Why does the entire media love Obama, and give him a pass on everything?

[DiamondJay]

It seems whenever Obama or his camp says something, or does anything, its OK, and gets no heat, like when Jesse Jackson made the racist comment about Hillary's tears, when they twisted Bill Clinton's "fairytale" thing, why do they in general LOVE Obama? They woo when he wins states he was supposed to win like SC, GA, and LA which he is going to win in because he's black, and the media acts like its so big when he wins caucuses, but barely gets any primaries? The drive-bys talk about anything Clinton, but never Rezko, even tho the Clinton's have been cleared of everything under the sun, Obama hasn't even been looked at? They never said he pimped out michelle, but they say the clintons pimped out chelsea. Why don't they say "the ObamaS", like they say ClintonS as a plural? I could go on, but why do they LOVE Obama? Is it political correctness? Is he a good story because his race is new for a candidate?

[Kittycat]

1. Better Candidate.

[neutron]

5. He is almost a Republican - Plus he doesn't get Legislation Through like HRC

[jackson_dem]

11. So you think Bush was better than Kerry and Gore?

He got the same treatment from the msm.

[robbedvoter]

60. Perfect answer - and W actually didn't get half of this in the primaries

It all started once he secured the nomination (after stealing SC from McCain)
Up to that point MSM was gushing all over the "maverick"

[papau]

23. likely to lose as he is chosen by the red state voters who can't deliver their state in the general

Obama has now won 5 "blue states" and 13 "red"(of which 2 were "close red" in 04) - why would he be
stronger than Hillary in the general if he can not beat her in the "base" of a Democratic election victory in 08?

Below are results to date with 08 winning percent and Bush-Kerry 2004 vote totals.


Primaries

Alabama 56% 1,176,394 693,933
Connecticut 51% 693,826 857,488
Delaware 53% 171,660 200,152
Georgia 67% 1,914,254 1,366,149
Illinois 65% 2,346,608 2,891,989
Missouri 49% 1,455,713 1,259,171
South Carolina 55% 937,974 661,699
Utah 57% 663,742 241,199

Caucuses

Alaska 75% 190,889 111,025
Colorado 67% 1,101,255 1,001,732
Idaho 79% 409,235 181,098
Iowa 38% 751,957 741,898
Kansas 74% 736,456 434,993
Minnesota 67% 1,346,695 1,445,014
Nebraska 68% 512,814 254,328
North Dakota 61% 196,651 111,052
Washington 67% 1,304,894 1,510,201


Louisiana (likely win), 1,102,169 820,299

So do red state delegates determine who we nominate? - isn't that a way to lose? - The GOP give extra weight to states that voted GOP in the last election - and that seems to have worked - has the world really changed so we are better off listening to Democrats who can't deliver their state?

[Mojorabbit]

52. You are forgetting

who the republicans are running. I think if Obama gets the nomination or Hillary for that matter, when people see him/her near McCain...well our nominee is gonna look a whole lot better esp if McCain is repeating over and over how we need to stay in Iraq and perhaps do Iran. The economy is going to get worse before Nov and most people in this country have had enough. This is my hope anyway.

[Usrename]

58. Obama cleans her clock among non-Democratic and first-time voters.

It's a fact, not an opinion.

And it's just common sense, IMHO, that these people would be much more likely to continue voting for him in the general, than it would be for this particular group to switch en masse to Hillary. That is, barring any unforeseen circumstances, and just basing this opinion on what we already know from the vote so far.

I don't really see any common sense argument that can be made in favor of either candidate based only on the redstate/bluestate data. I guess some could deduce that since Obama performs better in Bush Country, then he has a better chance of picking up some of the purple states.

I wouldn't make that argument at this point, I just don't know about that.

[nebenaube]

82. He is pulling in the Reagen Democrats too..... n/t

[CalGator]

73. Damn those red states

like Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Missouri, Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, and Washington.

Seriously, do the Hillbots read anything they post?

