THUNDER HANDS
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:16 AM
Original message |
If We Had A Winner-Take-All System In Place, Clinton Would Have Won The Nomination Last Night |
|
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM by Magic Rat
If you got all the delegates in the state, and you didn't need superdelegates to factor in, Clinton's win in California would have put her over the top.
OBAMA Alabama = 52 delegates Alaska = 13 delegates Colorado = 55 delegates Connectict = 48 delegates Delaware = 15 delegates Georgia = 87 delegates Idaho = 18 delegates Illinois = 153 delegates Iowa = 45 delegates Kansas = 32 delegates Minnesoata = 72 delegates Missouri = 72 delegates New Mexico = 26 delegates North Dakota = 13 delegates South Carolina = 45 delegates Utah = 23 delegates
TOTAL = 769 Delegates
CLINTON Arizona = 56 delegates Arkansas = 35 delegates California = 370 delegates Massachusettes = 93 delegates Nevada = 25 delegates New Hampshire = 22 delegates New Jersey = 107 delegates New York = 232 delegates Oklahoma = 38 delegates Tennessee = 68 delegates
TOTAL = 1046 Delegates.
That's a 277 delegate margin for Clinton. Take that state out of the equation and Obama would be ahead by 123 delegates.
|
robbedvoter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:17 AM
Response to Original message |
1. Dean changed the system - to get the nominee faster. Another good one! |
rox63
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:18 AM
Response to Original message |
2. You forgot Arkansas, which went to Clinton |
|
I'm just as glad that we award delegates proportionally.
|
THUNDER HANDS
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #2 |
Capn Sunshine
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM
Response to Original message |
3. Dean didn't change anything- this was inherited from Mcauliffe |
|
who works for Clinton btw.
And if we had a winner take all system, we would have run a different campaign So many of you are just clueless about this process.
|
Windy
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM
Response to Original message |
4. We have proportional delegates as the population of states differs |
|
by precinct.
Proportional representation is the basis.
You can go with straight popular vote voting, but the issues in all states are different and they have different concerns. If you went to a straight popular vote then Califonia and New York would control elections.
the interests of the manufacturing communities, farming communities, etc would not really have a say so in the direction of the country.
|
harun
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:22 AM
Response to Original message |
6. We have that system because of Jesse Jackson and it helps |
|
minorities have a voice. Which is why the winner take all system is used by the Repukes and in the GE, to drown out the minority voice.
|
rateyes
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 11:26 AM
Response to Original message |
7. How does she get the nomination with 1046 delegates? |
|
A candidate needs twice that amount to be nominated.
|
THUNDER HANDS
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
8. because she'd be so far ahead |
|
that Obama couldn't catch her, unless he won every state from there on out.
|
scheming daemons
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
9. Um.... wouldnt the states to come ALSO be winner-take-all in your scenario? |
|
Since Obama would be likely to win each of the next 7 states.... totalling over 300 delegates... then your premise breaks down.
Make *ALL* the states, both prior and to come, winner-take-all and re-do your math.
You have faulty assumptions, sir.
|
TeamJordan23
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Feb-06-08 12:07 PM
Response to Original message |
10. Tough argument you are making. Both campaigns would have had different strategies. nm |
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:04 PM
Response to Original message |