Donna Brazile threatening to quit the Democratic Party if superdelegates decide the nomination!

[BluegrassDem]

And she is a SD herself (uncommitted). Denver's gonna be a bloodbath if the SD's pick the nominee, especially if it goes against the committed delegates. She's not alone either. There's gonna be a lot of people quitting the party if some shenaningans go on backstage in Denver.

[Mags]

1. by-by

[anamandujano]

17. I believe it's spelled "BUH BYE" and I completely agree.

I'm sure Karl Rove will find a spot for her in his party.

[tekisui]

2. And a lot of young voters who will leave as quickly as they came.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

11. Not convinced they would vote in significant numbers in the general anyway.

[tekisui]

18. Niether am I.

If Obama got the nomination, I am sure they would. If Clinton got the nod, I would hope they would be active and loyal, but who knows? If it's decided by superdelegates, and it's not Obama?

Forget it.

[slick8790]

29. Absolutely agree.

As a member of this "youth" that everyone bags on so much, I can tell you that Obama is getting people excited to vote democratic. Clinton is turning people off. Don't ask me why, it's just what i see.

[debatepro]

32. It's called a claim...

Your missing the data...

I mean they will caucus for hours on end but not vote in the general election.

[incapsulated]

More unity from the Obama camp

You don't like superdelgates, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ONE.

Oh, wait, that only works if it means an Obama win.

[mondo joe]

3. Well, yes, that would be quite the loss, given her string of amazing successes

on our behalf.

[incapsulated]

lol n/t

[Richardo]

7. Everybody, chant with me! Jump! Jump! Jump!

I agree with you mondo. :patriot:

[Mags]

10. That is so funny and true!

[golddigger]

23. Ouch...lol n/t

[calimary]

33. No kidding.

:eyes:

[racaulk]

50. Ba-ZING!

:rofl:

[gateley]

4. Dean does NOT want this party to split -- do you think they will do something

to guard against that?

[rinsd]

5. Quit anyway Donna!

[northzax]

6. well, unless someone has the required number

going into Denver, there will be shennanigans behind the scenes. just how do you think this works? how do you get committed delegates to switch?

[RetroLounge]

8. Donna Brazile is a Democrat?

Who knew?

:shrug:

RL

[LisaM]

15. Hey! I was going to use that line!

LOLOL.

[RetroLounge]

34. GMTA

:hi:

RL

[Blue_State_Elitist]

9. Peace out.

[Nailzberg]

12. Well, that might just make the whole convention worth it.

[MonkeyFunk]

13. But what if Obama has more committed delegates

but Clinton leads in the popular vote?

[Hardrada]

21. A Cold Civil War I suppose.

[debatepro]

39. Delegates decide...

Just like in the GE...


Besides... the rules for aquiring pledged delegates were known to both parties... if the strategy is popular vote... then Obama wouldn't have spent his resources trying to get extra delegates in some odd congressional districts he campained in.

In this case... team obama knows the rules and they are playing better than the clintons... this is why team obama knows they one the delegate count on super tuesday before the MSM... Kudos to team obama's operations.

[MonkeyFunk]

46. The question

is what Superdelegates SHOULD do if they can decide the result.

Why should they follow the pledged delegates instead of the popular vote?

[Homer12]

14. Super Delgates are the NON-SMoked filled room

way of fixing the nomination in a non-democratic way.

HYPORCRITES. FUCK YOU DLC.

[SoxFan]

35. You mean DNC

The superdelegate concept predates the DLC by a decade.

[newmajority]

16. I never thought I would say this, but Donna Brazile is right.

:wow: let me get over the shock of saying that for a second :wow:

OK, now as I was saying, she's right. It will be a bloodbath. Same thing if Hillary gets away with the Michigan/Florida scam.

The frontloaded primaries are already disenfranchisement enough, with most of the country only having 2 candidates to pick from, and some not even being that "lucky". If even that limited choice is taken away from the people, they aren't going to like it.

[Missy M]

19. Wow, could we possibly be that lucky.....

I sure hope she holds to her promise. I, for one, wouldn't be sad to see her go.

[Cleita]

20. Isn't Donna Brazille a Clintonite?

Does this mean if Obama prevails that all the Clinton supporters will quit the Party and vote for McCain in the general election? It seems to go down that road. So much for party unity.

[Horse with no Name]

26. Well you know that the party is split

and many Obamites will NOT vote for Hillary...and many Clintonites will NOT vote for Obama.
We can all thank the PPP (perpetual primary process).

