Obama as it did in the South. But Senator Obama will certainly do well there and in NoVa.
At the same time, some may think back to the McClurkin incident in SC and vote Hillary.
I think the demographics are more diverse than the South, except for maybe Atlanta.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:25 AM
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11. Hillary has no presence at all in the washingon media market
I have yet to see an add or a mailer

Baltimore metro will go demofrphically for Obama as well

Downstate Virginia is ver republican I can't imagine Hillary doing well there
but Tidewater and Richmond have been blue of late Doug Wilder is Mayor of Richmond and has endorsed Obama. The Governor is a national co-chair.

I supsct Webb and Warner will probably endores Obama as well probaly in the nezt 48 hours.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:59 AM
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10. Obama supporter here, but you could spin this the other way...
Obama HAS to take VA and MD is he is going withstand the onslaught of PA, TX and OH.
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