[DiamondJay]

76. well first Iowa and MO and Colorado are red,

and CT DE and WA are blue but not deep, and they are also small, the states Obama wins primary elections in. But how about Kansas, Georgia, Idaho, utah, South Dakota, Louisiana? Those are states we will NEVER win, georgia actually bill clinton won with louisiana but the non-dems in those states will never vote for either hillary or obama.

[CalGator]

84. those are not red states

They went (pretty narrowly) for GWB in the last election, but those are swing states that have been turning a nice shade of blue since then.

[question everything]

89. Not red, but caucus where the eligibility to vote

is not checked at all.

How many students from Illinois who study in Iowa voted in both states?

How many of those who voted in the caucus are actually registered to vote or will in the general elections?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

27. Bush also got a pass over Gore and Kerry.....

n/t

[DiamondJay]

33. so were Kerry and Gore

[AX10]

2. It is sickening.

It makes him that more undesirable to me.
I may abstain the GE if he is the nominee.

[K Gardner]

6. More power to you, AX. There will be plenty of young, old, indy and other enthusiastic dems to take

your place :hi:

[LowerManhattanite]

24. Saw that coming a mile away...

Sheee-it, Stevie Wonder, Ronnie Milsap and José Feliciano saw it too.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

28. ME TOO!

"Obama wins Nebraska, Washington, and Louisiana"

Way to show your bias, MSM. I bet Hillary totally won at least two of those states, but the Politico is just spinning it for Obama!

INTERNET BOYCOTT OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, STARTING TODAY.

[goldcanyonaz]

30. I'm considering also boycotting the election if he is the nominee.

[candice]

88. Think of the Supreme Court. Yes, the guy is getting a free ride....

...and at least he isn't a woman....but if he is the Dem candidate, we need him to win to keep the Supreme Court from getting stacked by conservatives.

I suggest unplugging your TV. That's how I got through Reagan and Bu$h. I have never had that old Republican feeling toward any Dem who got through the nomination process, but if Bama's it, remember that the worst Dem is better for the country than the best Republican.

Someday this country will evolve enough to be able to have a woman president, but it is not a very evolved place, and frankly, why should Hillary waste her time?

[stillrockin]

3. He's better for our country.

[ShortnFiery]

4. They don't. IMO, you're looking at the media through "Clintonian-shaded specs"

:shrug: ;)

[kerry-is-my-prez]

37. MSNBC did a study and showed that Obama was getting mosly positive, Clinton mostly negative.

n/t

[blogslut]

7. When he is the nominee

They will attack him.

[eileen_d]

8. Because he's the "new kid in town"

He'll lose the privilege eventually. It'll be rough.

[K Gardner]

9. Then there's always you, talking about how he only wins black states.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4511259&mesg_id=4511302

[DiamondJay]

31. sorry its the truth that his primary wins are limited in scope

and he only wins black states and small state caucuses which we will NEVER win anyway like Utah, SC, Kansas, SD, and he wins those because the few dems that are in those states is because they are probably the young voters sucked in by the trend. I'm a young voter who sees past that.

[fortyfeetunder]

46. Did you ever answer the question...

What are "black states"?

Or shall I ask it this way?
Considering Blacks are about 13% of the US population, where are they highly populated?

[DiamondJay]

51. i mean states where they are over half of the primary-election electorate

which is an automatic legup in a primary election, altho such a demographic is not very common among most US states, and states we may win this november.

[Usrename]

63. I'm just wondering what good it does us?

If Clinton only wins states that Bush lost, what good is that?

[scheming daemons]

10. The more positive candidate gets more positive coverage....

....and the more conniving and negative a candidate (Hillary), the more negative coverage.


Maybe...instead of playing dirty politics, and seeking to win by divide-and-conquer.... if she would try to win with a POSITIVE message..... she'd get positive coverage.


Just a thought...

