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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM
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My letter to NBC News - re Clinton coverage

I have never seen such bias against a political candidate as your network has shown toward Hillary Clinton. Your talking heads have done their utmost to downplay any gains or victories won by Mrs. Clinton, while giving Mr. Obama an almost free ride with any negatives he may have. When it comes to Mrs. Clinton, however, she is subject to the most intense and withering scrutiny.
In particular I would like to complain about Andrea Mitchell's coverage of Mrs. Clinton. She can hardly mask her dislike of the candidate, it fairly drips out of her pores. If a so-called objective journalist cannot hide her dislike of a candidate, she needs to be replaced in her assignment, as it is essential that fair and equal dispassion be shown to all candidates in such an important election season. David Gregory would provide much more balanced coverage in my opinion.
Having made this point, I will continue to watch your network, but if Mitchell doesn't change in her attitude (I can't be the only one who's noticed this), I will be going over to ABC for election coverage.

Honestly, they are so biassed against Clinton, it's almost unbelievable - this after they ignored Edwards to death - and before that, Kooch.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:26 AM
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1. yes, you're right
I can't bring myself to watch much coverage of the race due to the "well, she won CA, NY, NJ, AK and TN and probably has more delegates, but Barack is the one having an amazing night! When do you think she'll throw in the towel?"-type attitude.

Anyone else would be called a "front runner" and congratulated. But not Hillary. They're too busy trying to draw blood!
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:27 AM
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2. K&R!
Thank you.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:28 AM
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3. Thank you.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:29 AM
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4. The MSM hates the Clintons. Always have, always will.
Nothin' new.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:30 AM
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5. Well maybe if more people drew attention to it, they may change
Pigs may also fly, but one can hope!
I actually sent a snail mail on this, I feel so aggravated!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:33 AM
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6. Maybe some HONEST journalists are sensing that The American People are growing TIRED of The Clintons
running rough shod, not only over Our Beloved Party, but OVER OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM. :grr:

Believe it or not, you can be A Democrat who's disgusted with The Clintons and their mighty SMARMY DLC spin machine running every damn thing about OUR PARTY. :thumbsdown:

Enough! I've got Clinton Burn-out and I can't say enough negative about THEM, because they are NOT DEMOCRATIC ... they, and their mighty political machine have a *stranglehold* over our Democratic Party's Power Base. Now, the foregoing is NOT the Democratic Party that I signed on with in 1982.

Perhaps it's simple: The American People, and some HONEST journalists are BURNED-OUT with "all things Clinton." It's *beyond* time for this "royal political family" to GO AWAY! :shrug:
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:44 AM
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10. Spoken like a true non-objective Clinton-hater nt
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:07 AM
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22. Wow- nice strawman argument there
It's not excusable for a news outlet to be biassed like this. We don't like Fox because of this, NBC is getting to be almost as bad.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:23 AM
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30. You can also be a Democrat who bought into the
10 years of paid for propaganda against the Clinton.

The point is journalists are to be impartial in the reporting of the news.

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:37 AM
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7. they have been horrific in their attacks on Clinton, and now it is worse
because Bill Clinton called them on it...so it is now all out war. They don't even hide their contempt for Clinton.

When I saw Ed Shultz on Tweety's show comparing her to Hitler and a baby killer, I knew that the machine was out to get her.

I know that the reason Obama is surging is because of that propaganda. And, I am so pleased that many Americans are seeing through the propaganda.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:40 AM
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8. Good letter, I agree with it.....
Andrea Mitchell and Chris Matthews are the reason I stopped watching MSNBC. In fact, I had Fox on last night for coverage, and no gushing over any of the candidates and they played speeches in their entirety, not just a snip. I was mildly surprised!

I joked yesterday about tuning into Fox more because I liked their political coverage better...so will this turn me into a 'puglican? :silly:

I'm still mourning the loss of my favorite Democrat, but I found myself rooting for Hillary last night. Obama just doesn't rock my world as I find him all sizzle and no steak :D

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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:46 AM
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12. Time to give fox a peek
haven't been there since 2000.
I wonder why it was all the talking heads at msnbc that was given the info on Wilson & Plame and not the other stations. That's what keeps sticking in the back of my mind
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:43 AM
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9. They're worse than Fox.
No kidding - Fox News had better coverage of Super Tuesday.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:44 AM
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11. May your arrow find it's target,

which so richly deserves it.

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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:47 AM
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13. I would say you are right on target. It reminds me of a line from
the movie “Gladiator”. The black gladiator is talking to Maximus (Russell Crowe) and says “you have a famous name…..they will have to destroy your name before they can destroy you”. They are trying to destroy the Clinton name in order to diminish the couples’ strength.

