So, any Clinton supporters thinking about switching to Obama?

[Guaranteed]

Err, not yet, probably...


I'll get back to you in a week, though, see where ya are. ;)

[IndieLeft]

1. Maybe not on here, but across the nation... they're all coming to their senses!

GoBama!

[Tellurian]

97. I like that Hillary is the under-dog in this campaign...

it's the right incentive to make us work harder, but not the right incentive for changing candidates.

The Edward's supporters are great. And they see a future with their candidate in a high profile position with the Clinton Team. It all works for us. Why would we want to change to something as nebulous as bubbles in the air?

[rodeodance]

126. Meet her new campaign manager here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4528912&mesg_id=4528912

[kid a]

2. microwave on 3

:popcorn:

[krispos42]

20. Scoot over, and don't bogart the popcorn...

[1awake]

3. not a good question for this place, at this time me thinks.. n/t

[Guaranteed]

5. Just doin' some proddin' through the fence...

Poke...poke...

Tee hee...

[theHandpuppet]

76. Yeah, that will really gain you allies

:eyes:

[adapa]

117. +1

these kinda comments make me dislike the preacher man even more

[chimpymustgo]

87. You guys are Obama's worst enemy. As an undecided, I know I don't want to be a member of THIS club.

Do you realize how childish and off-putting this is? You're making Hillary look grown-up and sane.

[bettyellen]

91. they're forcing me away from obama toward hillary.

[susankh4]

88. Nope. Here in Ohio we will choose Hillary!

We are practical people, just not easily swayed by puffed up slogans and messianic movements.

We are much more impressed by track records and thoughtful strategies.

I'm really sorry to hear about the McClurkin thing with your candidate too. As the mom of a gay son.... I'll have to really think about whether I can actually work for your candidate in the fall. What a shame.

[journalist3072]

4. Is it cold in hell yet?

[DJ13]

6. I bet some Hillary committed super delegates are rethinking their support

If enough migrate to Obama due to his increasing momentum this could end quickly.

[emilyg]

7. No.

[BenDavid]

8. when Obama surrogates call Bill Clinton a racist, we resent it.

When Obama says that Hillary is in the pocket of the lobbyists, we resent it. When we hear Obama surrogates talking about the Clintons the way the Republicans talk about the Clintons, we really resent it.

Many of us are very deeply offended and I'm trying to like Obama and it's just not happening. I would warn Obama supporters that being anti-Clinton might result in a Republican president.

If other states exit polls reveal tonight what La. did then obama IF he gets the nomination will be in a world of hurt....The exit poll showed that 67% of HRC supporters would not consider voting for another candidate....Now that is bad news....Oh I can understand in the heat of the moment reactions but even if it were 50% is would be bad if this is throughout the u.s. especially like states n.y. n.j. calif. michigan, florida....missouri.....take 50% from the 856,000 in florida you have obama receiving 428,000 less votes.....

Now take those blue states that dems usually win and in new york just the primary vote take 50% of 1,000,000 and damn that's 500,000

As obama folks say it would be 41% that would not support another candidate......bad for both candidates....

[VolcanoJen]

14. Again, the exit poll did NOT state that HRC supporters wouldn't vote for Obama.

The question was "Would you be SATISFIED if the other candidate won the election."

[LowerManhattanite]

26. God...how many times are you going to SPAM this? n/t

[Usrename]

45. Clinton, by herself, outperformed both McCain and Huckabee in La.

She had more votes than the two of them put together. And Obama had more than her.

What worries you about this situation? You need to take a deep breath and chill a little.

If this is the kind of news that worries you, how did you ever survive the last 7 years?

[Perry Logan]

77. Here's the debunk. All Obama posts are bullshit.

[Life Long Dem]

51. So you can't go with Obama.

:yoiks:

[JTFrog]

81. I bet you didn't like it. How dare

a "jiveass" pull the sheets off the heads of those who want to run this country. That was your word you used to describe him right?

I'm sure you would like to remain under yours as well.

[LowerManhattanite]

104. I remember his “jive-ass” slam at Obama...

It would appear that the man has...oh, what's the word again?...“Issues”.