[MonkeyFunk]

53. No

she's supporting Obama.

[sfam]

56. YES, she most certainly is.

Although if she appears neutral, she gets to keep her spot in the limelight.

[jlake]

22. Now there's a reason to let the superdelegates decide if I ever heard one.

Bye Bye Brazile!

[angie_love]

24. If superdelegates decide this, lots of democrats will quit the party not just her

Shes voicing what alot of other democrats are saying. And shes voicing it out in the media. I don't blame her. If superdelegates decide the nominee, I won't vote for either one in the election. Let the people have their say NOT the politicians. If this happens then democracy doesn't mean a fucking thing and your vote doesn't matter anyway.

[jlake]

27. You can't try to change the rules once the game has started.

The superdelegates exist for a reason.

[angie_love]

31. But the superdelegates should go with who their constituents want not what they themselves want

Isn't the point to represent the people? not themselves?

[jlake]

38. That is not the role or point of superdelegates.

They can choose to do that, as Barbara Boxer has, but their vote is their vote - hence the "super" part.

[angie_love]

40. Well I don't think it will come to that

More likely is they'll seat the FL and MI delegates or have caucuses in those states before the superdelegates get a chance. Thats what I think.

[jlake]

41. The superdelegates always vote, so I am not sure what this is all about.

Some of them do not even have a constituency to answer to.
Hopefully MI & FL will hold new Primary elections and their delegates will be seated.

[backscatter712]

45. Yeah - to remove democracy from the Democratic Party.

They want to ensure the nominee is chosen in smoke-filled rooms by party elites, and have a way to override the popular vote.

If you have a more plausible reason, let's hear it.

[jlake]

47. Do you even know the history of superdelegates?

This is not "smoke filled rooms" ... why don't you do some research before you make these wild claims.

[newmajority]

48. Unless you're DLC hacks in Florida & Michigan

Then you can ignore the rules and Hillary will pretend they don't exist.

[UALRBSofL]

42. It's pretty obvious this isn't a typical election cycle

With a woman and an AA in the race I can see gender/race being a major issue and then who knows what could happen?

[lurky]

25. If the will of the people is overridden by

the party bosses, there will be big problems for the Democrats. I know I will be screaming at the top of my lungs.

Is quitting the best solution? I don't know -- What other recourse do we have when the leadership dismisses the will of the rank and file.

[mondo joe]

30. Hm, is the will of the people overriden when we do not seat delegates from FL?

?

[lurky]

52. HRC is being disingenuous with this argument.

But yes, I will be pissed if those delegates are the margin that decides the nomination, seated or not. The only solution I can see is to have an actual campaign in FL and MI followed by a primary or caucus.

[kstewart33]

28. Good for her. nt

[BigDDem]

36. buh bye

take care!

[Ikonoklast]

37. I'll miss her.

Bless her DLC triangulating heart.

[lastliberalintexas]

43. Threatens or PROMISES?

Will she also take Carville and Begala with her? Maybe we could pay them?

[SaveOurDemocracy]

44. Buh Bye ...

[usregimechange]

49. I will too, they are undemocratic and disgusting

[TeamJordan23]

51. Agree. They will ruin the Dem party if they don't follow the pledged delegates. nm

[Tropics_Dude83]

54. HOW DARE YOU?

I could load my post up with expletives but I won't because it will get deleted. My CAPS is not to try to dominate the argument but to emphasize my RAGE. FIRST DU SAYS TEDDY KENNEDY IS A DINO, THEN JOHN KERRY IS A DINO, THEN CLAIRE MCKSASKILL IS A DINO. THESE ARE THE LEADERS OF OUR PARTY!! DONNA BRAZILLE SAVED AL GORE'S CAMPAIGN IN 2000 AND WON THE POPULAR VOTE FOR US.

HOW DARE YOU GUYS SO GLIBLY SAY GOOD BYE TO ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. HOW F***ING DARE YOU!! HOW F****ING DARE YOU. HOW F*ING DARE YOU!!!

Anybody that doesn't support DU's preferred candidate, HRC, is a DINO I guess. Do any of you have any idea what Brazille, Kennedy, Kerry, Mckaskill have done for our party.

FYI, Donna is not pro-Obama. She, in fact, seems slightly pro Hillary.

How f*ing dare you.

[WCGreen]

55. Don't let the door hit you on the ass...

Donna, I have lost more elections than I have won, Brazille...