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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:54 AM
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So does Obama have a prayer with the Hispanic vote in November against immigration reformer Mccain?
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 11:55 AM by Tropics_Dude83
Latinos really do not seem to like Obama at all. MSNBC just showed a graph of the AP national exit poll. Clinton won 62-34. I think Obama is in great shape to win the nomination after Tuesday but I worry that latinos will go for Mccain because of his championship of immigration reform and because of the simmering tensions beneath the surface between the "black-brown" population in many large cities.

What can Obama do to overcome this dislike that so many latinos have for him?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:58 AM
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1. If Obama is the nominee all of Hillary's Latino endorsers move to Obama
This is a non issue in a GE.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:00 PM
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2. Most certainly not with this Latina
and I am not opposed to some kind of immigration refore either.

Part of it has to do with Obamas followers and their complete utter rudeness, tackiness and racism against Latinos (not all obviously but enough) that is beyond the pale. If this is the type of unity he promotes then I want no part of it. There's other reasons but I have to run to go to work will post more later.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:52 PM
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4. Can you give some examples of racism against Latinos by the Obama campaign?
nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:53 PM
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7. How pathetic and not even honest
you won't vote for the dem nominee? That just makes you a lousy dem and a lousy American.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:14 PM
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10. oh please, take your I'm better and smarter than everyone attitude
and stuff it. I am not voting for him because I am not sold on his bag of goods. PERIOD. I suspect that many in the Latino community feel the same way. Its not a race thing at all. If it was we wouldn't be voting for a White woman. They probably don't believe in what he is saying as I don't believe what he is saying. Which is just a bunch of rhetoric and pandering. Its really quite that simple. And the more I see of his message and the "lousy" attitude of his followers the more I don't like what I'm smelling.

I am not obligated to vote for anyone. When the time comes to vote you really don't know what the hell I'm going to do, so don't assume.


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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:50 PM
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3. I think that is the LEAST of Obama's worries. Remember McCain has to unify his base, and can't ...
stray too far from Repuke orthodoxy in the GE. I'd like to see what McCain says about drivers' licenses for undocumented immigrants. Voting for HRC does NOT mean someone will probably or even in a more-than-usual proportion shift over to the GOP.

On the other hand, if Obama wins, prepare for about 7+ months (from some point in March to just about the election) of "liberal"-baiting of Obama, trying to rustle up the same level of antipathy against Obama as already exists against Hillary. I think if Obama successfully hammers away at the question DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STICK IT OUT INDEFINITELY IN IRAQ WITH McCAIN?, then a victory in November would be EASIER than beating HRC has been. Obama has had to work political MIRACLES to get where he is now.

If you had said to me that Obama would carry at least 13 states on Tsunami Tuesday, HRC's most formidable firewall, even three weeks ago (say in the aftermath of the S Carolina Primary) I'd have thought you were either joshing or spinning.

Here's my analysis of where the Dem primary race stands now, with Obama as the current candidate to beat:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4429972
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:52 PM
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5. McCain turned hardline against immigration in the primary
He would have to alianate the base to flip back which would be a death wish.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:52 PM
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6. Latinos concerned with immigration do not vote Republican.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:53 PM
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8. Nope.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:00 PM
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9. I don't think so, for two reasons
There's two reasons why I don't think Obama has to worry about Latinos that much (yet at least) in a general election.

1) Democrats have been getting a majority of Latino voters in general elections already (in 2006 anyway)

2) It depends on what the democrat and republican nominee says about stuff like immigration, and how they vote on stuff. Neither Obama or McCain will want to be painted as favoring amnesty, as they'd lose far more votes then they'd gain. On the other hand I would guess they wouldn't want to lose Latino voters by favoring some super hard line approach like "we must spend hundreds of billions of dollars kicking illegal immigrants out of the US".
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