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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:59 PM
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Is Ron Paul the repukes Obama?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:03 PM by southernleftylady
Getting their young and and excited out to vote and starting a movement? NOT WHAT EACH OTHER STAND FOR.. but how they get young people (and older for that matter) excited about voting?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:00 PM
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1. No, it's for batshit crazies that want the government dismantled at all levels
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:22 PM by high density
so that they will not have to pay any taxes, except to run a huge military.

(edit to fix spelling error)
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:01 PM
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5. Now this is the best description of Libertarians I've seen!
Short and to the point :toast:.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:03 PM
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9. thats the repukes I meant with the excitement level and revolution talk not what they stand for nt
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:14 PM
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21. Paul is against the military.
He wants to bring all the troops home. It's Democrats and Republicans that are pro military industrial complex.

Obama is a centrist who is inspirational, full of hope and change, and is youthful. He appeals to youth for different reasons that Ron Paul.

Ron Paul appeals to Libertarians, who tend to be youthful as a group. Tech savvy idealists.

Obama has rock star appeal. Paul has the appeal of a wizened old grandfather who speaks truth to power. At least when it comes to speaking out against the MIC it's the truth. Maybe a few other positions, e.g., anti-corporate welfare.

Dennis Kucinich would be the closest analog we have to Ron Paul, but he doesn't attract many supporters. He gets marginalized by the press. He's an elf. Ron Paul is an elf too, but his supporters seem to look beyond superficial qualities to ideas.

Politically, I come closest to Kucinich, but people respond more to stars like Obama and Clinton, and the MSM that feeds their images.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:24 PM
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22. He's anti-Iraq war, yes
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:25 PM by high density
But I haven't seen anything in his positions that talk about dismantling the military. In fact I think he'd probably focus the military domestically to search for illegal aliens and at "securing" the border.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:34 PM
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32. You didn't look very hard.
A defense policy designed to keep Americans safe should start with the idea that we must secure our borders from those who would cross them to do us harm. Currently, the United States maintains hundreds of thousands of troops in more than 100 foreign countries. In many cases, they are there to defend foreign borders. Maintaining such a global empire drains nearly one trillion dollars from the U.S. economy each year, while offering very little real security for the American people. What’s worse, our U.S. Border Guards are sent overseas to places like Iraq while our own borders remain porous and vulnerable.


http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/national-defense/

You won't hear a Democrat talk like that. :)

The elephant in the room, that no status quo politician will acknowledge, is the military budget that is draining a trillion dollars a year from our country, causing our debt to be over $9 trillion dollars and we continue to deficit spend. And it is approved of by Democrats, at least half of them anyway.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:00 PM
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2. no because Ron Paul's "Young voters" aren't turning out at the polls.
it's a movement of cash, thats all.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:00 PM
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3. Except he is a crazy extremest and he isn't getting out many voters either.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:01 PM
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7. true! nt
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:04 PM
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14. Right...
His supports are very vocal but as a group they aren't the majority. I have seen more of RP signs than all other candidates combined.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:07 PM
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18. That is what I am talking about .. signs and vocal supporters nt
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:11 PM
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20. Yeah they like to be seen, and they post all over the internet too. Obnoxious
places where I have never seen anyone post anything about politics and all of a sudden like 10 ron paul post in a row. I've never seen a Clinton or Obama poster do something like that.
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:01 PM
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4. yup and I wish he were a democrat
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:04 PM
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11. Really? What postitions specifically of Ron Paul's do you agree with other than the war?
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:26 PM
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25. lower taxes, sound monetary policies and less government.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:29 PM
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27. He's not lower taxes
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:32 PM by tammywammy
He's no taxes. And less government by Paul would be no welfare, no food stamps, no governmental programs to help people.

He'd also eliminate U.S. Department of Education, U.S. Department of Energy, the US Department of Commerce,the US Department of Health and Human Services,the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Emergency Management Administration, the Interstate Commerce Commission and the Internal Revenue Service.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:26 PM
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26. I think we'd have to add a few thousand square miles to the size of our tent
for that to happen.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:01 PM
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6. *snicker*
man, what a feeble piece of shit flamebait.

:rofl:

Oh and only an idiot would actually believe a comparison between Ron Paul and Obama was meaningful.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:02 PM
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8. He's the Repukes' Kucinich.
Getting the young and kinda nutty excited and then disheartened and discouraged.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:04 PM
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13. Thats a good comparison! thank you nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:03 PM
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10. yes...Paul has deffinetly done exactly what Obama has
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:06 PM
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17. Really? What states has Paul won?
I didn't realize he was in a tie with the other candidates.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:31 PM
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29. "win" who said anything about a win ...read the OP again
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:34 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:35 PM
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30. There's no need to be nasty
And for someone commenting on my reading skills, you could use a little work in spelling.

You said " yes...Paul has deffinetly done exactly what Obama has"

Obama's won many states. If Paul's done exactly what Obama has, what states has Paul won?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:04 PM
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12. with the exception that Obama has won several states while Paul hasn't.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:05 PM
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15. yup, i think he has 9 delegates. His support is a mile wide and about a half an inch deep.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:05 PM
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16. Huckabee might be a better comparison
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:09 PM
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19. Personally, I think it started as a joke
that went viral and got out of hand
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:25 PM
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23. Oy.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:25 PM
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24. He's the republican Kucinich.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:29 PM
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28. Yeah thats a better comparison I think.. thank you! :) nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:44 PM
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31. With 16 delegates, Ron Paul is going nowhere
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:43 PM
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33. If by 'Obama' you mean the Republican who opposed the War and supports civil liberties, then yes.
His economic policies are different, but he's the best of the Republicans this year.
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