I advocate a second round in Florida and Michigan, with only Obama and Clinton on the ballot.

[Colobo]

Let's do it in May, if by the end of March we don't have a clear frontrunner.

[DrDan]

1. being from Florida - I would support that . . . and gladly vote again

to be heard

(even though my first choice was not included)

[still_one]

2. Either do that or don't seat the delegates. If they seat the delagate without that

you can count on my not voting for President in 2008

because it would be extremely unfair to the candidates who were told by the DNC NOT to run in those states

Since the idea makes sense, I doubt it will be done

[Bodhi BloodWave]

3. *booming voice* SUDDEN DEATH

Hehe, couldn't resist, it reminded me to much of some fighting games when you have equal health and time is out

I like the idea tho :)

[bunnies]

4. And campaigning in both.

Id be for that as well.

[Colobo]

6. We Floridians deserve to be counted.

[Barack_America]

5. As long as you're going to donate to help Michigan foot the bill...

...I say 'fine'. If not, then 'no'. There are more pressing needs for the citizens of Michigan than solving a spat between Democratic parties.

[Colobo]

7. How much does a caucus cost? If that is cheaper, let's do it!

[Big Blue Marble]

18. I think that the DNC would have to have a special fundraising effort

so that the burden of the redo does not fall on the states. It would be a benefit to the party
to have a fair outcome. It should be worth it to pay for it.

[Alexander]

8. I agree completely. Re-do the primary.

[Colobo]

9. Amen!

[KaryninMiami]

10. I agree- what can we do to make this happen? It's the only fair thing to do.

Any ideas? The problem is I'm sure, going to come down to the cost since running a second primary would need to be funded by someone and the States are not going to foot the bill. Therefore, it will need to come from, I assume the DNC or local party chapters and we are talking a serious amount of money to run an actual primary.

[Colobo]

12. A caucus then? Is that cheaper?

[KaryninMiami]

20. I have no idea but either way, we're talking millions of $$ I would assume-

between staffing, public locations to hold the caucaus or primaries, machines and or tabulators, etc. I know that Florida doesn't have money in the budget for this- nor should, in all fairness, the state be responsible for paying for this (nor would they, given that FL is a GOP run state). So, I don't know what would have to happen. Maybe we could do this with absentee/mail in ballots which would require some money but less overall...

[cloudythescribbler]

11. It's a good idea that I would support, tho it has a snowball's chance in Hell ...

of actually happening. Obama will just have to try to get to a majority of delegates from now plus the remaining states, which isn't easy.

If Obama gets in the lead of delegates and approaches the 50% mark of the Democratic total, then I suspect that superdelegates and other Democrats will start seriously coalescing behind him. Hillary has, barring some scandal or media feeding frenzy or Obama blunder, shot her wad at this point. The election is Obama's to lose.

[Onlooker]

13. The only fair way is to apportion the delegates ...

... for Florida and Michigan based on where Obama and Clinton stand after all the other races, so if Obama won 51% of the delegates, then he would get 51% of the delegates from both Florida and Michigan. To appease the state parties, which would be important for the general election, allow them to decide for themselves how to choose superdelegates.

It is really important that Florida and Michigan be seated, but to have new elections or count the old elections would be unfair to both campaigns.

[denem]

14. The only States in history to have two Dem Primaries

- because we are important and we must be counted.

Huge news everywhere. How to turn a negative into a positive in my book.

[Perky]

24. Adds new meaning to the phrase: Vote Early Vote Often

[scheming daemons]

15. The Clinton campaign would resist this STRONGLY....

...they would cry about "no do-overs!" and the old Rove-ian canard, "Just keep voting until you get the result you want!"


It is a fantastic idea, but Clinton's campaign would never go for it. They would argue that it is "not fair" to ask the people of MI and FL to vote twice.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

19. You seem to enjoy being outraged more than you enjoy being right

[Perky]

26. They would have to allow it ultimately

the exisiting delegations would not be seated otherwise.

[Barack_America]

16. The other problem is that the Dem candidates are going to be wasting money...

campaigning in these states, when that money could go to the General Election.

IMO, it's just a lose-lose situation all around.

[pampango]

17. The money issue is important, but if we don't get Florida and Michigan

resolved fairly, the potential to hurt us in the GE may be even greater.

Unless one candidate or the other wraps it up ahead of time, which seems very unlikely, either you have to leave F & M delegates out of the selection process or come up with some arbitrary formula for dividing up their delegates without a new primary or caucus. The former is not fair to those voters (who themselves did not change the primary schedule) or the latter is not fair to the candidates who never got to compete openly in the sanctioned primary.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

21. Can they do that? anybody know?

n/t

[Perky]

23. The option is still there in FLorida and MI

they were straw polls....they were not nominating events.

[Perky]

22. There is substantial cost involved and the FL Dems wnat to use there money

for GOTV in Novemeber.


Someone is going to have to pay for it.

[jzodda]

25. If after the last state votes neither has the needed number

I would support this. It would be awesome and fun too for political junkies like all of us :)