[jackson_dem]

16. So why did the most positive campaigner, Hillary, get bad coverage from the beginning?

When she was leading she was the most positive. Yet studies have shown obama got by far the best coverage of her, McCain, and Giuliani. Edwards did not exist in media coverage in the first 5 months.

[Usrename]

67. The media has been shoving both of them down our throats.

Obama and Clinton. From the beginning. They were never trying to force Edwards on us. Just callin' em like I see 'em.

[Big Blue Marble]

12. He is the future. n/t

[dflprincess]

13. Because the corporations who own the media like him better?

I'm surprised the media hasn't been more even handed as both Clinton and Obama are corportists.

[journalist3072]

14. The Republican-loving MSM wants the weaker Democratic candidate in November

Which means they want Jim Jones....I mean Obama.

I totally agree with you. Obama has NOT been held accountable for his record.

And I find that offensive.

It was January 2005 when George Bush was asked by a staff member of the Washington Post, why no one in his Administration had been fired or otherwise held accountable for Iraq.

And he said "We had an accountability moment. It's called the 2004 election."

I don't want another President who thinks he's not accountable.

And Obama does not believe he's accountable. He basically told the media 'move on...nothing to see here' regard the Rezko story.

[OHdem10]

22. You nailed it.

[LowerManhattanite]

36. More comparisons to a lunatic who led thousands of people...

...(two of whom were friends of family members) to their deaths? A murderer who also killed a sitting member of the House of Representatives? (Rep. Leo Ryan)

God damn. When Skinner puts the brakes on this place in a few days I sincerely hope it rectifies stuff like this.

Be it stuff like “Shrillary” or “Jim Jones”, it's just plain wrong.

[journalist3072]

61. I don't think the Jim Jones analogy is wrong at all...I think it's quite appropriate

The issue is blind loyalty. People blindly followed Jim Jones.

People are blindly following Barack Obama.

[nonconformist]

15. So when they fucking destroy him after he's the nominee, it will be more effective.

Bank on it.

[demo dutch]

17. There you go, all figured out

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. Taht's what worries me - he is not vetted at all. The media will turn on him in the General.

n/t

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

19. Conspiracy

The editorial board of the WaPo and the NYT sit down on the weekends, smoke a joint, and text message FOX News to figure out how to best deride Clinton this week.

Then they play XBOX.

[FogerRox]

20. I have no idea what this OP is about, really no clue

[thereismore]

21. I'll give you one thing: Obama's people did twist Bill's "fairy tale" remark. Other than that,

bullshit.

[Exultant Democracy]

25. Looks like CNN skiped her speach tonight and played Obama's. MSNBC played both.

[Change has come]

26. I think it's to piss you off.

Seems to be working. :hi:

[goldcanyonaz]

29. Because he's black.

[cottonseed]

32. Is that flamebait? a joke? or are you having a really bad night?

or I guess there could be other reasons for the comment.

[cottonseed]

34. nt

nt

[DiamondJay]

39. self delete

[cottonseed]

42. I must have missed the part about Hillary being a woman.

Wouldn't supporting a women be a PC thing to do? Or is there a PC scale of some sort I'm not familiar with?

[DiamondJay]

49. no because they are half of everyone u see

[goldcanyonaz]

40. Not a joke, a reality that I as a black woman see.

[cottonseed]

48. Well, I think there's other reasons than being black, but that's my opinion.

I think he does give people some hope of change, not black hope, hope; and I think people crave that. And I believe that when people talk about change, then have a more intelligent definition of it than people give them credit for. I believe they're looking to move on from Oligarchies, insane foreign policy, and political calculations. They want to be spoken too like adults.

[ecstatic]

62. You get away with a lot because you

say you're black. I'm watching you!!

