Super Tuesday (only) Pledged Delegates: Clinton 786, Obama 775 (so far)

[jsamuel]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22419475

Before Super Tuesday Pledged Delegates
Obama - 63
Clinton - 48

Clinton down 15 pledged delegates.


After Super Tuesday Pledged Delegates (so far)
Obama 838
Clinton 834

Clinton down 4 pledged delegates.


Super Tuesday Only Pledged Delegates (so far)
Clinton 786
Obama 775

Clinton up 11 pledged delegates.

NM and more from California still to come.

Without Superdelegates (which Clinton is winning), she picked up more pledged delegates on Super Tuesday.

[Cameron27]

1. I'm getting dizzy with

these conflicting reports.

[jsamuel]

2. that is because they are including pre-super tuedsay delegates and not superdelegates

that is the only way to say that Obama is "winning"

[Cameron27]

6. Thanks,

MSNBC just put up more numbers (in the thousands) that show Clinton leading.

[Windy]

9. Total earned delegates matters. My god the spin is making me nauseous!

Please people get over yourselves. This is a tie race. Superdelegates don't matter at this point.

They can change and there is nothing set in stone. Earned delegates are set in stone.

Please....step away from your computers!!!!

[jsamuel]

21. Who said they don't matter? I was answering a very specific question about who won ST in terms of

pledged delegates.

[Meshuga]

5. We'll have to wait a couple of days before getting a reliable report

But, regardess, they all pretty much say the same thing: that the race is far from over and it could go either way.

[book_worm]

3. bottom line in any of these numbers is that they basically split the delegates and the race goes on.

[jsamuel]

4. actually, Clinton closed the gap she had from SC and Iowa

[book_worm]

10. yes, she has a huge lead. I wonder who will be ahead after the next week of contests in

WA, VA, DC, MD, ME, NE?

[jsamuel]

13. who knows, but the point is that she closed the gap on ST (without needing superdelegates)

[book_worm]

20. The point is that it's pretty much dead even

and Obama still won more states and probably will be leading in delegates total after this week. I hope you excitedly post that next week.

[jsamuel]

24. I am not sure that is true, we will have to wait and see if either is ahead after this week.

[malta blue]

7. per msnbc's website it is Obama 838 Clinton 834. nt

[jsamuel]

8. that includes IA, NH, NV, and SC. If you look at only Super Tuesday, Clinton is winning pledged.

[Windy]

11. why in the hell would you only look at super tuesday in a general primary election?

this is a delegate race for all the marbles, just just super tuesday.

Wow... gotta make it look like she's winning no matter how silly you seem.

[jsamuel]

16. all the estimates that Obama people are posting do not include superdelegates.

besides, people want to know who won yesterday as well as who is winning so far

[tammywammy]

12. But it's the total number of delegates that count

Not just who won what on Super Tuesday.

[jsamuel]

14. Sure, and when all the delegates are counted, she wins with the superdelegates.

[leftynyc]

15. You mean the Obama campaign

LIED?!! I'm stunned, shocked, flumoxed, farshimmilled, farclempt. Did they think nobody would notice?

[cali]

17. LOL! this parsing is a riot. It's tied in every conceivable way

except for SDs- and even there there isn't a huge gap. And by Saturday night Obama will be ahead again. And by next Tuesday night he'll be even further ahead. But that's not anything for Obama supporters to crow about. Get it through your head: barring something catastrophic happening to one of the campaigns, this is convention bound. There's no way it can be settled without the SDs and perhaps MI and FL.

[jsamuel]

19. it isn't parsing, it is looking at the numbers

It is totally tied, but that was not what I was looking at. I was trying to see who won Super Tuesday in terms of pledged delegates.

[MadHound]

18. So in other words, what you're saying is that Obama is still ahead in pledged delegates

And Hillary is going to take the very non-democratic route and rather than let the people decide, she's going to twist super-delegates arms to get her the nomination. Classy:eyes: Of course, if that is the case, if this is decided by the super delegates rather than the people, a lot of people are going to abandon Hillary in the fall, more than are already lined up to abandon her.

[AlinPA]

22. Thanks. Is there one place (not a media organization) who has these numbers? Just asking.

[jsamuel]

23. not that I know of, it is all just estimates at this point