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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:18 AM
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There is one situation in which I will have difficulty voting for the Dem in November.
That is, if the eventual nominee is not the candidate with a plurality of committed delegates. If either of the following occur, this party will not be worth my support:

:bluebox: Obama wins more committed delegates, but Clinton is the nominee.
:bluebox: Clinton wins more committed delegates, but Obama is the nominee.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:21 AM
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1. What if one has more of the popular vote, but doesn't get the nom
Because Super Delegates decide to go with someone else? This scenario lends itself more to helping Clinton get in then Obama.

In that case, I would have a very tough time voting. We all thought it was total shit when it happened in 2000 - but it's OK if Hillary does it? No.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:23 AM
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2. That would suck badly as well.
This year is a mess.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:39 AM
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8. There is no popular vote in the Democratic primaries.
There are many states that use caucus systems to decide their nominee. By definition, there is no popular vote record for these states.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:25 AM
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3. The way I see it:
The rules were laid out before the primaries started. Any change to the rules at this stage of the game will be an affront to the process, and I'll have a serious problem with the DNC.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:27 AM
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5. I agree with that.
Actually I agree with all of the above.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:26 AM
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4. Caucus is also undemocratic.
A whole lot of things about the primary is undemocratic.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:30 AM
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6. Which nobody had a single problem with until Hillary started losing them.
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:15 PM
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14. I've always had a problem with them
I've always had a problem with the whole nomination process. I am still pissed off about last year and Kerry winning the nomination.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:16 PM
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15. I Never Knew Much About Them. I Don't Care Who Wins Them. They Are Completely Unfair.
They should completely be done away with, and I don't see how you could argue against the FL delegates being seated yet claim caucusing is so legitimate. The more I learn about caucusing, the more it boggles my mind that it's part of the process. It's completely illegitimate as a voice of the people in my opinion. In fact, campaigning or not, the voices of the 1.7 million voters in florida would be FAR more legitimate than the voice that's heard through caucusing. Amazing your double standards in my opinion.

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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:40 AM
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9. Looked like democracy at my caucus.
People showed up and voted for their candidates. That's pretty democratic.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 PM
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10. meh if you don't know why its undemocratic, oh well. meh.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:12 PM
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11. I don't know why people voting is undemocratic, no.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:14 PM
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13. okay.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:30 AM
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7. Well if Hillary wins the nomination
You will have an option anyway. Because Bloomberg will run
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:14 PM
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12. Well Then You're A Closed Minded Moron, If That Was The Case.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:16 PM
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16. If that happens, I will remove the "D" from after my name...
But I will still vote for the Dem nominee.

The makeup up of the Supreme Court is more important than this election.
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