[goldcanyonaz]

74. I've watched you too. You have no objectivity where Obama is concerned. I do.

[Seabiscuit]

35. Because they're owned by Republicans, and Obama's their boy.

[goldcanyonaz]

45. Uh oh you said boy. You gonna be labeled a racist now.

[Seabiscuit]

54. Oops.

:hide:

::gack::

[kerry-is-my-prez]

65. I'd change that to their "man" instead of "boy"

n/t

[Seabiscuit]

92. "You can't edit this message because the editing period has expired." n/t

[cottonseed]

38. The entire media love Obama because he leader now.

nt

[Cha]

41. That's so much bullshit ..they don't

"..give Obama as pass on everything". You just perceive it as such 'cause you'd like them to constantly ream it to him.

And it wasn't "they" who said the P word..it was David Schuster, so get over yourself.

Edit~changed "was" to "wasn't" :silly:

[DiamondJay]

44. i would not like to see him reamed

unless it was equally with hillary, tho i'd prefer they hurt neither candidate, because I wanna vote for whoever is the Dem nominee. but notice how no one called Michelle Obama a "nappy headed ho" yet. and if they did, i'm sure he'd be gone for good.

[Cha]

50. See, you're totally using hyperbole..

gettin' your "nappy headed ho" in there and thinkin' you're all clever. I see your agenda and you are now on ignore.

[TwilightGardener]

43. I've heard all about Rezko, and Snub-Gate, and All Style/No Substance--

somewhere, somehow...

[Kurovski]

47. Because he's going to turn the poor and middle class into Soylent Green,

and that's exactly what the corporate owners of the media want.

Someone said this thread was serving glazed donuts...so where are they? :shrug:

[TwilightGardener]

53. ...

:donut: Me, I'm here for the :beer:

[Kurovski]

77. Yeast for everyone!

And keep it coming!

[hill08]

55. If Obama gets nomination and later gets crushed by McCain

it will be an exciting spectacle and media will make a lot of money. And there will not be another black nominee for 300 years

[eileen_d]

56. Aren't you a ray of sunshine?

[Kurovski]

66. He'll be the first to be turned to Soylent Green.

Just you wait.

[robbedvoter]

57. I strived to answer this too - and get Obama's supporters view

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4346496&mesg_id=4346496
"Maybe they've seen the light" famous last words of Deanies in 2004
anf the questions
Why are the people who brought us Bush pushing Obama? Obama supporters - please answer me
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4263047
and I sum up their answers here:


MSM is after a good story (unseating of inevitable choice)
MSM is actually impressed with Obama
MSM wants to kiss ass of the next president
MSM - they're human! maybe they want to stop being evil already
Both parties do it
They hate Clinton
Ted Kennedy!
Who cares what they're doing?
It's not true - what planet are you getting your news from?

[ecstatic]

59. We need an MSM proof candidate and Obama appears to be it nt

[krabigirl]

64. Because he brings in the youth vote, and the advertisers like that.

[Kurovski]

70. That's true. Sports drinks, shoes, and all those gramophone recordings.

Too bad Obama will be sending the tender and young to the Soylent Green factories as well. :-(

[Laurab]

94. Will you stop spreading that Soylent Green rumor?

How many times does it have to be disproven for you? It's all about the donuts and less gun violence dammit, and you KNOW it! :donut:

[Kurovski]

96. You can't disprove what has not yet occured!!

And now, don't think about this statement any further!!

[Laurab]

97. I can, too!

If there's one thing I've learned about primary season on DU, you can make up ANYTHING and state it as fact. I won't think about it any further, though - in fact, I didn't think about it at all to begin with! :loveya: :donut:

[AtomicKitten]

68. They don't ... It just seems like that sometimes when one fears losing.

[DiamondJay]

80. face it, the drive-bys love him, even peeps on his campaign say it

[AtomicKitten]

81. Hey, what's not to love? ;)

[dannofoot]

100. The "drive-bys?"

Did you REALLY just use the term..."Drive-bys?"

Funny, there is only one place that I've EVER seen or heard that term used...Rush Limbaugh coined it, and certain right-wing sites now use it consistently.