[Kahuna]

89. There's a difference in saying Bill is a racist and saying Bill is using

racist tactics. I believe that Bill has correctly accused of using racist tactics. He has not been accused of being racist.

[nonconformist]

9. No.

I will chose apathy first.

[TexasObserver]

10. you know, now that we know they're beaten, we should probably slack off

It always gets vicious when it's down to two, and it's like a fight at the family reunion.

[Tennessee Gal]

11. No. And won't.

[jlake]

12. No. I will not support Obama & will leave the party if he gets the nomination.

[Guaranteed]

13. Any particular reason why?

Did he say something about your mom?

Or do you suspect he is too influenced by corporations? ;)

[jlake]

17. I suspect that he is a dangerous man - and that Democrats

would be idiots for falling for the set up.

[Guaranteed]

18. How?

Where are you coming up with this? I see this from Clinton people all the time. Accusations of this and that and mistrust and all, but I have no idea why.

[dchill]

37. "he is a dangerous man..."

Not like John McCain. Or Bill Clinton.

[jlake]

38. Not like Bill Clinton.

[populistdriven]

109. Is it because he uses those new-fangled electric light things?

[tavalon]

82. Um, I'm uncommitted at this point,

but to say that he is dangerous, shows you to be a person lacking in discernment. Let me give you some examples of dangerous men: George Bush, Poppy Bush, Prescott Bush, Hitler........You get the idea.

Get over your bad self. LOL

[Hill_YesWeWill]

25. "Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic

candidates for political office."

DU rules

[jlake]

27. I am supportive of progressive ideals - I do not feel that Obama supports them.

If he is the nominee, I will no longer be here.

[athena]

41. The Nation supports Obama. And you claim he's not progressive?

Here is a recent Nation editorial, as well as several pro-Obama articles:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080225/editors

This magazine has been critical of the senator from Illinois for his closeness to Wall Street; his unwillingness to lay out an ambitious progressive agenda on healthcare, housing and other domestic policy issues; and for postpartisan rhetoric that seems to ignore the manifest failure of conservatism over these past seven years. But as Christopher Hayes argued in our cover story last week, Obama has also exhibited a more humane and wise approach to foreign policy, opposing the Iraq War while Clinton voted for it, and has been a reliable progressive ally over the course of his career. While his rhetoric about "unity" can be troubling, it also embodies a savvy strategy to redefine the center of American politics and build a coalition by reaching out to independent and Republican voters disgruntled and disgusted with what the Bush era has wrought. Most important, we feel his candidacy, in its demonstrated investment in organizing and grassroots activism as well as his personal appeal, represents the best chance to forge a new progressive majority. For these reasons we support Obama for President.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080218/hayes

The question then becomes this: which of the two Democratic candidates is more likely to bring to fruition a new progressive majority? I believe, passionately and deeply, if occasionally waveringly, that it's Barack Obama.

Here is Katha Pollitt, a well-known feminist, endorsing Obama:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/anotherthing?bid=25&pid=279745

When Obama won Iowa, I was surprised that I was glad. Much as I would love to pull the lever for a woman president -- a pro-choice Democratic woman president, that is --I realized at that moment how deeply unthrilled I was by the prospect of a grim vote-by-vote fight for the 50 percent+1 majority in a campaign that would rehearse all the old, (yes, mostly bogus or exaggerated) scandals and maybe turn up some new ones too. I wasn't delighted to think success would mean four more years of Bill Clinton either, or might come at the price of downticket losses, as many red-state Democrats fear. Democrats have nominated plenty of dutiful public servants over the years -- Humphrey, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry . They have always lost (or in Gore's case, not won by enough to not lose). Obama may not be as progressive as we wish over here at The Nation-- and maybe someday we can have a serious conversation about why Edwards' economic populism, promoted for years by important voices at the magazine, was such a bust. But Obama is a candidate in a different mold. He's a natural politician who connects with people as Hillary Clinton, for whatever reason, just doesn't, and appeals to the better angels of their nature. He sparks an enthusiasm in people--independents, the young, the previously disengaged. An Obama victory could have big positive repercussions for progressive politics.

