Obama has more delegates, states, donations, money, and votes!!!

[mckeown1128]

Are any of you fired up and ready to go?

[GreenTea]

1. No.....I'm still laughing about Alaska!

A total of 406 people voted in the biggest (area) state in the country.....Shit, DU has more people voting in some of it's polls....

[mckeown1128]

2. Wow that would be funny....except for the fact that it

was a caucus state. Oh.. don't you feel stupid.

[Tom Rinaldo]

3. Obama has less votes. And he has less delegates n/t

[mckeown1128]

4. Not true....

He has one more pledged delegates.

He also has more votes if you leave out MI and FL were NO campaigning took place, where in MI Obama's name wasn't on the ballot, were all the democrats knew ahead of time that there were going to be no delegates.

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. You can leave out MI where he wasn't on the ballot

but Florida's 1.5 million voters may have been disenfranchised of their delegates, but there is too much history of them being literally disenfranchised of the actual votes that they went out to cast previoulsy for any Good Democrat to play into taking away their voice again now.

With Super Delegates included, Clinton is now ahead. If they change sides, Obama may pull ahead. But facts remain facts.

[1awake]

6. No one is planning anything

it is done already. Their votes do not count, end of discussion. Is it right? no, but it is a situation needing to be resolved between the voters and the Florida Dem party. It wasn't Hillary, or Obama, or Dean who caused this.. it was Florida itself. Maybe they can have a new Caucus at some point in the future, but I even doubt that will happen. Those are the facts.

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. When "counting" popular votes rather than delegates won

of course those popular votes "count. They just don't count toward winning delegates. That is the whole reason why anyone bothers to present the counts seperately in the first place. Al Gore's popular vote win in 2000 didn't send him to the White House, but those votes "counted" in determining which candidate won the most votes.

[mckeown1128]

13. their votes were invalid because they broke the rules...

who knows how they would have voted had they been voting for delegates and had the campaigns had any presence there.

[Tom Rinaldo]

14. Their delegates currently will not be seated because Florida broke the rules

But their votes can still be counted. And I'm sorry, but it simply wasn't close in Florida. California is a good case in point for comparison sake. Obama campaigned like Hell in Cilifornia, and the Kennedy's were a big part of his campaign for the last week. Clinton won California by 10%. Ted Kennedy endorsed Obam on January 28th. Florida voted on January 29th. The huge media fascination with the Kennedy endorsements of Obama had barely brushed the surface before the Florida vote.

[MH1]

7. Fired up, ready to go!!

Obama kicked some butt last night. 13 states to 8 and leading in the last one.

Won Missouri, the so-called bellwether state. Won the pledged delegate count.

In a couple states Obama's percent was around 75%.

And 32 million in donations in one month!! Small donors, with room to give again!

He's in a great place now, considering he started as a cheeky upstart. :)

Gobama!!

[thevoiceofreason]

9. And better ideas

Have you seen his energy plan? It's freaking brilliant! To the point that HRC is cannibalizing some of his ideas.

[Rageneau]

10. Not to mention the support of the Republicans and the MSM!!

No doubt about it, the media and the rightwing punditry have never met a candidate they like as much as Obama. They gush and gush and say more nice things about him than they do about all their OWN candidates combined. In fact, they say as many good things about OBama as they do bad things about Hillary.

Obama supporters may take a lot of pleasure, even pride, in that fact.

Like fattened turkeys take pleasure in how well they are eating today.

[BlackVelvet04]

11. Part of the problem with the

"feel good, goosebumpy" type of campaign is you are in constant need of getting pumped up. Sort of like how a junkie needs heroin.

[mohc]

12. Not so sure on the votes.

While he certainly leads in states-won and donations, and will probably lead in pledged delegates after they finish counting, he almost certainly will not lead in votes. Many of Obama's wins have come in caucus states, while Clinton has won more primaries. As there are far more votes cast in a primary than in a caucus, I am willing to bet Clinton leads in this category. And no I am not including Florida or Michigan.