[IsItJustMe]

69. Because he can? LOL

[adapa]

71. Don't worry the MSM will turn on him soon enough, question is when.

[Kurovski]

72. Where are those damn donuts?!!!

[Laurab]

95. They are very effective in stopping gun violence, I've heard.

:donut: :donut: :donut: :donut:

It looks like you can't get them without the coffee. If I were more computer literate, I'd find a dozen or two somewhere!

[OzarkDem]

75. Because they want him to win so they can take him out in the GE

Why else would GOP controlled media outlets be promoting him? Does anyone really think they want him to win? Please.

[Dogmudgeon]

78. Hillary had a huge initial lead

<Mode Wonk=ON Partisan=OFF>

The press makes more money and gets more power when they can drive a contest to a 50/50 split. It is much more dramatic, involves the entire electorate, and makes ad rates soar.

Usually, this happens in the general election. This time is a true rarity because we have two candidates who are so close on the issues that the "non-rational" issues are becoming significant -- race, gender, and the effectiveness of 20 years of anti-Clinton mudslinging from both extremes of the political spectrum. Even without the intrusion of the media's greed, it would have been a close race. As Barack Obama became better-known, the contest would have required no handicapping.

And I have to make a point about race, since I notice it has been an important issue for you, as well as other DUers: this is an historical moment for Black folks all over the world. Even if Obama fails in his bid for the presidency (this time!), it says to the world that anti-Black racism is finally in its "terminal" decline. It may still exist among the fearful and in its redoubts for a moment (in history) more, but the stake has been driven into the bloodsucker's heart, and we are now intently waiting for it to die.

Much work remains, but the outcome is no longer in doubt.

Both candidates are so strong that the old divisions are difficult to chart. More Black folks are voting for Clinton than usually vote for White candidates running against Blacks. Women are crossing the gender line to vote for Obama. This is one of the healthiest electoral signs I have ever been witness to. There are many confounding factors in this race -- and I say, fantastic!

So this Democratic primary is a contest for the ages. We may never cast another vote as powerful as this; yet both choices lead us upward. Even if I live to be 100, I doubt I will ever see anything quite like it again. So savor this moment in history.

Centuries or millennia hence, when the book about America is at last closed, this spring will be known as the Season of the Battle of the Titans, the days when the thunder of history roused us from our long national slumber. Two of America's very best, close friends outside the arena of battle and fierce competitors inside, are struggling for the privilege to now lead the trek for the American ur-dream of Liberty, Justice, and Human Solidarity.

Our children will look on this as the year America cast off another chain and and resumed its Promethean quest.

--p!

[Zorra]

79. First rule of politics: Follow the money. n/t

[Kurovski]

90. Second rule: make the donuts. (nt)

[IndieLeft]

83. Yes, Obama is responsible for the media now too.

Funny, I hear a Hillar love fest tonight on MSNBC.

So, what you are saying is that, since Obama is squeaky clean, they should make up some stuff and report that? Sorry, not every network is Fox News.

If Hillary wants to get some love from the media, then maybe she should run a CLEAN campaign.

[DiamondJay]

86. i am saying either report stuff on him, or nothing on either

and I'd prefer the latter option, because I feel they both don't deserve to be slandered. But the drive-by media does slander and trash Clinton at every turn, and the fact is Obama is NOT "squeaky clean", and no politician who has made it this far is. So if they wanna talk shit about Clinton, do it about Obama, or if they wanna say nothing bad about Obama, do the same for Clinton. Her campaign IS clean. It was YOU guys who brought race into it, twisting Bill's words about Obama's war position, and Obama surrogate, not surprisingly Jesse Jackass Jr. who said hillary does cry for black issues, and the media spins it to hurt the Clintons.

[candice]

85. She's a woman and it is acceptable to be sexist...

...plus Obama's the next new thing and he is younger and his speechifying inspires some people (I zone out to him like I do to Bush). Obama will be criticized just like anyone else if he makes a misstep. The Republicans will bring up whatever they can find on Obama during the general election and won't miss a chance to emphasize how he differs from the typical male white voter.