And here is Frank Rich, another progressive, supporting Obama:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10rich.html?ref=opinion

When people who claim to be progressives are so vehemently against Obama, I really wonder what their real reasons are. I don't support Clinton, but that's only because I think Obama will finally end 50%+1 politics that's left the country at an impasse for so long. I am not dead set against Clinton the way so many Clinton supporters are against Obama.

[jlake]

42. Sorry. Obama already threw me under the bus.

I have no reason to believe in him or think that he is any better than Bush on GLBT issues.
And since his actions don't match his words on that issue - I can't believe a god damned thing he says.
And I also have a hard time believing that Obama can win the GE - let alone by a large margin.

[athena]

44. Good luck

finding a candidate who is openly for gay marriage and has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general election.

Take a look at this in the meantime:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/30/105549/167/289/446168

[jlake]

47. I don't need them to support gay marriage

I just don't want my candidate to give the stage to someone so that he can say that I am trying to kill children and am the cause of all of the world's problems.

Big difference.

[RaleighNCDUer]

56. Well, you can always go join the Log Cabin Republicans.

You won't find anyone on that side of the aisle who is bigoted against gays.

[jlake]

57. So that's your only defense - that the Republicans don't have anything to offer either

My how far we've fallen.
:(

[RaleighNCDUer]

62. Hey, YOU'RE the one who said he was leaving.

And particularly over a bullshit position.

You know full well that Obama is committed to full equality for gays. His record is more stellar than Hillary's - he wants to completely overturn DOMA while Hillary would only change part of it (wants to preserve part of Bill's legacy, I guess). And BOTH have identical positions on marriage and civil unions.

But oooh, he knows a bigot.

Do you really think there are NO bigots backing Hillary?

[jlake]

63. No, I don't know that Obama is commited to anything.

He sure doesn't show it. Do you know what it feels like to be slapped in the face by your own party and then told "where are you going to go - they're no better"? :(

[RaleighNCDUer]

66. In that case, you are talking out your butt because he has made

several statements on the subject.

And yes, I'm a progressive liberal socialist atheist, forced to back DLC blue dogs because "where else are you going to go?"

So don't pull a pity party on me - I've been voting for bad democrats for 35 years.

[jlake]

68. But his statements don't match his actions.

Why can't you see that?

[primavera]

123. And Hillary's do?

The distinguished Senator who claims to support civil liberties and votes for the Patriot Act? Who decries the war in Iraq and claims to support our troops but keeps giving George Bush blank checks to keep them in harm's way, fighting an illegal war and killing innocent civilians? Who describes herself as a champion of the people, yet is a key member of the Democratic Leadership Council, which sells access to the highest corporate bidder? Who talks about universal health care, but proposes to pay for it by garnishing the wages of anyone who refuses to pay the exorbitant premiums set by her corporate campaign contributors in the insurance industry? Where is this morass do you perceive any consistency between her words and her actions?

I don't mean to belittle your concern about any such duplicity on Obama's part, it's reprehensible no matter who does it. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the discrepancy between his words and actions to which you refer on GLBT issues, so can't comment other than to say that, if, in fact, there's a disconnect between his words and actions on this topic, I share your outrage. But to support Hillary as a better alternative, as if she was some sort of model of integrity and consistency? It just mystifies me. I understand people who support Hillary because they perceive her to be the more seasoned political street fighter, who can get things done and win battles, and I think that's a really legitimate reason to support her: the one thing that has been consistent in Hillary's record has been her willingness to do anything to survive political fights. But where do you get the impression that she's some fount of integrity? :shrug:

[Sapphocrat]

59. And yet another...

"Who ya gonna vote for, the Republicans"? slap in the face.

Do you have even the slightest clue how hurtful that is?

Do you have any idea how many times we've heard it?

Can you possibly get out of your own privileged skin long enough to hear what you're saying; i.e. "Nyeah, nyeah! We have you by the balls! You're gonna vote our way, and take the crumbs we throw you, and you can't do a goddamned thing about it! Nyeah, nyeah!"

That is how it sounds. Every damned time somebody says it.

