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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:59 PM
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Obama, speaking to reporters at a press conference this morning, had a novel response to Hillary's r
Obama, speaking to reporters at a press conference this morning, had a novel response to Hillary's recent insinuation that the GOP would have an easier time swift-boating him in a general election:

"The Clinton research operation is about as good as anybody's out there," Obama said. "I assure you that, having engaged in a contest against them for the last year, that they've pulled out all the stops."

"I think that what we've shown is that, you know, we can take a punch — we're still standing," Obama continued.
<snip>

Separately, at the presser, Obama also made some interesting comments about his route to the nomination, saying that he'll amass a higher total of pledged delegates as a way of putting pressure on committed super-delegates to honor the Democratic process, forgo back-room politics, and back the candidate with the most public support.

"If this contest comes down to super-delegates, I think we're going to be able to say that we have more pledged delegates — meaning that the Democratic voters have spoken," Obama said. "And I think that those SD's who are elected officials, party insiders, would have to think long and hard about how they approach the nomination when the people they claim to represent have said, `Obama's our guy.'"

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_of_course_i_can_handle_t.php
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:03 PM
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1. I think Hillary's "Swift-boating" comment was a warning
to the repukes, not a threat to Sen. Obama.

But, maybe I'm wrong. I'll have another listen if I can find it on youtube.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:05 PM
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3. I thought it was aimed at the media. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:13 PM
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13. and their owners, the GOP
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:05 PM
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2. It's refreshing to have someone who answers questions truthfully
as opposed to NOT
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:08 PM
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6. Truth is Repubs do not get black vote, no reason for them to coddle Obama.
They will dissect this guy, any Democrat who acts surprised by this including Obama...Is either naive or lying.
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:10 PM
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9. Go back to your Rush show, Hillbot. It doesn't sell.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:15 PM
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15. fiddle faddle. repukes know quite well that they run a huge risk
of blowback if they try and make it about race. And furthermore, this has been openly discussed by conservative pundits and analysts. They'll attack him on lots of things- his race won't be part of it, except with covert dog whistle stuff. And if Hillary is the nominee they'll be equally careful about gender. The pukes are obviously smarter than you. How sad for you, fishy.
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REDFISHBLUEFISH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:06 PM
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4. Clinton cannot afford to alienate traditional democratic voters
This makes Obama claim to having "all the stops pulled out aganst him" LAUGHABLE.

The guy is either lying or has absolutely no clue what he is talking about.

Take your pik! Trust me Republicans will slander him, point out facyts and pretty much turn Obama negative ratings into a very large number. It is what they do best. Obamas best not be this stupid, if he is we need to get him out of the Senate. GET REAL OBAMA!
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awaysidetraveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:09 PM
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8. We're alienated. There's no way in hell I would ever vote for HRC.
And I'm not alone.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:15 PM
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14. Hmmm...you just called a poster a Hillbot and said you would never vote for
HRC. So are you going to vote for McCain?:shrug:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:07 PM
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5. I saw Obama say that on TV.
But it sounded more like this...

"The Clinton research operation is uh uh uh (long pause) about as good as uh uh anybody's out there," Obama said. "I assure you that, uh uh uh having engaged in a uh uh contest against them for the last year, that they've uh pulled out all the stops."

"I think that uh (pause) what we've shown is that, (pause) you know, we can take a punch — (pause) we're still standing," Obama continued.

Not as sharp and snarky as it could've been.

And you left out Sargent's refutation and Obama's "let's change all the current party rules" part:

With apologies to Hillary research kingpin Judd Legum, the Clinton research operation, while very aggressive, is hardly comparable to the GOP attack machine, is it?

Separately, at the presser, Obama also made some interesting comments about his route to the nomination, saying that he'll amass a higher total of pledged delegates as a way of putting pressure on committed super-delegates to honor the Democratic process, forgo back-room politics, and back the candidate with the most public support.

"If this contest comes down to super-delegates, I think we're going to be able to say that we have more pledged delegates — meaning that the Democratic voters have spoken," Obama said. "And I think that those SD's who are elected officials, party insiders, would have to think long and hard about how they approach the nomination when the people they claim to represent have said, `Obama's our guy.'"

Kinda sad.

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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:11 PM
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12. It's a good thing that he wants the people to decide this thing
Rather than politicians who are in line trying to get their back scratched by the Clinton's and angle for that special position within the administration.


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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:16 PM
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16. the Clinton research operation...is hardly comparable to the GOP attack machine"
And you're calling other people naive?

:rofl:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:22 PM
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19. I didn't call anyone naive.
I just added the rest of the blog post the OP left out.

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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:08 PM
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7. Excellent! Sen. Obama has his sleeves figuratively rolled up!
I look forward to more of this kind of talk from the underdog candidate.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:11 PM
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10. This is all pretty simple... if Obama win more delegates in the primary
process, the party establishment in the form of SDs, should not thwart the voters' will by ovrturning that result. If Clinton wins the most, the same goes for her. So let's play it out and see what happens.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:11 PM
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11. wow hes really cocky.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:27 PM
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20. Frontrunners usually are.
Or maybe the Obamenis is starting to develop?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:31 PM
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22. Now he's the frontrunner? Many of his followers are claiming he's the underdog.
The David to Hillary's Goliath.

I suppose you all see it differently, depending on your personal analysis. It's nice to be perceived as the winner, especially when in the minds of most Americans it's become the horse race that the media is so fervently nourishing.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:42 PM
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23. I really do think he is based on several quantifiable factors.
Money, polls and trends all favor Sen Obama as of this morning. Of course that could change tomorrow, so who knows. I'm not a fanboy, so whatever happens is fine with me as long as we win in Nov.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:16 PM
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17. I don't think Clinton pulled out all the stops.
That is not usually done in a primary anyway. But she may come at him if it looks like he will overtake her. Right now she has more delegates than he does. I think he sounds a little cocky to me, especially by saying the SD's will have to go to his side. They will do whatever the hell they want.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:14 PM
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26. It's his life, he knows exactly where the "stops" are.
he knows exactly what Hillary's opposition research has found. If he's confident (and who of us really knows if he REALLY is), he is confident for a reason.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:19 PM
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18. he thinks that was "pull all the stops"??
is he serious? he thinks what he gets from the Clinton campaign is 'attacks',and 'pull all the stops'?? oh good lord, he's more naive than i thought...this is flowers compared to what the GOP will throw at him if he gets nominated
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:29 PM
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21. That was my reaction.
Every day, in every way, he proves how inexperienced he is, a political neophyte when he speaks for himself instead of Axelrod doing the talking. Time for another celebrity endorsement to provide cover.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:46 PM
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24. well, Obama probably didn't consider YOUR strategy of saying "yes, we're weak but we'll win anyway"
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 01:46 PM by cryingshame
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:49 PM
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25. One thing about the GOP attack machine this year: It may not
be that revved up if it is McCain. Thats a fact.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:25 PM
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27. I have a feeling the Huckster will be his VP
and it will be like the maverick and the preacher, or more likely the angry old man with the fitness-minded hick. If nothing else, I hope Huck encourages more Americans to exercise and eat right.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:28 PM
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28. Agreed, they hate their candidates.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 05:29 PM by cottonseed
The same people that run the attack machinery, detest their candidates this year. They may not even rev the thing up.
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