Yes, that's why the whore media wants Obama.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:51 AM
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14. You're absolutely right, I'll write them too. n/t
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:52 AM
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15. Great job, a letter is just what we should be firing out to the media. I'm on it too.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:55 AM
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17. I am sure it will work just as well as the letters written to the media when John Kerry
was swift boated with those political ads in 2004

Thanks to the telecom act of the 90's the media isn't accountable to the public

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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:21 AM
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29. The letters worked against Chris Matthews. Did you miss his mea culpa a few weeks back?
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 10:21 AM by goldcanyonaz
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:04 PM
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35. I am more cynical than you
Except for a brief feel good moment, nothing will change as long as the agenda is controlled by the corporations
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:53 AM
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16. Clinton mistique is a double edged sword filled with controversy
If Hillary wins the nomination, it will even get worse, and EVERY network will be doing it. If the Clinton campaign did not expect this, and cannot combact it effectively, if she is the Democratic nominee, then we are in big trouble

At the very minimum you can expect the swift boaters from the Kerry days putting smears on that have Bill Clinton testifying under oath that he never had sex with that lady. The Clinton camp better be prepared for that, and if they are not, they have just lost the white house

Worse yet, those type of smears will distract from the issues that should be talked about

I hope I am wrong, but that was one of the ironic tradgedies of the telecom act of the ninties which removed the fairness doctrine, and allowed mass media mergers


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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:58 AM
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18. Fineman is as bad as Mitchell
and Tweety and Olbermann and O'Donnell aren't much better
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:59 AM
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19. P.S.
And her husband fucked up our economy.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:03 AM
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20. Their corporate owners have obviously ordered the shills to push the LOSER
for the Dems in the GE. The repukes want Obama to win so bad, they can't even hide it anymore. Obama is the MSM's darling right now, but in the GE he is going to be skewered!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:06 AM
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21. Meanwhile people over in the Obama camp are writing similar letters
Except they're complaining about the piss poor coverage given to Obama:shrug:

It is, at times, simply a matter of one's opinion and your own personal point of view.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:10 AM
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23. No I'm sorry, it isn't the same
Obama can do no wrong and Clinton can do no right as far as NBC goes. We already have Fox for the rightists, all I'm asking is fairness.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:18 AM
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28. As I said, it is a matter of one's own perception
You obviously have a biased view of this, I don't, I dislike both candidates about equally. I've watched NBC, CNN and listened to NPR, and frankly I don't see much bias going either way. Granted, I don't glue myself to the television, but from what I've seen your statement simply isn't true.

And like I said, some person in the Obama camp is writing a letter similar to yours, NBC is going to read yours and theirs, and decide hey, we must be doing a good job since both camps are pissed. That's they way things work.

Besides, I think that the Clinton camp has little to complain about since the MSM carried water for them for so long. Going into primary season the entire outlook of the MSM was that Hillary was inevitable, and did everything but crown her. The media got their dicks knocked in the dirt when Obama started winning, and have been more objective ever since, not wanting to take the risk. Now if that is what you think is bad journalism is, not trumpeting your candidate to high heaven, then you're no better than the fools who listen to Rush and O'Reilly.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:13 AM
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24. Ummmmm
No

Hillary Clinton is getting the worst press and Barack Obama the best press of any major presidential candidate, and Bill Clinton is also getting negative reviews, while the gap in good press between John McCain and Mitt Romney is narrowing, according to a new study of TV news election coverage by the Center for Media and Public Affairs. The study also finds that FOX’s evening news show had the most coverage of policy issues and the least coverage of the campaign horse race.

http://www.cmpa.com/election%20news%202_1_08.htm
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:24 AM
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31. You're using CMPA for your source? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Not surprising, coming from a Hillary supporter, but still and all, to come right out and use such a biased and right wing sight is laughable. Try again! <http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Media_and_Public_Affairs>

A Scaife funded organization, the irony is delicious:rofl:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:18 AM
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27. Completely untrue
IF you can even write this, it means you must not watch MSNBC.

Even many Obama supporters here admit the extreme bias against Clinton.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:27 AM
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32. No, what my writing this means is that I'm objective
At this point I have little vested interest in one candidate over the other, I think that both of them are big disappointments. Therefore, unlike Hillary partisans, I can be objective when I watch the media, and not parse every single statement for the slightest hint of an insult, real or imagined, directed at Hillary.

Objectivity, it's a good thing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:14 AM
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25. amen...and .thank you
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:16 AM
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26. You sound like a lunatic
These things never have any effect if you come off as a raving partisan.

Rewrite, and this time take a breath first.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:37 AM
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33. Why, thank you kind sir [/sarcasm]
I really like being compared to a lunatic.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:51 AM
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34. If the foo shits
:shrug:
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