[RaleighNCDUer]

64. As a progressive liberal, yes, I've heard it every election, when

I'm told to shut up and vote for DLC and blue dog democrats because where else is a socialist atheist going to go anyway?

By the way, that's YOUR faction, the Hillary DLC vote for the war democrats.

I know EXACTLY how that feels.

And I wonder WHY would you vote for the wing that gave us DOMA? Why vote for those who inflicted DADT on us? Hillary talks the good game now, while playing the progressive, but if she gets the nomination she will AGAIN throw gays under the bus as she triangulates to draw in the independents and 'family values' voters. She's well on her way now, with her pledge to 'fix' DADT (rather than abolish it) and to eliminate 1/2 of DOMA (unlike Obama who would end it COMPLETELY).

If you are a single issue voter, you have picked the wrong horse.

[jlake]

67. Not the same thing at all - you have no idea what it is like to be marginalized by

society.
I am not a one issue voter - I do not like anything about Obama - and the hypocrisy of him claiming to support GLBT rights while handing the stage over to McClurkin demonstrates why I cannot trust him and do not like him.

[Usrename]

108. Of all the reasons, that I know about, for not supporting Obama...

this McClurkin thing seems to be the least consequential to me.

Having been born in the segregated South, and having grown up with a whole bunch of bigotted friends and family members, it really is difficult to understand what all the vitriol and hatred over this one event is all about. I put it all on about the same level as a bunch of NASCAR fans refusing to ever go to another race because they let Melissa Etheridge sing the national anthem. It just seems foolish. Pretty damn foolish.

There are some other aspects of Obama's behavior that seem a lot more significant than this stuff.

[jlake]

113. "this McClurkin thing" How fucking condescending.

Thanks. I'll just stay in the back of the bus and be thankful I'm allowed to live.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Usrename]

115. Sorry about that. I didn't know.

What's condescending about saying this McClurkin thing? Are McClurkin bruhaha or McClurkin debacle any better, or should we just avoid discussing it altogether?

[Sapphocrat]

112. Then if you KNOW how hurtful it is...

...why do you say it?

Oh, and nice move yanking this subthread off-topic into a completely irrelevant tangent by calling me a DLC warmonger. :eyes: I've explained my reasoning ad nauseam -- and to do it again is pointless, as it appears I'm just your most convenient whipping post at the moment.

Don't tell me about atheists, socialist or otherwise -- I'm marrying one. What blows me away is how any true atheist would be willing to hand this country over to a man whose campaign is nothing less than faith-based! How any atheist could get sucked in by this traveling tent revival, with its promises that everything's going to be all right if you just hope hard enough, and believe...!

You can apologize for the "Whatcha gonna do, vote Republican?" slap any time. That's what I jumped on you about, and you know it -- and you know it was a low blow.

[NMMNG]

60. And another privileged voice tells us

"Just keep taking it up the ass because you ain't gonna get it any better from the other guys."

Thank you, your concern is duly noted. :sarcasm:

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

54. Gore recently came out for gay marriage, and I don't think that would've stopped him from winning

I'm not saying most presidential candidates could get away with being pro gay marriage, but he could've. He could've brought a solid, unapologetic progressive agenda into the White House, with his popularity and with the Repugs so weak this year. It's a real shame he didn't run.

[Alexander]

46. Great! Then you'll leave DU and stop spamming these boards.

[jlake]

50. That's right. - except that I don't "spam" the boards.

I will be very busy campaigning.

[NMMNG]

61. Oh, if it isn't Obama's self-proclaimed board cop.

Fuck off. You don't run DU.

[joshcryer]

15. Does "switching" because I am certain my candidate will lose count?

[Guaranteed]

16. Count as what? Switching?

Yeah, that's switching.

[joshcryer]

48. Well I'm still supporting said candidate, I just don't see them winning, thus I expect to support...

...Obama as our almost guaranteed nominee.

[Sapphocrat]

19. I would say...

...I'd rather jam flaming hot pokers through my skull, but I don't want to be trampled by the rush of Obama supporters volunteering to do it for me.

[NMMNG]

73. There's one right up thread who would love to have the honor

Obama's SS and shit. :eyes:

[jillan]

21. nope.

