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Wed Feb-06-08 06:25 PM
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CAMPAIGN ETHICS: Would that require that Clinton DISCLOSE BEFORE NOT AFTER |
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she dropped 5m of her personal money into the Super Tuesday adds and Hallmark show
An honest question. Maybe not. I could have benefited her to disclose. Should the public know where the money is coming from.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:27 PM
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1. you are required to report to the FEC quarterly |
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that's it. that is the legal requirement.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:28 PM
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2. Candidates file monthy reports during this year. First one is due for Jan 2008 Feb 20th. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:28 PM
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so she would report that on Feb. 20th.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:29 PM
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4. What is legal is not always ethical or moral. nt |
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:42 PM
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7. Exactly. It is worth discussion. Being politics as usual is not an answer. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:45 PM
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9. ok, so where's Obama's list |
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of the source of the $32million he made such hay from? oh, we have to wait until the reporting deadline?
goose meet gander. enjoy.
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:53 PM
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18. you want the whole list of 250,000 folks? |
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:55 PM
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just the ones who gave more than fifty bucks.
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:57 PM
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23. It will be out in a couple of weeks |
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Wed Feb-06-08 08:05 PM
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Wed Feb-06-08 08:00 PM
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24. actually they only have to report $ 200 up |
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More striking, the report found that nearly half of Obama’s individual contributors in the fourth quarter of 2007 gave donations of $200 or less — amounts so small that the Federal Election Commission doesn’t even demand the givers be named on disclosure reports.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:32 PM
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5. Ethics is right. It's not ethical to put the money in and not report it. |
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She should have reported it the day she did it. That would have been ethical. But they were not concerned with the ethics.
Isn't it unethical to loan a campaign money while telling contributors the campaign is in great shape? Isn't it unethical to hide that information from media and supporters?
Something can be legal and still be unethical. Helping the dictator of Oilbekistan, for example, may be legal, but it's not ethical.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:59 PM
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10. and was it equally ethical |
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for the obama campaign to announce their numbers without providing any details of sources? Based on an estimate? What if it was really 28 million? Or 30? We don't know, they didn't know yet. If the number is off when the actual filing is done in 14 days, which it is almost certain to be by some amount, will you be saying the same thing?
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:01 PM
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sell crazy somewhere else
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:13 PM
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Here I thought you wanted disclosure?
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:02 PM
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12. media always asks for approx number at end of month not at filing |
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:39 PM
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15. The problem with your premise is that donations to Obama are |
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public record. The last time I googled my name, I turned up a listing of my donations.
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:40 PM
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16. Donations to Obama in Jan are not yet of public record. FEC reports are due Feb 20th. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:52 PM
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17. So.......... your premise is that after running a clean campaign for |
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12 months, Obama suddenly resorted to dirty money last month?
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:56 PM
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20. Not at all. I am merely describing reporting procedures. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:56 PM
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21. your insinuation is that Hillary did |
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goose, meet gander. I think you'll get along.
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Wed Feb-06-08 07:03 PM
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13. who gave to Obama yesterday? |
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Don't know? Neither do I. Do I care? Nope. I'll find out when the next required report comes out.
If you want to go on a crusade for ethics, at least try to be even handed about it.
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Wed Feb-06-08 06:35 PM
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6. ...the desperation is real |
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22. Apparently Bill Clinton thinks so. |
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