Dean Screams (Calmly) for an “Arrangement” to avoid brokered convention

[Herman Munster]

http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/06/dean-screams-for-an-arrangement/

DNC topper says delegate deadlock is dodo: ”We’re going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of an arrangement. Because I don’t think we can afford to have a brokered convention.” Watch the NY1 clip here.

A Dean adviser clarifies: “He was essentially laying down a marker that if need be, he is prepared to step in and try to help resolve the situation…” Read full statement here.

[NC_Nurse]

1. Let everyone vote first.

Then decide what to do.

[joshcryer]

2. WOW, EPIC. YES DEAN.

DEAN IS A POLITICAL GENIUS. NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS.

[Ken Burch]

3. self-deleted.

self-delete.

[crispini]

4. Where does he say he might step aside?

[joshcryer]

5. WTF are you on about? He's suggesting, albeit subtly, that one of the candidates...

...will have to just cede and let the other have the nomination, because a brokered convention is the last thing the party needs!

[Herman Munster]

6. no

what he's suggesting is a joint ticket.

[joshcryer]

7. Yes, I know, but one of them will have to cede to the other for the Presidential Nomination.

Duh. Who would it be?

[Lilsarah]

23. He means Clinton-Obama

[Ken Burch]

11. Misunderstood the headling.

self-delete.

[LoZoccolo]

13. It actually looks more like a 48 state strategy anyways. n/t

[my2sense]

8. He better come up with a plan

No way can we afford a nasty fight at the convention.

[joshcryer]

12. God! Dean is a genius! OMFG! What a great man! People keep this kicked!

Look at that video!

[Samantha]

9. I am not sure the Honorable Doctor Dean can cure this problem

Judging from last night's threads, it's difficult to see how the Clinton and Obama camps can peacefully co-exist in the White House for the next term or two. I think there's going to have be a declared winner in the electoral process.

[joshcryer]

14. He most absolutely can. He controls the superdelegates, in the end.

Really, he does.

[Samantha]

27. That is a facade

If you truly think Dean can control the likes of Teddy Kennedy or Chuck Shumer, there's nothing I can say here to change your mind. I am not of your school of thought on this matter, so perhaps we should just leave it at that.

By the time this process gets to the convention if there is no apparent clear frontrunner, I look for the damage between the two camps to be permanent in nature. I admire Dean, but the blood is already running in the political streets; he might be able to help heal physical wounds but the wounds being incurred now are of a quite different nature. I just hope he doesn't get pulverized in the process.

[gateley]

15. Animosity between them would really hurt our progress in the WH - I don't

know how realistic it is to think they could kiss and make up and really mean it.

[joshcryer]

17. They could.

[Samantha]

28. I have a really difficult time seeing that happen

In fact I can't see it at all. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama cannot work together. They have totally different principles and different levels of integrity. Obama would be faced with the same dilemma Al Gore faced in 1992, when Clinton privately offered him a co-presidency to be on the ticket. Gore wavered and said yes when Clinton offered him total control over 8 spheres of interest, but privately stewed over whether the "sleaze" factor might backwash on him should he choose to pursue the presidency himself at the end of Clinton's term. Obama, I think, would acknowledge privately that same risk that Gore did, but Obama, now with the knowledge in his hand of how that Clinton association tanked Gore's 2000 run, would NOT take the risk. He would choose to get the Presidency on his own without a Clinton influence. That's just my opinion.

[earthlover]

29. Clinton made it harder for Gore to win....that meant....Bush for 8 years...thanks bill!

[Samantha]

30. Gore had a reputation in Washington as having the highest level

of integrity (despite the Gore is a Liar refrain spouted by the Bush* cabal). That level of integrity might possibly (excuse the expression) be stained with an association with someone the public and the press was already speculating was probably pretty sleazy....

I don't think Obama would want the sleaze factor impacting his future.

I don't think that alone, the Clinton affiliation, cost Gore the Presidency, but it certainly did not help him win it either. In Tennessee, home of millions of Southern Baptists, Dems in droves left the party as a result of the Intern factor, and they voted Republican in the next election. Gore lost Tennessee by 70,000 votes.

[gateley]

10. I heard him yesterday say he was hoping for a combo ticket. nt

[LoZoccolo]

16. More lack of tact by Dean: he should not be telling this to the world.

Making an arrangement like this in public is as bad as a brokered convention if not worse. You get all the bad publicity plus the resentment of volunteers who have been working hard for a candidate.

[joshcryer]

18. It would still be the choice of the candidates! He's just saying they will have to "talk."

If the margins are still close by the time the convention comes around it makes the most sense! Fuck the whole brokered convention thing! We can't afford it!

[LoZoccolo]

19. I don't want a brokered convention either.

I just don't want Dean letting everyone know that he had to specifically do something to avoid a brokered convention. You get the same perception of lack of confidence in the candidate that way. If he wants to get them to talk he should do it in secret.

[joshcryer]

20. No, because then there would be gossip.

You know how it'll probably work. Dean will sit down, say, "OK, you have the most delegates, you get to be President. You, you have the least, you get to be the Vice President. Do you agree or shall we take it to the convention where things will get nasty?"

I doubt he's going to flip it one way or the other, it'll be fair! And it'll be common sense, out in the open, the media will say "well that was cool," and we'll move the fuck on!

[angie_love]

25. But neither one will want to be VP, I just don't see them agreeing to this easily, maybe though, who

who knows

[madfloridian]

22. Oh, jeez....he's been getting phone calls by the thousands

to reassure us he would NOT give in to the Hillary demands. He had to speak out.

[joshcryer]

21. People aren't seeing this because Herman Munster is probably on their ignore, could someone repost.

I'm out for the day, please keep this topic, in general, kicked. This is an amazing turn of events!

[Straight Shooter]

24. That's my president. My Internet connection is slow today; video won't play.

Dated Dean.
Gun-to-my-head marriage to Kerry.
Abandoned by Kerry.
Divorced Kerry.
Carrying a torch for Dean.

I hate the media. Even now, they refer to the "scream" that never was.

[Shine]

26. Interesting.....but I bet it'll be a moot point.

one of them will emerge as the clear nominee in the next 4-6 wks, I'd bet.