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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:04 AM
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Rove says Obama is awfully thin on experience and issues on Face the Nation
He goes on to say that he lost a Congressional race in Chicago a few years ago and in his 2 years in the Senate has the most liberal voting record.

The truck is just beginning to back up
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 AM
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1. And I hope we don't let it happen without a good fight. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 AM
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2. Let's all stop being played by right-wing creeps like this guy - NOW. nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:05 AM
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3. Oh my God a Republican is bashing a Democrat. Quick, let's
all try to figure out if it's straightforward, if it's reverse psychology, or if it's double-reverse psychology!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:06 AM
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4. That's pretty rich from Rove, considering he worked for a guy
with the brains of a gnat.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 AM
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6. I will not stand by and let you insult
all the good gnats of this world like that, OC. :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:11 AM
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15. LOL! Hi, Wetzelbill.
Ok, I'll be contrite, and apologize.

Global gnats, I spoke in a cavalier and reckless manner about your collective intelligence and smeared you by comparing you on the food scale to George W. Bush. It was uncalled for and I humbly apologize.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:30 PM
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57. A response from the gnats: Gnattering nabombs of negativity- we
accept your apology.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:10 PM
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61. Thank you and bless you, gracious gnats!
Now go out and buzz your asses off!
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:08 AM
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5. coming from Bush's Brain that's a bold statement
to say about anybody. Bush was a drunk and a life-long failure who never really did anything most of his life. And the stuff that he did was as the emptiest empty suit of all-time. He may have quit drinking but he carried his failure into public office, and instead of doing nothing, he actually did a whole lot of catastrophic damage to our country. So yeah, Karl should STFU.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:09 AM
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7. Rove says?
Rove said GW won fair and square and that Saddam had WMD's too, he'll go after Hillary next.

Did he at least back his own candidate?
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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8. Geez, did he say the sky was blue, and grass is green too?
I'm just wondering why this is even news at all? You mean the republicans are going to pick up Clinton's talking points if they have to campaign against him? Shocking.. i think Obama may already have a few rebuttals for those...
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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9. Who let Rove out of his cage?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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10. does anyone still give a crap what he says?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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11. And Why Does Rove Have Credibility?
The success of cardboard thin *, his ability to give the reins of power to the Cons for the next 20 years, he had the numbers?

He's so irrelevant he's nearly invisible. Why would anyone listen to one word he has to say?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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12. Well gee, I always trust what KKKarl Rove says...
Actually, Obama scares the shit out of the RNC. I know someone who goes to RNC batcave meetings and they are quite perturbed that Hillary and Bill may not be their easy solution to unite their party.

KKKarl will have a hard time holding Johnny McCain't up with the weight of the disastrous Iraq War around his neck. KKKarl knows that McCain't is Bob Dole 2.0.

As for Obama, he has eight years as state Senator and four years as senator. That's four more years of legislative experience than Hillary. Add that Obama is indeed a "liberal" and people are ready for that over some has-been, stale, over-cooked charlaten.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:10 AM
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13. Then the Republicans should be happy to run against him, right?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:16 AM
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28. RepuKKKes are chomping their teeth to tear into the Obama "movement"
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:17 AM by billbuckhead
They've been holding their fire, but the Obama "movement" is such low hanging fruit for them , they just can't resist.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:58 AM
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49. and since it is built on happy day illusions--the Repugs will blow it down like the Wolf
did with the straw house.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:11 AM
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14. Rove is afraid of Obama...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:12 AM
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16. And properly so. If Obama is the nominee, the Democratic star ascends
and shines and the Republican "gains" of recent years, including much of Rove's filthy back-door politics, gets flushed down the tank.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:16 AM
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26. Absolutely. Republicans are realizing they don't know how to fight Obama.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:29 AM
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35. Agree. Hi, Katzenkavalier. Rove can work his dark magic when there's
a still-life set of circumstances. Obama's campaign is fluid and constantly moving. It's not an established order, so Rovian undermining is much less possible.


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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:12 AM
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18. Don't think so
I've come to think that Obama will be shredded in a general election. He'll lose the Reagan democrats to McCain the way he's losing them to Hillary
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:15 AM
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25. Obama will shred McCain in the general
McCain will make Hillary look like a flip-flopper, like a pandered with no principles. "Sen. Clinton, now you are against the war you voted for?"

With that line, McCain wins in November.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:24 AM
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32. Clinton's response: "I am against the war lasting 100 years."
I think Hillary can handle gramps just fine. So can Obama.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:49 AM
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42. the one she voted to authorize.
There is no comparison as to which of the two Democratic candidates hold the high ground on the Iraq issue.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:55 AM
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47. It's Bush's war, and he was reselected in 2004. To the rest if the world,
no one in the U.S. has the "high ground"


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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 AM
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48. So those who voted for it take no responsibility? What a load of crap.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:00 PM
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50. Obama FUNDED the war!!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 PM
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53. It was the best option in a mess Clinton helped get us into.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:02 PM
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52. I didn't say that. I'm saying that we as a country are culpable.
And that is how the world sees us.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:32 PM
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67. hilary didn't stand up to bush..Obama
did..and therein lies the HUGE difference between Obama and hilary.

Viva La Difference!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:14 AM
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22. Uh-huh, they don't want to run against him
especially with the old geezer McLame.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:12 AM
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17. Like W knew anything
Being Governor of Texas is a joke.