[Metric System]

22. NEVER!

Maybe not even if he gets the nomination. There have been so many posts here that have been pissing me off today that I am completely souring against him and his supporters.

[rjx]

69. Then leave the democratic party!!!

[jannyk]

71. With its move to the right, it's the Dem Party that left us!!! eom

[Hill_YesWeWill]

23. uhhh, well, you know, a vote for a Dem is a vote for a Dem, either way right? ;)

I haven't switched to Obama yet, Ive been pro Clinton for quite a while, but I do like Obama a lot, I guess almost as much, he's just different, but not in a bad way, I can understand why he brings in so many new voters, and I do think that is a great thing for the democratic party!

[Guaranteed]

24. Hey! Awesome.

Come on in, the water's warm! :)

[KAZ]

106. Glad you're here Hill_YesWeWill.

And this Obama supporter will happily work for Clinton in the GE, should she win the nomination.

[LowerManhattanite]

28. And whether one's an Obama supporter Or a Hillary backer...

...a post like this is an unneccesary rub of salt in a wound inflicted by last night's numbers.

An gratuitous nut-kick. Less than cool. :(

[Guaranteed]

29. Yeah, us cult members like to go for the nuts. nt

[LowerManhattanite]

36. And mind you...

...I'm certainly not a Hillary Clinton backer, and am not a hard-core Obana fan either.

I just think that...based on the way the wind seems to be blowin', anything that scans as gloating is kind of rough right now.

The board is getting fairly incendiary with folks tossing likening candidates to Hitler and Jim Jones and whatnot. There's a lot of frustration and harsh words. I guess I wanna see a little less of it is all.

Wasn't rippin' you or anything like that.

[Sapphocrat]

30. Funny, but I was thinking of the OP when I wrote:

"...if Obama wins the nom, his most rabid supporters will be grinding our faces in the dirt until they strip the flesh from our bones like bark off a tree -- and only after what's left resembles raw hamburger will they start rubbing the salt in."

[Guaranteed]

31. Well, what else would you expect from those who would sacrifice

their own children for Obama?

I mean, come on. Stripping flesh from someone's skull is nothing. Been there, done that.

[Sapphocrat]

32. It wouldn't surprise me. n/t

[Guaranteed]

34. Makes for good BBQ. nt

[AGirl]

33. maybe...

never.

[juajen]

35. I refuse to answer that question. It's none of your business.

[Adelante]

80. That's the right answer nt

[rodeodance]

125. Bingo

[Imagevision]

39. As the saying goes; "people are like sheep" it's only a matter of time before more of the masses

awake... The American people I think, should be grateful that they have a Barack Obama!

[Enrique]

40. I go back and foith

they're pretty similar, imo.

[Qanisqineq]

43. no

I'll vote for him in the GE if he's the nominee, but I'll probably never be what you'd call a supporter.

[1awake]

49. This is kind of interesting..

I count 9 people so far if I'm not wrong who would, by action or lack there of, allow the republicans to win for another 4 years. I suppose they have their reasons and can justify these choices internally. But I would have to say, it's really ironic to me.. someone who has only been in the Democratic party for a matter of months, seems to have more loyalty to the parties ideals than any of you. Not everyone in the other camp hates you, makes fun of you, or doesn't care about your concerns. I'll stop here on this before I say something I do not mean, because theres two or three of you I already respect.

And for you Obama supporters who have made these peoples lives a living hell on these boards. Do a simple examination of the pages in this section. There are several attacks on Obama and his supporters, but there is like.. what.. 8 times as many making fun of / jabbing innuendos at Hillary supporters, some of which would make freepers blush with envy. And for what?.. Shits and giggles?



to someone specifically... you did not waste your time.

(to be clear, I support Obama)

[grizmaster]

52. Give me a convincing argument based on Obama's actual accomplishments

and I'll consider switching right now.

I'm convinced everybody is enamoured with his charm and rhetoric, but in the real world neither has any value UNLESS it leads to actual accomplishment.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

53. I'll take a sip of his kool-aid and see how it tastes if Hillary loses the nod

But not before she's for sure out of the picture. I'd like to believe Obama is a brilliantly disguised Trojan Horse, who will be a decidedly liberal president. If he's our nominee, I'll keep my fingers crossed that it will be the case.

