What David Shuster said was WRONG ... BUT ...

[musicblind]

I am a Hillary supporter, and a fan of the Chris Matthews show. (which Shuster is OFTEN on). What David Shuster said was wrong BUT HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE FIRED FOR THIS! I hate seeing people that we KNOW are not racist, not homophobic, or not hateful getting fired when they accidentally slip up and say something that doesn't really sound right. We should be firing the people who know ARE racist, homophobic, or hateful.

Was the "pimp" comment offensive? Yes, and he should apologize... and guess what ... he did! There is no sense in taking away a person's livelihood and dreams because he accidentally made a bad analogy related to a politicians daughter. I cringe to think of the fuck ups I have made in my life time. The times I have said something that seemed like a sexual reference when it wasn't, or made an insensitive comment when I didn't really mean to.

Does ANYONE HERE BELIEVE that David Shuster thinks that Chelsea is a whore who walks the street corners at night and Hillary serves as her pimp? No! He was making an analogy and did a VERY poor job of deciding which analogy to use.

I don't think that Hillary wants him fired either. She never said that. When I read the letter she wrote, it seems to me, that she wants MSNBC to change their slanted coverage of this election before the lose credibility much like FOX has.

David Shuster is a GOOD GUY. He comes off as a sincere and passionate journalist. I am sure that if he could take back those words he would. Give him a break, everyone deserves a second shot.

It is never okay to call a woman a whore, but it isn't okay to fire commentators because they slip up and say something we KNOW they do not really mean.

Please, fellow Hillary supporters... SAVE DAVID SHUSTER'S JOB ... do NOT ask that he be fired. He HAS apologized!

[eleny]

1. Did he actually get fired, too?

Sorry but I really didn't know that if it's happened.

[musicblind]

3. No

That's just the new word of the day... people calling for him to get fired and claiming that a letter Hillary wrote called for that as well. I really do NOT think that was what the letter was talking about. It said a hollow apology was not enough for her to be chummy with MSNBC again. The meaning I took from it was because of the networks bias as a whole and she would like the whole network to rethink how slanted it has been. NOT to fire David Shuster who is a good person who said some bad stuff.

[maddiejoan]

2. Get this straight

Yes. It was an analogy.

THE ANALOGY WAS OFFENSIVE.

Fire his ass, I don't care if he's "one of the good guys".

This bullshit has to stop, and we can't just play it off if 'one of our own' fucks up.

[musicblind]

4. so anyone who slips up at some point in their lives

and says something offensive when they didn't mean to should be fired from their job?

[maddiejoan]

6. He meant it

it was no slip up.

[madfloridian]

7. You want Shuster fired?

After all the times when I was teaching when I had to defend Bill Clinton's blowjob..while the others around me just ripped into him. I live in an area of Southern Baptists. I was the only teacher in my school standing up for him at all.

An uncle and I had words when we would try to discuss it.

You want Shuster fired?

[maddiejoan]

9. Yes.

I want him fired.

Thankfully for Mr. Schuster --Hillary does not.

[LittleBlue]

5. Taken in context, this was no offensive at all.

This was his disastrous attempt to sound "hip", like he used to be in college. He used a word from the 20 and under vernacular: pimp. Meaning to display ostentatiously or show off.

[totodeinhere]

8. You are exactly right.

Shuster meant no harm. He has probably seen the MTV program called "Pimp My Ride." Shuster is not a sexist. He did not mean that to be a sexist remark. He meant it to be a hip remark. Under no circumstances should he be fired.

[Yossariant]

10. He should be fired. We own the airwaves. He didn't "slip up" and I'm

amazed at the people who defend him.

He stuck by his statement repeatedly in emails and even justified what he said because "Chelsea doesn't do media interviews."

Fire his ass.

[madrchsod]

11. if i said that about any of my co workers

in the manor he did i`d be fired. there is two sets of standards in america--one for women and one for men. for some reason women always lose

finally there is something maddiejoan and i agree on

[shugah]

12. what David Shuster said was wrong

and makes me sorta sick to my stomach.

i like david shuster as a reporter. he has impressed me by being a journalist, not a talking head. he seems as impartial a television journalist as there is, a rare find in the corporate media these days. but when i heard what he said, i just cringed. what the f**k was he thinking??? well, obviously, he wasn't thinking. that he blathered out something so ugly is a symptom of what is wrong with the media. if you watch any amount of news on teevee you hear stuff like this all the time. it doesn't make it right, and it certainly doesn't make it acceptable.

and i certainly don't expect to hear it from one of the few reporters i admire. in fact, that makes it worse.

look, i want to cut shuster some slack. and i've tried to find a way to do it. but, i just can't give him a pass.

if msnbc decides that a suspension and an apology are sufficient discipline, so be it. i may or may not listen to him again. tho rare these days, there are those that learn lessons from their mistakes and grow into wiser persons. but i am not writing to msnbc to ask that they not fire him. he doesn't warrant that much support after saying such an ugly, sexist, and offensive thing.

[Kceres]

13. We all make mistakes not only in the way we talk, but the way we think.

Even though I abhor racism and consider myself a feminist, I still can't believe some of the things I think/do/say once in a while. There are times I've had to ask myself, "Where the hell did THAT come from?" We need to apologize if we've offended and learn from our mistakes. It's a life-long, ongoing process.

We also need to look at patterns. This was the first time I've ever seen Shuster slip up. Repeat offenders get what they deserve. (Matthews is going to have to learn the hard way, I'm afraid.) My point is: none of us are born enlightened. We have to help and teach each other.

[musicblind]

14. thank you!

That was brilliant the way you put it! We have to look for PATTERNS! We have to look for what was really meant! This is the first time David Shuster has screwed up, and few people can honestly say they think he MEANS that Chelsea is a "whore". Of course not! The people who claim that are lying and they know they are. He misspoke, plain and simple. The problem is the environment at MSNBC that is egging on the distrust of the Clintons. MSNBC has been very unfair to them in this election, and the network as a WHOLE needs to re-evaluate itself..