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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:34 PM
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Just for the record, the $5 Million loan was in January
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
It's not something the Clinton campaign did this morning, it is something they did to cover some pre-super Tuesday ad buys.

It certainly suggests a lack of cash any way you look at it, but the reports on TV are erroneously suggesting it's a post super-Tuesday campaign move, rather than something from more than a week ago.

Facts are good things.

"Clinton Loaned Herself $5M In January"

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/clinton_loaned_herself_5m_in_j.php
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:35 PM
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1. So they're even more broke than we thought
Thanks, Kurt.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:37 PM
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4. I know!
and it's having a horrible effect on her polling numbers too!

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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:38 PM
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Oh that is terrible.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:40 PM by Sannum
:D
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:48 PM
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23. Is this part of your "Grow the fuck up or get out" rebellion?
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:56 PM
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27. I thought it was funny.
Shoot me.

I am not on the side of either candidate right now.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:03 PM
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29. Hard to be the adult in the room when you are behaving the same as the children n/t
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:38 PM
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8. dupe
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:40 PM by Sannum
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:38 PM
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9. dupe
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:40 PM by Sannum
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:46 PM
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21. You do realized that those numbers are from before it was publicly known
that Clinton has been out of money and self funding since before the end of 2007?
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:36 PM
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2. It's just a fact they happened to admit to after SuperTues...which makes them look like even bigger
fucking assholes.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM
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18. Thats your swan song
as far as I am concerned. cya.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:36 PM
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3. Whoa, so that $5 mil was including in the $13 total?!
OMG
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:42 PM
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13. ***deleted in face of better evidence
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:45 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM
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15. Wolfson said that it was...
Someone posted a link to his quote earlier.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM
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16. It was
Actual raised: about $8MM
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:37 PM
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5. People stumble over facts sometimes,
but they never let them stand in their way. Thanks for the info Kurt.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:37 PM
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6. Facts are good things with reputable links.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:43 PM
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14. Good point > added to OP
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:37 PM
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7. And they should have disclosed it in the 13.5 total for January
The fact that they waited until today is...interesting.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:50 PM
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24. Wonder if honesty would have changed any undecided voter's opinions
$10 million transfer from senate coffers before December 31st - $5 million loan before January 31st - shhhh don't tell anybody :eyes:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:51 PM
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25. My point exactly
It stinks.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:06 PM
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30. The campaign definitely should be pressed on how much more
money Clinton loans her campaign prior to the Feb. 9th and Feb. 12th contests. (And should come clean about the $10 million transfer and the $5 million debt that was swept under the carpet). Nothing to see here...just a successful campaign! One to be proud of!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:38 PM
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10. And how much has she donated since then??
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM
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17. Nobody knows
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:52 PM
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26. 'Loaned' that way her supporters can pay her back
:crazy:

That is a good question that should be asked of her before the February 9th and February 12th events.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:38 PM
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11. I am not worried about Hillary's money. She will be fine.
In fact I think I will donate right now!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:39 PM
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12. It was done at the end of January when it was clear she did not have enough funds for 2/5
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 04:39 PM by JackORoses
Announcing this now is a desperate attempt to get people to donate out of sympathy.
It's like they're saying, "OK, this is your last chance for a Woman President, so get out those checkbooks!"
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:44 PM
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19. Don't forget the $10 million transfer from her senate coffers in the last quarter
of 2007. (and the $5 million in debt she carried over from 2007 either) x(
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:46 PM
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20. If that is true then they only raised $8M and that means were raising oney 4x as fast
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adabfree Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:47 PM
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22. I sent another $500 to Obama
whoooo hooooo
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:57 PM
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28. Maybe she'll endorse Obama if he promises to do some fundraising for her, so she gets her $5M back.
Happens all the time in election campaigns....(insert sort-of-jokey thingy here)
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