[1awake]

55. You should support her

until its clear of course. BUt so ya know.. the kool-aid is not bad.. alittle bit sugary though. And I promise to to take a sip..err..bite of.. whatever Hillary people are having should she win. I wonder what Hillary would have.. hmmm

[NMMNG]

58. I wasn't considering switching from Kucinich to Obama

I wasn't considering switching from Edwards to Obama
I'm not considering switching from Clinton to Obama

That's a "no".

[VotesForWomen]

65. what makes you think we would? nt

[CalGator]

70. All of us Dems will come to our senses

Just as the racist, anti-immigration Reprobes will vote for the 100 Years War part 2 of John McCain, the equal opportunity democrats will vote for Hillary or Barack. There is a vast difference between the two parties--more than there has been in the past 30 years. As an Obama supporter, it will hurt to have Hillary as the nominee. But Hillary is far better than John "let's build bases in Iraq" McCain or Mike "F* the Constitution. God is the constitution" Huckabee. There are small differences between us Democrats. But there are fissures in the differences between us and the Republicans when it comes to health care, Iraq, choice, the environment, stem cell research, etc.

[Andromeda]

72. When hell freezes over.

.

[Andromeda]

74. Obama is a pretender.

He speaks and people think he's the messiah. He's the Pied Piper and Elmer Gantry, not JFK and MLK.

Power will corrupt him and it's the country that will suffer for it.

I wonder how people can be so gullible but I will never get an answer because the people under his "spell" aren't even aware that they are.

Young people are more easily led by someone like Obama. He's a rock star, a phenomenum---a bright star that dazzles.

When reality settles in and the people who voted for him wait for what he has promised, they will have a long wait.

[flordehinojos]

75. obama can discount my vote for him in the general elections. he simply won't have it. i won't vote.

not for this new fabrication of the poppy bush machinery.

[Perry Logan]

78. Looks like a resounding "Fuck no!"

[cooolandrew]

79. All former Clinton supporters welcome with warm loving arms. Make yourself at home with team Obama.

\:)/ We're not the mysogynist cult worshippers we're made out to be we're really not.

[rodeodance]

128. No to the ObamaCryBabies!!

[anamnua]

83. No nt.

[guruoo]

84. I'll support him if he is the Democratic nominee, even though

I consider what some some of his supporters have done to the Clintons
to be unforgivable.

[shayes51]

85. no

[terrya]

86. If Obama becomes the nominee....I'll switch in a heartbeat.

:-)

[calico1]

90. If Rev. Obama becomes the nominee

I will probably vote for him. But hold my nose while doing it. I don't like the man. I think he is super cocky, arrogant and he doesn't inspire me one bit.

However, I am concerned about the future of the Supreme Court. For that one reason only I will probably vote for your guy. But don't mistake that for support.

[rodeodance]

92. I am looking to the day when each will be LIMITED to 3 posts/day

[aquarius dawning]

93. No way. It's not over until it's over and it ain't over by a long shot. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

94. Ask A Stupid Question ...Get A Stupid Answer

I would rather be reamed by Ron Jeremy and Lexington Steele without lube and without a condom than abandon Hillary...

I'm with her "until the last dog dies."

[indimuse]

95. NO! But can you tell me anymore about Sinclare>>>?

When is the MSM going to expose the TRUTH about ALL of Obama's Mis-Deeds!!!??

[demo dutch]

96. I'll say it again-I'm Sick of men running this country!!!

[aquarius dawning]

98. I think women have been oppressed to a far greater degree than African Americans

and I seriously would like to see them have a champion in Hillary. That's mainly why I support her actually. I think a Hillary Presidency would do wonders to undermine the status quo of more than a few of our least favorite countries as well. She would give hope to women who are stoned to death for the crime of being gang raped or who are drowned in bathtubs for even being born. that's the kind of hope I'm voting for.