All of the first term Democratic presidents I've experience have been assaulted--Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Gore and Kerry were ridiculed. Bu$h got a free ride during his campaigns and during his presidency, except when it was so botched no one could pretend anymore with a straight face.

Although I believe Hillary would make the better President, I don't think this country deserves someone who is interested in policy and hard work.

It's more about celebrity and preening, not political efficacy. Women take a back seat.

Thomas Jefferson said that a country gets the government it deserves.

But even the worst Dem is better than the best Republican in my scheme of things. We must think of the Supreme Court. That's where the men who would never be pregnant themselves want to control young womens' lives and repeal Row v. Wade. Also, the Supreme Court will be making decisions about the environment, and we can't be in a position to let the conservatives take the earth down (the U.S. is the No. 1 emitter of greenhouse gases).

I suggest unplugging your TV, save the money on cable and read good books. (As you no doubt know, TV exists to hold you to the next advertisement, and if we ever get universal health care, the drug company ads will disappear. Why should I as a lay person be telling my doctor to prescribe a drug that I saw advertised on TV? Absurd.)

Campaign ads need to be free and substantial. The media has to be less consolidated for a real democracy to flourish.

Corporate-consolidated media doesn't want a Democratic candidate. That's why Gore and Kerry were ridiculed, make to seem "girly" compared to the swaggering Bu$h. Both would go after media consolidation.

I've always seen mostly women working the Democratic campaigns for the men who are running. For a woman to have a chance as President, she does need to come from the male-dominated power structure, at least to be the first one to break through the glass ceiling. Some day it might be possible for a woman, but she'd have to be thrice as good as any male, be a masterful politician while having bimbo good looks, and not be threatening to men. But how would she get the funding?

After an inspirational Hillary rally, filled with real content that would make my life better, parents were taking photos of their young daughters holding Hillary posters. Someday. Someday.

If not Hillary, then I am looking forward to the army of young men who are going to be devoting their weekends to working on the Obama campaign. Doing all the grunt work traditionally done by women. I'll vote, but won't do anything else.

[question everything]

87. The Teflon Candidate

No one questions anything he says or does. No one questions his track record - except on DU.

One reason is that questioning him could be used as being racist. But when the men on MSNBC and Newsweek attack Hillary, that's OK.

No one even points to the fact that he wins caucuses, where no one is checking the eligibility to vote and residence. Or that he wins primaries where most of the voters are black.

You find women not voting for Clinton because "she did not divorce Bill" and you find young women voting for Obama because they get orgasmic.

The Obama supporters should be ready for a rude awakening when Karl Rove is going to shoot with both barrels.

[Kurovski]

91. My words for Obama: "Go make me a donut!"

[Joe Chi Minh]

93. Actually, they've pretty much given him a pass on nothing, since he has

offered nothing (I mean apart from some feel-good abstractions).

The MSM's news anchors and commentators must be becoming all mellow and mushy. I can just see Larry King, Candy Crowley et all sitting by their fireside, devouring Barbara Cartland's finest bodice-rippers and other books from Mills & Boon's extensive range of period romances. Who could ever have doubted that the most venal and hard-hearted worldlings could be changed into puppy dogs and kittens by a few well-chosen words of hope!

[Occam Bandage]

98. Thank you for your concern.

[cottonseed]

99. How about - the Teflon Bam

That man's good.. real good.

[zulchzulu]

101. Shhh....he's black, yunno....

Are you kidding?

The MSM has been punked by Obama's campaign. They thought Hillary was the nominee. There have been several attempts to make the Rezko case stick, but since the Chicago press vetted the story for a couple years with nothing on Obama and Patrick Fitzgerald saying Obama has done nothing wrong, it would seem odd to bring up the case.

There is plenty of dirt on the Clintons now. You should feel lucky they haven't bore down on them. Three letters: Hsu.