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Sat Feb-09-08 10:28 PM
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Dukakis had 17 point lead over Bush I when he was nominated |
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Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:29 PM by hill08
but by November he was 8 points behind. This is according to P Buchanan on MSNBC. SO much for early polls and electability argument.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:29 PM
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1. He also rode around in a tank like a fool...n/t. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:32 PM
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10. Lol! Yep that and the whole "weekend release" debacle. n/t |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:38 PM
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20. He was Swiftboated by the Media and didn't Fight Back |
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Sound Familiar? That's what Obama people expected HRC to do when MSNBC called her child a prostitute. She fought back, and she won, and she will win.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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2. Grasping. Straws. Much. Reach. Straws. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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3. therefore, we should vote for the dem who is behind in the polls |
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because they will always end up ahead...?
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:32 PM
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for the Democrat whose negatives will not go up by November because she has been beaten to death for 16 years and reached the maximum. From now on Hill can only gain in favorables.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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4. Herr Buchanan is either unaware or is cruelly ignoring Michael Dukakis' |
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dedicated care of his wife Kitty, who was suffering from significant and acute emotional illness during that time.
Under other circumstances we might have seen a different, closer outcome.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:51 PM
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26. Repeating Herr Buchanan's version of history here at DU in the OP....... |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:02 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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5. Welcome to the payroll. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:32 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:30 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:32 PM
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8. Which shows you how important it is to have our nominee run an outstanding campaign |
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Who is the candidate will fill the role of strongest candidate and run the best campaign?
It doesn't appear that Obama is making Dukakis mistakes.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:35 PM
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16. it is not about mistakes |
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It is about all dirt black republicans will pour on Obama in the coming months if he gets the nomination. By November Obama's extremist church pastor, his moral compass will be more famous than Pope Benedict
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:39 PM
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22. They will go after either candidate and if they can't find anything, they will lie --brazenly |
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It will be won on how the nominee responds.
But at some point, Hillary, if she is going to be the nominee, better start getting the lion's share of delegates out of these primaries and caucuses. When on earth is she going to do that?
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:33 PM
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11. That's right. Nobody can say Obama can't win in November. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:33 PM
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12. Many astute analysts remark on the similarity between the charisma of Obama Vs. Dukakis. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:37 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:49 PM
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25. Oh shit, that is real funny, good on ya. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:34 PM
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13. Buchanan still beating the Hillary drum |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:17 PM
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33. Did you see Buchannan reading Hillary talking points? He actually |
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had the paper with the talking points in his hand. :rofl:
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:35 PM
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14. Wasn't Hillary up by like... 30 a few months ago? Huh, you're right. |
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I couldn't agree with you more.
GoBama!
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:56 PM
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29. That's the comparison I thought of n/t |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:35 PM
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15. That was almost entirely because of Willie Horton |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:36 PM
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17. True. All those polls showing Hillary would win for the past year |
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were all wrong. She kept going down.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:37 PM
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19. And what would be your response if current polls showed Hillary beating McCain? |
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Hypocrit.
Dukakis was dull..... like Hillary. That's why he lost. Milquetoast candidate..... like Hillary.
Dukakis couldn't inspire voters..... just like Hillary can't.
Obama is no Dukakis.... If you want to relive the 1988 campaign, nominate Hillary... she'll win the same states that Dukakis did... and that's all.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:38 PM
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:46 PM
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23. Guess your are too young to have been around back then |
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Either that or you think Buchanans version of history bears repeating.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:47 PM
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24. Actually Mike lost by IIRC much more by 17% I recall |
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:55 PM
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27. The Obamatrons think they're hard done by when we call him a "cult leader" to make a point -- |
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-- a point about the emptiness of his rhetoric and the fanaticism of his young minions.
Wait until the general election, when the fundie Repubs see the same cultishness and call him "the Antichrist" -- and believe it!
The O-man is sitting pretty right now, but he has nowhere to go but down.
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Sat Feb-09-08 10:56 PM
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28. I hate to break this to you, but bush was the vp of an immensely |
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popular two term prez. and this isn't 1988. In fact, the circumstances couldn't be more different.
Now have fun with your sour fucking grapes./
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:02 PM
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30. Looks like a "hit and run" OP takin a cheap shot |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:18 PM
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34. Dukakis is no Barack Obama!!! |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:21 PM
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35. Dukakis got swift boated |
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just like Kerry. He had a huge post-convention bounce, which he lost part of after the GOP had their convention two weeks later. He blew the rest over the summer, when he let Bush I attack him relentlessly without answer.
I worked on the Dukakis campaign that year, and remember it well. It severely bugged the hell out of me in 2004 when I saw the Kerry campaign making nearly identical mistakes, sixteen years later.
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