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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:50 AM
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Here are the numbers which show why Obama will be our nominee
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 05:40 AM by TexasObserver
The following figures were obtained from the New York Times, with the exception of the New Mexico number, which I provided based upon news reports and the current status of the ballots there, which is to say, up in the air while ballot box mishandling is being pursued.

19 Obama Victories with percentage points margin of win over Clinton

82% Virgin Islands
62% Idaho
49% Alaska
48% Kansas
36% Washington
35% Georgia
35% Nebraska
34% Colorado
34% Minnesota
32% Illinois
29% South Carolina
25% North Dakota
22% Louisiana
17% Utah
14% Alabama
11% Delaware
8% Iowa
4% Connecticut
1% Missouri

1 States tied

50% New Mexico

9 Clinton victories in contested state with percentage points margin of win over Obama

43% Arkansas
24% Oklahoma
17% New York
15% Massachusetts
13% Tennessee
10% California
10% New Hampshire
10% New Jersey
8% Arizona
6% Nevada

2 States where Hillary ran in beauty contest with other candidates not campaigning

17% Florida
15% Michigan

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http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/demmap/index.html

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:59 AM
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1. If you were to show projected pledged delegates
based on how you think the future primaries and caucuses will go, I might find your post more valuable.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:02 AM
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3. are you talking about super delegates, or pledged delegates?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:33 AM
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4. well, the answer to your question is ...
... the margin of victory and the trend of the past 26 contests clearly show Obama is destroying Clinton all over America, and since we have an electoral college, winning states matters.

There are numerous delegate counts you can find online. Every outlet spins it the way they choose, and they all have different numbers.

I'm sure you're smart enough to find them.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:01 AM
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2. Here are the next 6 states, over the next ten days, with delegates
Contests over next 10 days

2-10 Maine - Caucus - 34 Delegates
2-12 District of Columbia - Primary - 37 delegates
2-12 Maryland - Primary - 99 delegates
2-12 Virginia - Primary - 101 delegates
2-19 Hawaii - Caucus - 29 delegates
2-19 Wisconsin - Primary - 92 delegates

It's very possible Obama could win every one of these contests. He should win at least 4 of the 6.

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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:38 AM
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5. Don`t forget Virgin Islands...
Obama sweeps in the Virgin Islands


Simon Caines, the executive director of the Democratic Party of the Virgin Islands, shared in a brief interview just now the preliminary results of that territory's caucuses, which produce the equivalent of three delegates.

With all of the votes there in, Caines said, the preliminary count is:

Obama: 1772 votes (89.9%)
Clinton: 149 votes (7.6%)

"We believe Senator Obama will receive all three of our pledged delegates," said Caines.

(He then explained that -- because nothing can be simple -- the territory actually has six delegates, each of whom has half a vote -- so the equivalent of three.)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Obama_sweeps_in_the_Virgin_Islands.html
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:41 AM
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6. Thanks for reminding me. I edited the first post to add it.
I left them out because they weren't on the New York Times chart.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:34 AM
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7. That's very interesting
Thank you for the link. It's interesting to see these numbers. I'm surprised at Arkansas, I would have thought she'd beat him by 50-plus percentage points but she only got 43%.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 AM
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10. The margins Obama is winning by are dramatic margins.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:37 AM
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8. You wouldn't happen to be an Obama booster, would you?
The delegates are being assigned proportionately. State figures are not a good mathematical indicator of ... anything. You may find what you're looking for in the voting district numbers. There's more math to do, but there's also more detail.

And I see you snuck in some misleading spin -- Hillary did not campaign in FL and MI. There's also the matter of a TV ad Obama ran in FL -- it turns out that the "permission" he supposedly got was an opinion from the head of the SC Democratic Party. But as far as I'm concerned, this is a non-issue. If Hillary and/or Obama state otherwise, I'll revisit it.

--p!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:17 AM
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9. And how does your calculation of the superdelegate vote work in here?
Methinks you forgot about the rabble controlling superdelegates, hmmm?

Too much democracy ain't good for the rabble, apparently.

Today I caucused for Obama for the stupidest of reasons - I wanted to make sure I voted against Clinton. But I have no silly delusions that he will be our nominee and I'm quite sure he will take one for the team when the superdelegates explain to him why the anointed must serve. In one years time, we will have Madame President, no matter what you and I want. Mark my words. I said it at the beginning of this godforsaken dog and pony show, and while I forgot during the weeks that Edwards was a possibility, I realized soon after he left that he was there to keep us distracted and not rioting. And the close "race" now is for the same reason. I don't find the game nearly as enjoyable as many here but I don't really begrudge them their fun. I remember how much I was enjoying the idea of Gore becoming our Knight in Shining Armor. I would like to have that feeling of joyous possibility again.

I will vote for Madame President when it is time, like the dutiful little reliable Democrat that I am and she knows it and she doesn't give a damn how much bile I have to choke back. But still, it will be much, much better than the alternative and in my 44 years on this planet, I've come to be rather used to the lesser of two evils. If a third way ever presents itself, I will jump but until then, I am tired and busy trying to stay above the water and just damn tired of trying to be optimistic.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:17 AM
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11. I think you underestimate the super delegates' need for political survival
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:20 AM by TexasObserver
Across the nation, Democratic politicos are seeing the magic of Obama, and the poison of the Clinton campaign. Look at Hillary. Not even she believes she can stop him now.

They will not anoint Hillary. Half of them have despised the Clintons for at least ten years, and are so weary from Clinton fatigue. They're like that one family at the reunion that always ruins every extended family event just by being there and being who they are - drama queens who suck the oxygen out of every room they enter.

I have no doubt that superdelegates will not cut off their political noses to save the Clinton machine one more time. They're sick of it, sick of the Clintons playing victim, of all the negativity the generate, of all the shady personal and business dealings of the Clintons.

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 AM
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12. I'd like to kick this superb response.. kudos again, Texas O !
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:42 AM
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13. Thanks, KG. I felt that many have probably not seen the spreads laid out like this.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:52 PM
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14. They see me rollin ... They hatin
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:57 PM
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15. Not really
Idaho only has 23 delegates. Obama could take all of them and still not overcome a smaller victory in a large state like California. He needs to figure out how to turn white votes in racially mixed states. I think that means talking about problems of the rural poor, which he hasn't really done yet.
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