Politics in America is in flux

[WilliamPitt]

Something very interesting is going on. The walls are shaking on both sides of the aisle.

Given how fucked up things have been, I see any kind of shake-up or confusion as an Absolute Good.

Anyone who's been shouting for change? Say :hi: ti what it looks like. It isn't easy, it's perfect bedlam on occasion, it's bitter to the nth degree because real power is at stake, and it has to fucking happen. There was no predicting how it unfolded, and this is tame weenie-party shit compared to what serious change is going to look like, but it is an Absolute Good.

Huckabee's base supporters are shredding the GOP coalition before our eyes, and as for the shake-up and bedlam on the Democratic side, well...1. 99% of the people brawling over Clinton v. Obama are going to vote Democratic in November; 2. That cannot be said of the partisans in the GOP race, which is huge; and, 3. Anyone who thinks the Democratic Party doesn't need a shake-up has been living for the last eight years with a bag over their head.

This is Good Shit.

A bitty little opening for the beginnings of change.

So.

:toast:

[DJ13]

1. Its all fluxed up.

:)

[book_worm]

2. Agreed. I think most dems will vote for either Obama or Clinton but I'm really getting to think

that a lot of conservatives will sit out the presidential race instead of voting for McCain.

[Cant trust em]

11. When the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter and Beck

are coming out for Hillary Clinton, things are not good in the GOP.

[HughMoran]

3. I like it

It's also making me a bit nervous :D

[EFerrari]

4. If it stays this f#cked up I may have to change my registration back.

:toast:

[HughMoran]

6. Fucked up is good

That's why I liked the chaos of the 60's :D

[kentuck]

5. yep..

:hi:

[frogcycle]

7. agreed - good post

and all the clamor to get somebody to quit is bs - they should stfu and let then chips fall where they may

with one caveat - the dems MUST NOT keep sliming each other. they can and should keep selling themselves and their messages, keep racing to the finish, then shake hands and flip a coin if necessary

[MannyGoldstein]

8. The Flight To Honesty

Most voters in both parties seem have tired of being lied to, and are moving toward the candidates who are perceived as being more honest. As was the case after Nixon, the country's looking for hot shower with plenty of soap and disinfectant.

[ben_meyers]

9. Starting to look and sound like '68

Without the violence, so far. Unfortunately that gave us Nixon, Reagan, Bush and Bush. The convention in Denver could be a tipping point.

[rocktivity]

10. DING DING DING! WilliamPitt, you're our grand prize winner!

...99% of the people brawling over Clinton v. Obama are going to vote Democratic in November 2. That cannot be said of the partisans in the GOP race...

As of 10:19 EST:

Clinton Louisiana votes: 50,897

All GOP Louisiana votes: 51,788


As of 10:35PM EST:

Clinton Washington votes 9,992

All GOP Washington votes: 6,796


:headbang:
rocknation

[Cant trust em]

14. SHHHH! Don't talk about that.

That needs to be our little secret. As soon as the MSM picks up this talking point they'll do whatever they can to even the scales. A horse race election means higher ratings for them.

[BattyDem]

12. Voters in both parties are fed up with the establishment ...

and both parties better start paying attention, or else the 2012 election could end up being be a battle between the Greens and the Libertarians. :P

[Birthmark]

13. Change is not always good.

Ask the Germans.

[WilliamPitt]

15. Godwin's Law

You lose. :P

[Birthmark]

17. It is impossible to lose an observation...

...except by virtue of a superior observation.

And I never voted for Godwin. Too dogmatic.

[BattyDem]

21. ROFL!

:rofl: :toast:

[TheDoorbellRang]

26. Godwin's Law. I finally went and looked it up

:rofl:

I'm glad I did. Thanks!

[WCGreen]

16. I enjoy the fluidity of the race...

And the fact that the republicans are in a meltdown...

It really is a political junckies best world...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

18. A bitty little opening for the beginnings of change.

You said it.........and it's very exciting!

Interesting times, indeed!

:toast:

K&R

[Tatiana]

19. K&R. This race is good not only for the party, but for America.

Many core Democratic ideas and values are being broadcast all across the country and folks are being reminded of how far in the wrong direction we've gone.

We've brought a ton of people who were previously disengaged into political participation.

Incumbents (in both parties) realize that they are going to be held accountable for the way they have represented their constituency. If some manage to get re-elected, you can bet they'll think twice (and a third time for good measure) about marching in lock-step with a megalomaniac.

[John Q. Citizen]

20. I've never seen anything like it. Ever. Ron Paul finished second in our closed Republican

caucus Super T. A lot of Repo voters are pissed off because the Republicans choose who got to attend the caucuses
and all other voters were shut out. McCain came in third, a couple points behind second place Paul and Romney leading by 12 points. Alan Keyes got a vote.

Talk about a protest vote, and from the select voters of the Montana Republican Party, though as the Alan Keyes vote shows, we probably got some Paul supporters who don't like his war stance but like the rest of his agenda. We have a small but intense wing of the Repo party here who provide hours of internet entertainment.

Maybe Montana Dems will get to elect the next President come June. Freakin wild.

Change is hard but people seem ready for it.

[Bread and Circus]

22. my take is that it means things are fairly shitty for a lot of people...

if people are happy and comfortable (well fed and entertained (aka bread and circus)) they don't mind keeping the status quo, even if it means children on the other side of the world are stepping on landmines or starving. However, when people start feeling nervous, insecure, and wary of their own future, change is bound to happen.

Iraq War, going on it's 6th year.
Unaffordable health care.
Diminishing buying power.
Increased joblessness.
Working harder just to tread water and go further in debt.
Steeper educational ladder with a big pile of debt at the end.
Leaving our nation worse, instead of better, for the next generation.

It adds up.

The neocon and neodemocrat (aka DLC) policies of the past 20+ years just aren't good enough.

[mmonk]

23. Thanks for that.

Trying to stay positive (which is hard to do over the last seven years) and stay focused on hope and change.

[workinclasszero]

24. Screw the insiders

People are just sick and tired of getting F'ed over by Washington insiders, IMHO. Rethugs and dems.

70% of the American public is against the Iraq war yet McCain wants to stay in for 100 years!

Meanwhile the Congress is King George's bitch! We have fuckin had enough of this BULLSHIT!

We need a fresh face like Obama to sweep all the assholes out in the fall in a landslide.

This is generational change, once in a lifetime. The rethugs will go back to their rightful place, permanent minority party.

Obama is gonna pull the teeth of the rethuglican lion in the fall!

Oh how the mighty have fallen! Oh the humanity!:applause:

[K Gardner]

25. Another Bingo Winner ! K&R

[caligirl]

27. Here's one change I love: Rachel Maddow is on cable news making Buchannon look like a relic.

even two years ago we had no one to counter and dent this moron conservative and bigot. Rachel has a doctorate in poli sci and is a Rhodes scholar who is quick with words and showing Pat for the idiot he is.