Who cares what Rove thinks?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:12 AM
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19. We don't usually Quote KKKarl Rove here.. but I guess now we're grasping at straws. Unbelievable. I
guess the TRUCK has indeed arrived at DU.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:13 AM
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20. Oh, so are we supposed to listen to Rove about who makes a good Democrat?
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:14 AM
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21. well Bush is STILL thin on issues...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:14 AM
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23. The same guy who said Democrats forced the Iraq war?
Or more specifically, Tom Daschle?

Rove has about the same track record as Dick Morris in predicting *anything*.

Rove can't even correctly explain the past.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:14 AM
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24. O Noez!!!
:scared:
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:16 AM
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27. Who gives a sh-- what Karl Rove says. nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 AM
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29. Bush attacked Obama as well. Oh, no. I had no idea they would do this!
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:24 AM by Pirate Smile
"Fox News Sunday: President Bush weighed in on the race defending McCain’s conservative credentials (though said he’s got some convincing to do and he’d be glad to help him do that). Brushed off the issues where the two differ, said have to look at candidate’s principles, “heart.” Slammed Obama on foreign policy, said voters “don’t know what he believes in.” Defended B. Clinton’s campaigning for his wife and campaign tactics. Also had kind words for Huckabee, discussed war, legacy, waterboarding, economy."


Karl and Georgie are going after Obama and defending the Clintons.

I bet Obama just hates that :evilgrin:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 AM
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30. ,,,,,
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 AM by cooolandrew
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:24 AM
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31. F*** R***
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:25 AM
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33. all from the man who gave us G.W. bush;
G.W.'s resume was about as thin as they come. Gov. of Texas ( part time job), never been outside the U.S. ( we bomb anyone who doesn't live like we do in Texas), failed businessman. Ex alcoholic , Military deserter, ..thanks Karl ..now go to Hell !
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:27 AM
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34. Rove is full of shit he isn't the genius they make him out to be in 2006 he said...
I have looked at the numbers for the Senate and Congressional races and I see the republicans winning this midterm election.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:33 AM
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36. He needs to get his own material
Looks like KKKarl Rove is taking a page from the Hillary play book.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:34 AM
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37. Rove should be in an isolation cell in prison somewhere, and unavailable for comment about anything.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:01 PM
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51. but he is not and he will be 'OUT THERE"--whether we like it or not.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:38 PM
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68. He'll be out there being praised by Bill and emulated by Hillary
Days after the 2004 election, at the Clinton library inaugural, Bill pulled Rove aside and said, "Hey, you did a marvelous job, it was just marvelous what you did," Clinton told Rove

Hillary campaign's penchant for Rovian tactics: Robo Calls.
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:35 AM
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38. no experience?! Shit! Where have I heard this before?! This news will end Obama for sure!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:35 AM
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39. why the hell isn't that guy in jail? /nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:46 AM
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40. Why is CBS using Faux Newz pundits now?
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:49 AM
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41. BWA HA HA! Let's all listen to Karl Rove! We know how honest he is!
:rofl:

This is a joke, right?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:50 AM
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43. Obama wins in the primary states
yesterday and face the nation has fucking rove on to give his sewer analysis..
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:51 AM
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44. Man...Hillary supporters are desperate if they are quoting Karl Rove
to discredit Obama. Pathetic. Then again Hillary's strategist is the equivalent to Karl Rove...........
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:53 AM
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45. No surprise. They want to face Hillary. Same stuff we hear from Bill Bennett on CNN
I wonder why?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:53 AM
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46. Calm down
I know he kicked serious fucking ass last night, but that's no reason to panic.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:24 PM
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56. Karl Rove and
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:26 PM by stillcool47
the big bad republicans are coming!! Quick roll over...play dead! Not this time.

edit to add..my new favorite pic...
http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2008/02/10/ap/politics/d8un8rs80.txt



Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., plays with Eric Hansen, 11 months, during

a visit to Nicky's Cruisin' Diner Saturday, Feb. 9, 2008, in Bangor, Me. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)


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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 PM
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54. Yeah, because Rove never lies about anything
Why oh why is anyone listening to that sludge of poo?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:18 PM
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55. WE'RE DOOOOOMED!!!1!!1!!!1ELEVEN
:eyes:
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:31 PM
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58. Rove has a lifelong commitment to progressives and the vibrancy and health of the Democratic Party
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:32 PM by Nailzberg
One can only assume he has good intentions here.

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:32 PM
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59. I couldn't stop laughing at Karl while watching Face the Nation.
I'm like, "Good Gawd this asshole is washed up. And a face for radio, to boot!"

He was hysterical, out of touch, and moronic. If anyone on DU is still afraid of Uncle Karl, they really could stand a reality check. How's that "Permanent Republican Majority" thing working out, for example?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:45 PM
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60. LOL
Karl is a Hillary fan. Who'da thunk it?

Enjoy your shiny RW endorsements, Ms. Clinton.
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Hill_YesWeWill Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:15 PM
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62. NO, I will not take into consideration anything uttered by him, this post is deeply offensive to me
as a democrat, how dare you post any opinion of his.

Even if he is right, I don't want to hear these opinions credited to Him as if he is a credible source of information for our party
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:18 PM
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63. Sounds like Karl's been reading Hillary's talking points. nt
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:30 PM
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64. Rove always gives hints when he has dirt, Congressional election run, hint. .hint. n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:31 PM
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65. Translation: "We don't want to face Obama in the GE".
Don't you people know when Rove speaks, he means the opposite of what he says?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:31 PM
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66. Correct of course.
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