[demo dutch]

129. That's right, there'e a gender problem in this country, not a racial problem!

[Bluenorthwest]

99. In the general

I'll vote for the nominee. Now in a typical election year I volunteer and donate and do all that stuff. Obama will get my vote in that I will vote against the GOP. It will not be a vote for him. The McClurkin events and his code speak about my family give me a chill down the spine. Voting for him will be an act of Party loyalty, after Bush there is no choice, but in the upcoming years I will be looking for alternative ways of being active, local level or State. The DNC with its place at the table for gay baiting evangelists is moving away from me, not the other way around.
The sermon about God delivering gay people from ourselves at an official DNC event is not something I will soon forget. I'll be voting brand D but I sure will feel like I'm doing the Party a favor and my own family potential harm. It will not come easy and it will not be something I feel good about at all.
Primary vote, no way Obama with all of this stuff hanging there. I'll skip it first, just like I'm skipping the donating and all. Vote yes. Support no. General yes, primary...he could win my vote but he will not as his heart is clearly with the last century and he is not nearly brave enough to stand up to the McClurkins of this world.
And then there is his Patriot Act vote, the vote against Uniting American Families, for the Energy Bill and all of that. They are very much the same, except Obama comes with McClurkin and Caldwell and all of that. Throws the balance strongly to Clinton.

[foerschie]

100. I will support the Dem nominee regardless of whom it is.

[Guaranteed]

111. Kick!

Fair enough.

[Mags]

101. Never

[MoonRiver]

102. Nope. Still don't like him.

Matter of fact the more I see the less I like. There's a real chance I'll just be too "busy" to make it to the polls next November, IF he is the nominee.

[TriMetFan]

103. Nope! I will not drink the

kool-aide. As a matter of fact my spouse who had been saying that if Obama ended up being our Nom. she would vote for him, is now having a had time liking him at all. We think he is more of a teflon man then Reagan and way slicker then Bill.

[BlackVelvet04]

105. here's an answer

Obama

[Clintonista2]

107. No way.

[Faygo Kid]

110. Gee the previous five posters all gathered in one place. Exciting.

You guys all live together or something? The most hard-core Obama haters on DU posting one right after another.

Kind of exciting.

[Penndems]

114. NO-bama - and I'll give you four good reasons why:

1. The man is promising TOO much. How will he balance the budget when he's promising to federalize education, health care and proposes a middle-class tax cut? We're already nine trillion dollars in the hole - Senator Obama would drive us further into debt!

2. Senator Clinton has the upper hand when it comes to foreign policy experience.

3. He wants to get us out of Iraq within sixteen months, which is way too long. We should be out within six.

4. Senator Obama told The Baltimore Sun that he would make across-the-board cuts in Federal agencies - including our space exploration programs - to pay for teacher incentives: Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4239228

[dwelleronthreshold]

116. Nope. And if Hill drops out, I'm voting for McCain.

[goldcanyonaz]

118. No! Can I get my goody bag now?

[theHandpuppet]

119. No

And a week won't matter.

[TankLV]

120. nope.

thinking of staying home on election day if he's the nomineek, tho...that's for sure...

[robbedvoter]

121. YES! PRAISE THE LORD! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!! ..Oh, wait, it was an ambulance

outside...nevermind...

I guess I need to go back to my ordinary womanly life...

[hell-bent]

122. No, and he is not going

to win the nomination. There are some big states coming up like Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. If Obama is the nominee,he will not win those mostly Red states that he won in the caucuses. Sadly to say, the U.S. electorate will not vote for a inexperienced, Black candidate with a middle name of Hussein in the necessary numbers to win the election. I will vote for Obama with a heavy heart knowing he will not win in the GE. Sorry folks. P.S. Actually, I am hoping for a deadlock, with Gore being our nominee.

[rodeodance]

124. Meet her new campaign manager here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4528912&mesg_id=4528912

[rodeodance]

127. Still dropping lots of POOP!!---new limit should do you good.

[Guaranteed]

130. LOL I voted FOR a three-thread limit- and actually wanted only two.

Which is really all I do in a day.

I just make 'em really GOOD ones....so you notice. ;)

[Autumn]

131. No

and next week, still no.