Michigan election didn't count for ANYTHING.

[mckeown1128]

Obama and Hillary are in agreement.

[mckeown1128]

1. What...no one wants to ask me how i know? nt

[rubberducky]

2. How can all MI delegates be disenfrachised??

Our votes counted for nothing. "the people" did not DO this. What was the point of voting at all?? "The people" were dragged along with the party bosses. Mi is one of the most hard hit economically, yet our votes "did not count". Seems like NOBODY wants to SEE what is going on in MI economics.

[mckeown1128]

3. What do you think the solution should be? nt

[MichiganVote]

4. Oh believe me. Michigan voters will matter.

[rubberducky]

6. Truely, I don`t know ,but MI people didn`t ask for this. The party bosses did.

[MichiganVote]

5. Got that right.

[Barack_America]

10. Why shouldn't the delegates be disenfranchised when the people already have?

Because of the Michigan Democratic Party, the people of Michigan:
-Did not get a chance to learn about the candidates, considering there was no campaigning
-Could not vote for their candidate of choice, unless that happened to be Clinton or Kucinich
-Were told for months that their primary was worthless and, therefore, did not show up

Why should that abysmal turnout pretend to speak for all of Michigan?

[Little Star]

7. Link?

[mckeown1128]

8. Link to what? nt

[tokenlib]

9. We need a make-up caucus...

...where both candidates can compete, where all of us who have pent up frustration can work for our candidates. A fair battle, not the mockery that was dropped on us by the pro-Hillary state officials.

Yes a caucus--the state won't pay for another primary-so it is the only option.

[kennetha]

11. No Way to caucuses!

Caucuses are undemocratic. No way to caucuses, especially not when over 700K already voted in a primary.

[mckeown1128]

12. But, the results are suspect.

Even Hillary admitted that MI wasn't going to count for anything.

Plus, I might add, the exit polling showed that at least 20% of those who voted for Hillary would have voted for Obama if his name was on the ballot.

[kennetha]

13. You just want a caucus cause you think Obama would win

You're not interested in democratic participation. You're interested in a candidate. Caucuses are a lousy way to choose a candidate.

[Tellurian]

14. Where did Hillary say MI wouldn't count for anything?

[mckeown1128]

15. Right here:

NHPR's Laura Knoy: "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, Hey Michigan, I'm off the ballot?"

Hillary Clinton: "Well, you know, It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"



http://www.nhpr.org/node/13858

[Tellurian]

16. What I should listen to an entire Radio Show ...

as your proof when the topics for discussion doesn't include any reference to my statement?

Here are the topics covered at this radio interview with Sen Clinton..(it can be found at the top of the page)

"Senator Hillary Clinton appeared on The Exchange. Comparatively, the New York Democrat has taken more moderate positions on foreign policy, trade, and gay marriage, and is touting her experience as a Senator and former First Lady. We’ll talk with Senator Clinton about Iraq, her newly-released health care plan, and lessons learned in the White House."

Nothing at all about the Florida and Michigan election... Try again..